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Posted 6/18/11 , edited 6/18/11
I saw something mentioned in another thread about "real" gamers and started thinking more about this gigantic, divisive split in the gaming population. It really smacks of elitism to hear fanboys from every side talking about how they're the "real" gamers this generation, how their system is the only one with any worthwhile titles and how everything else sucks because of the "casuals."

So: real gaming. What does that mean in this day and age? I mean, gaming is everywhere. It's a regular part of my day and a part of everybody else's day. So what marks the difference between a hardcore gamer and a casual gamer? Because from what I'm seeing, the vast majority of these people are all casual gamers. Y'know who's a hardcore gamer?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daigo_Umehara . Not only does he professionally play games, he plays them thoroughly and understands them on a mechanical level. In addition to that, he's really (really, really) good at playing games. Fine, nitpick and point out that I'm making up a list of criteria to define what a hardcore gamer is, but I can honestly admit that these are some damn good points to hold up what truly defines someone in hobby to grace them with a title like "hardcore," as opposed to some exclusive list of games (or systems) that "real" gamers play, and everybody else is just the blind, stupid, easily swayed bourgeoisie.

This is like saying you're a hardcore film buff, and all you watch are Michael Bay movies and summer blockbusters. Sure, sure, all the core gamers talk about how gaming is an art form, but most of the "art" games are ones they've never even touched, like Rez. You'd be amazed how many blank stares I get when I talk about its connection to Child of Eden.

So what do you say when none of you are really hardcore gamers?

Just say you're gamers. It's not gonna kill you to realize that the crazy cat lady who plays Farmville has the same hobby you do when you play some unheard-of doujin fighter that plays like ass.
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Posted 6/19/11
I personally agree. I can't stand the distinction between casual and hardcore that has come about this gen. It's only a way to further divide the community, leading it closer to a crash. A "real" gamer, to me, is just someone who enjoys playing games. Period. And that's all that should matter.
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Posted 6/19/11
Not going to bother reading all of that.

People who only play FPS games like Call of Duty, Halo, and shit like that, I don't consider them real gamers.
Posted 6/19/11 , edited 6/19/11
A bunch of faggots deluded on their skills with a simulated experience. "Real" gamers will never have the respect of decent people, and MUST fucking kill themselves.
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Posted 6/19/11 , edited 6/19/11
Remember, Street Fighter is for posers who don't want to get into a real street fight. XD

Really, the thing with this hobby is that you're playing a video game. You're sitting on your ass in front of your TV or monitor playing make-believe (or standing around waving controllers or your arms).

A really good article: http://artofmanliness.com/2010/04/06/modern-maturity-create-more-consume-less/ explained it this way:


I’ve taken some flack for being too hard on video gamers. In truth, I don’t think there’s anything wrong with playing an occasional video game. The reason I frequently mention video games in connection with the problem of arrested manhood, is not the games themselves, but what they symbolize.

Whereas men once fought as soldiers, they now pretend to be ones. Where men used to play baseball and football, they now control avatars who play for them. Where men used to play an instrument, they now press buttons on a plastic toy. Where we once created, we now consume.


While some people play games professionally (they're supposed to be good at them), the rest of us, well... we play them as entertainment, which is what they're made to be. Not much else, really.
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Posted 6/20/11 , edited 6/20/11

deltaportal wrote:

Not going to bother reading all of that.

People who only play FPS games like Call of Duty, Halo, and shit like that, I don't consider them real gamers.


I'm so tired of hearing FPS gamers thinking that they're the only real gamers out there, most , not all, think that playing any other type of game out there is below them and means you don't have any "skills" to handle an FPS. I used to really love FPS game, but lately they all just look and feel the same to me and I'm sick of war FPS games but they will never go away.....

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Posted 6/20/11
You can switch "FPS" to any single genre, really, and it would hold the same meaning. You just hear it the most from FPS, JRPG, and fighting game fans (which is depressing, because I'm a fighting game fan).
Posted 6/21/11
I don't play very easy or easy difficulties unless I have to, and I'm a completionist and eprfectionist-- that makes me a gamer. Calling someone or yourself a 'real' gamer is just elitism and prejudice. Everyone plays differently and playing a certain genre or sub-genre doesn't make you a 'real' anything, just a gamer.

I don't watch E3, and I only tuned in to watch Skyrim and Dark Souls. That probably doesn't make me a 'real' gamer but I don't particularly care. I take interest in what, unsurprisingly, interests me. Like everyone else.
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I'm a trophy/achievement whore. Whatever that means. I play games actually mostly for story, but if there is trophies for deviating from the story every now and then or playing on the hardest difficulty, I'll do it. Well until I get tired of doing it and start falling asleep, or if the trophy/achievement makes no sense. If there isn't I still may do as many side quest as possible, but still will focus on the stories more. I'm not saying I've perfected every game I've played, only three... wait four (one not trophy enabled) out of maybe around 40ish of this generation... could be more, but I still do try.

I'll honestly say that I'm not a real gamer. Cause I tire way to easily when getting those trophies, and once I start to fall asleep I quit playing it altogether. A true gamer wouldn't quit, lol. I also use my PS3 to watch Anime over the Internet on the TV more then I use it for games now... I play FPS games, JRPGs, and RPGs, only thing I really don't play is sports games.
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Posted 6/21/11
Real gamers: people who devote their life to gaming and have no jobs to go to, darkened room, no life but a virtual life and hold in their pee just to go that extra bit further in the time they could have taken a piss. Sure practice makes perfect, but who cares what some kids online you don't even know think of your skills. Also they are likely to take the piss out of other gamers and gloat at their stupid worthless "success" get a life. I knew this boy who was really smart, but because of World of Warcraft he didn't revise for his exams and failed everything. He's still sitting at his computer right now I bet.

The rest of the gaming population: People who buy games out of their own hard earned cash and look forward to coming home from work to play their game and appreciate every second of gameplay, and want to play to have a good time and relax.
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Posted 6/21/11

A "real" gamer, to me, is just someone who enjoys playing games. Period. And that's all that should matter.


Everyone plays differently and playing a certain genre or sub-genre doesn't make you a 'real' anything, just a gamer.


The rest of the gaming population: People who buy games out of their own hard earned cash and look forward to coming home from work to play their game and appreciate every second of gameplay, and want to play to have a good time and relax.

Thank you, people, you have reaffirmed my faith in the gamer population. I just keep forgetting that vocal idiots are usually the ones heard first, and any more reasonable people usually hang back until they actually feel like saying something.
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Posted 6/21/11
But we do believe that there is and should be a distinction right? I mean, there are Hardcore Gamers and people that call themselves that. It is a real title that can be held. Like Daigo Umehara. He is one of those elite. Those people that make it their business to excel at playing games especially on a technical level. Those are the people that deserve and have earned the title of hardcore gamer.

That said, there are many, many people who use that title even though they haven't earned it. I cannot tell you how many times my brother and many of my friends have wrongfully bestowed themselves with the title of hardcore gamer. And I really don't believe that we should spurn the use of this term due to the foolishness of those "vocal idiots".

Also, I agree with you all that a "real" gamer is one who plays games and enjoys it. And at that point, no one deserves to be demeaned due to their not playing certain games (, like shooters or RPGs).
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Posted 6/21/11
What you're saying is correct, too. Professional gamers or competitive gamers in general (like, say, the entire nation of South Korea) do qualify to be called hardcore gamers.

But let's use me as an example. Yeah, I have a near-encyclopedic knowledge of gaming's history and lore, and it's one of my primary hobbies, but despite the fact that I spend most of my gaming time playing fighting games (or very hard actioners), I just don't dedicate enough time to gaming to make me a "hardcore" gamer. Like you and a couple others have said, "real" gamers are like "real" people--they just exist. There's no difference between your co-worker playing Angry Birds and you power-leveling for a Let's Play of a PS1 JRPG.

Although I will still totally make fun of people who think God of War is the best action game ever. It's just principle at that point.
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i think real gamers should enjoy single player and multiplayer but personally i love single player story modes i think multiplayer isnt nessisary now a days it consumes games instead of compementing them and so i think real gamers should enjoy a good story
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