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Do you think we exist?
Posted 6/16/11


Or living is little more than pain to some people, so death is a welcome change. But what do the living know about death?

Nothing.

And that answers the question about what we get when the blood ceases to pump in our veins. Instinct tells us to continue existing no matter the situation. Death is to be feared, but the risk of dying in many situations isn't to be completely avoided. Perhaps, we exist to meet the most ideal end possible. An end celebrated by observers of your well-devised life.
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Sonovabitch wrote:



Or living is little more than pain to some people, so death is a welcome change. But what do the living know about death?

Nothing.

And that answers the question about what we get when the blood ceases to pump in our veins. Instinct tells us to continue existing no matter the situation. Death is to be feared, but the risk of dying in many situations isn't to be completely avoided. Perhaps, we exist to meet the most ideal end possible. An end celebrated by observers of your well-devised life.


I don't think we exist to meet the most ideal death. But simply for the sake of procreation and then the evolution of our brain gave us the great or terrible "depending on outlook" gift of being able to make our own reason for living, and fear of death. We do live in a sense, attempting to keep going until we reach an ideal death. As much as it can be.

An ideal death still varies from person to person. Death bed in the hospital is the way to go for some. In your home, or nursery home for others. Or being sliced to death by a sword and killed in combat while fighting valiantly with honor is a good death to some. Even then it isn't always ideal, and it's not always what people get to begin with. My friends grandma died in her late 80's.

Forgot what the medical cause was but she only had a couple days to live because her lungs were slowly filling up with liquid and she would begin to drown to death internally. TERRIBLE pain and suffering. She constantly begged her family and the nurses to let her kill herself. You still can't opt to have assisted suicide in this case. At least not in most places, and so she died as unhappy as you get and in terrible pain.

Although I can't say if it matters or not after the fact, since you are DEAD after all. It almost makes the previous conditions seem meaningless. But it still sits better to want a person to be as comfortable as they can before they die. After all, we observe what is in life, and not what is after it. So we do what we can in the now even if it seems meaningless later.
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underlock wrote:

Nice one opener.

As if mathematicians would think that way.

No matter how small ( 1 out of trillions of quadrillions) the existence, someone who deals with numbers would recognize it.




As a mathematician, i think i would think like that. I don't think that the universe has a finite size, i think it is infinite.
For pure simplification, let say that the earth takes 1 unit of volume of the entire universe. If you take the limit of 1/x has x approaches to infinity, it is 0, not a number close to zero.
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Ah-hah. Whether it is out of consideration or whatnot that each good person is allotted celebrity status when death occurs, there is further still care to be taken of those effected by grief. Life, when observed to be so frail and precious, is invaluable to the living. Therein it further becomes significant. It is as war and peace grant each other so much definition.

I had observed my own grandfather die of Lou Gehrig's Disease. A slow and agonizing death that he experienced over the course of two months made his entire life seem so much more precious to everyone in my family. He was comforted, and like the warrior he always had been, even at death's door, with hardly any breath left in his lungs, he fought to make sure of certain things being taken care of after his passing. It still remains a hard fact for my father to deal with that my grandfather is no longer here to grace us, and it makes matters worse that my own mother is dying of cancer, and my father's mother has Alzheimer's. In this situation, I do my best to keep glued together. There is little other choice.

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Posted 6/16/11 , edited 6/16/11

tgislayer wrote:


underlock wrote:

Nice one opener.

As if mathematicians would think that way.

No matter how small ( 1 out of trillions of quadrillions) the existence, someone who deals with numbers would recognize it.




As a mathematician, i think i would think like that. I don't think that the universe has a finite size, i think it is infinite.
For pure simplification, let say that the earth takes 1 unit of volume of the entire universe. If you take the limit of 1/x has x approaches to infinity, it is 0, not a number close to zero.


What a load of absolute rubbish. If the universe was infinite, that would mean infinite particles. If there were infinite particles, there would be no empty space. Even if it wasn't infinite particles, just infinite space, you're still wrong. The volume would be the same, the container would just be inifinite. Your CR age says you are 19. If this is the truth then at best, you're in your second year at university. It's cute that you think you're already mathematician. You even sound like a pretentious student who learned something new today, and needs to tell the world that you now know more than them about everything.

Back on topic, if we dismiss the foolish notion that an infinite number of atoms are being created from nowhere, then the question could be summarised like this: "Since the volume of the universe is so enormous, would you say that we don't exist, because we only make up a small part of it?"

If you want an accurate answer, then you must account for every particle in the universe, including us. Since we're including ourselves in this calculation, we must exist, or the numbers would not add up.

So yes, if you couldn't tell just by looking around, you exist. However, you are not a mathematician.
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Posted 6/16/11
in my understanding of EXIST .....yeah
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Why yes. How else can you explain the people replying in this post?
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If the universe if infinite (Which it probably isn't), then does anything exist? If the universe never ceases to end then everything in existence is but a speck of dust in comparison, including entire galaxies.
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I'm mindfucked at the thought of us not exsisting
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Franikey wrote:

I'm mindfucked at the thought of us not exsisting


I exist to be with this woman right here.
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What a Silly Question...OF COURSE we Exist, DUH!
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Of course we exist. We're all here, aren't we?
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This is a weird topic. lol
Posted 6/16/11
Here's a tip. Pinch yourself real hard.

Owie! I exist....

Posted 6/16/11

Rina-San wrote:

Here's a tip. Pinch yourself real hard.

Owie! I exist....



That'd be rhetorical though, wouldn't it?
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