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End of the internet Bill S.978
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Posted 7/3/11

Assassinx89 wrote:

just so you are aware CR is a legal streaming site that does not upload any content without permission from the copyright holders. that is why people use and pay to use crunchyroll. you do realize there is a difference right? CR is one of the very few legal streaming sites out there.

i honestly wouldn't care if that bill passed since i only use sites like CR, ANN, VIZ, Hulu, Netflix,TheAnimeNetwork, etc... to stream shows "Legally"! however that bill would likely be hard to enforce and is likely just some politicians way to get votes!

Nice try at being smart. why don't you learn a little more about the law, government, and copyrights before you post crap like this!

also about the fast food bill. It is stupid if someone wants to eat fast food let them? I'm pretty sure that goes against "...liberty and the pursuit of happiness" and please if you don't know what I'm quoting pick up a god damn history book!


Chill lol i just wanted to know if it was legal.
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Posted 7/3/11
We got to destroy the government.
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Posted 7/3/11
This bill more like an anti-piracy bill than a bill that will shut down internet. Furthermore, everything here is legit; there's not a single copyright material here that had been illegally uploaded since 2009.
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Posted 7/3/11
No dude, it's basically an intimidation tactic based on a law that already pretty much excist but nobody gives a sh!t for, it's basically pointed towards people who illegally upload Songs, films, fansubs, or footage of stuff they don't own. Basically internet reviewers, critics, commentators and people who make parodies such as YouTube poops are already protected under fair use, but this law might change that and that's what the big fuzz is over.

Crunchyroll can stream already licensed anime, they own it. So can FUNimation, Bandai, Manga and so on.
Posted 7/3/11
I Dont Think America Would Allow Said Bill To Pass. Even if they do manage to pass it do they realise how hard it is to regulate a system where almost everyone is anymous?
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Posted 7/3/11

TriforceDaniel wrote:

No dude, it's basically an intimidation tactic based on a law that already pretty much exist but nobody gives a sh!t for, it's basically pointed towards people who illegally upload Songs, films, fan-subs, or footage of stuff they don't own. Basically internet reviewers, critics, commentators and people who make parodies such as YouTube poops are already protected under fair use, but this law might change that and that's what the big fuzz is over.

Crunchyroll can stream already licensed anime, they own it. So can FUNimation, Bandai, Manga and so on.


fair use is still fair use, i buy something guess what I do whatever I want to with it, but still I am not afraid of this law and even if so I have over 1tb of downloaded anime and 400 gigs of visual novels so I can live with out downloading anymore but not being able to review or simply posting a pic like the one below is bull and would never pass lol.



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Posted 7/3/11
i was worried, then i realized this is an American Bill im safe
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Posted 7/4/11 , edited 7/4/11

fair use is still fair use, i buy something guess what I do whatever I want to with it, but still I am not afraid of this law and even if so I have over 1tb of downloaded anime and 400 gigs of visual novels so I can live with out downloading anymore but not being able to review or simply posting a pic like the one below is bull and would never pass lol.


1) Streaming an entire series does not count as fair use. Fair use for video content is up to 10% (At least it is in the UK and as the USA are both signatories of the berne convention it should be the same)

2) It should be noted that bragging about how much pirated material you possess is an extremely stupid thing to do considering this is a public forum and I would be very surprised if there was not at least one licensor reading this forum who would be rather interested in discussing your pirated material collection further.



I Dont Think America Would Allow Said Bill To Pass. Even if they do manage to pass it do they realise how hard it is to regulate a system where almost everyone is anymous?


Nobody is anonymous on the internet. There are many ways of tracking down people who infringe and many of these methods are already being used (http://www.animenewsnetwork.co.uk/news/2011-01-25/funimation-sues-1337-bittorrent-users-over-one-piece). "It doesnt matter if i break the law because everyone is doing it" is a lame excuse and it hurts producers, especially anime producers, a lot.

Also, you would be surprised what bills pass which shouldnt pass. Countries no longer belong to their residents, they belong to whoever has the most money to lobby (bribe) politicians to vote for their bills. People should be punished for copyright infringement but it should be done as it always has been done in the past -- by the person who's rights have been infringed on and for a sane amount of damages. This is because copyright infringement is a Civil offense, not a Criminal one.
Posted 7/4/11
I've seen a video on Youtube talking about the bill, making it a felony to upload any copyright material. It won't pass, it's a waste of time to try and threaten someone jail time for something like this. Plus, a large number of people on the internet has something that's not theirs. Law enforcements are not going to try and track every single person that obtained copyright content illegally.
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not everything i have is pirated "although I do have some i will not lie about that but not as much as i used to", I have over 500 dvd's and I make my own digital copies/back ups of everything I own I am not that much of moron to say LOLOLOL I be a pirate. When I mean fair use I mean games I buy hard copies of, dvd's blu rays etc. Yes I do agree streaming doesn't fall under those lines due in part it's like cable TV, your paying for a service but you don't own what that service provides. If you want to rerfeer to what I really am backing up go here. Sorry for the misunderstanding.
http://www.crunchyroll.com/editphotoalbum?pa_id=10330645

On subject bills like this are trying to be passed all time and fail ever time, due in part it affects everyone. Not just us average citizens but anyone online period and I don't think government officials are willing to risk their necks for something they might be doing just to satisfy corporate America.
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Posted 7/4/11 , edited 7/4/11
This bill will never make it. It violates the rights of the people whether the material they're after is legal or not. If someone has childporn then take them down hard, but whitewashing the internet is going way too far.
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Posted 7/4/11

valtallica wrote:


SaberUK wrote:


naruto12900 wrote:Bill S.978 is the end of the internet if this pill is passed Crunchyroll will no longer be here


I don't know if you realised but Crunchyroll license the anime they broadcast. That means they have the copyright holders consent.

ITT: People who don't have a clue about law talk about law.

*facepalm*




um...you spelled realized wrong



Actually depends where you live, in the USA "Realized" is the correct spelling, in Europe (the UK at least) we spell it "Realised", my spellchecker likes to remind me of that fact lol
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Posted 7/4/11 , edited 7/4/11
So basically if you are lip singing justin beiber in an apple store you will be fined or sent to prison. If you are posting a video of a talent show and you use a bands music you will be thrown in the slammer or be forced to pay the fine? If your kid is dancing to beyonce and you post it on youtube the same will happen? I'm sure(hopefully) that this bill wasnt intended to affect people in the situations above, buts its worded so broadly that thats whats going to happen.

I honestly dont see this bill going anywhere. Its such a joke
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Posted 7/4/11

SaberUK wrote:

That means they have the copyright holders consent.


Even more than that - they own (certain parts of) the copyright.


valtallica wrote:
um...you spelled realized wrong


I hope you realise that America isn’t the only place where English is spoken. Since you came second I might say that you’re spelling it incorrectly.


SaberUK wrote:

1) Streaming an entire series does not count as fair use. Fair use for video content is up to 10% (At least it is in the UK and as the USA are both signatories of the berne convention it should be the same)


The UK's Fair Dealing law is more restrictive than American Fair Use - it doesn't cover parodies for one thing.
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Posted 7/4/11
This would be a hard PILL to swallow for sure...
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