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End of the internet Bill S.978
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Posted 7/4/11
there has been a SERIOUS lack of attention drawn to key points of this bill. this is the old proposed bill still going through congress to make it a felony to view or stream media without copyright permissions. same as it's always been, just now it's a felony. this will not touch sites like youtube or crunchy as there are methods in place to make sure copyright protection is done properly. silmulcasts through licensed sites are COMPLETELY safe, and youtube, read the EULA you agree to when submitting a video... lol
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Posted 7/5/11 , edited 7/5/11


I think there are more things to worry about than copy-righted materials, this also effects just uploading images which will ruin some, hell i can take a cap of any simulcast at any-time by using the snipping tool in windows vista and seven. Even that would be deemed illegal If i am reading this right.

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Posted 7/5/11
What a crazy hype...

The internet is like a sponge, it absorbs and moves on. Passed or not, the internet will just move on. Its not going to shut down. Sites that show stuff illegally might but they'll just spring up in some new form. Piracy stuff is like weeds. You think you got'em and they pop right back up. So those who'll like to steal anime and what not thru their precious torrents and such will just find another way. Frankly the internet could use some cleaning up.
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Posted 7/5/11
Have you ever considered the probability that a comparative law was already approved in other countries and the internet is still "online"?

Youtube:
Awesome website, we all know - but nowadays it takes me an abnormal amount of time to find a video by popular singers
such as Lady Gaga - why?
Because due to copyright infringement videos containing protected contents are no longer available in my country. I've a few possibilities on
my hands:
1) Searching for a video which hasn't (yet) been removed
2) Changing my proxy server
3) Living without the videos

Private persons who are illegally distributing copyrighted content are prosecuted and face penalties of 5+ years.

But whatever is going to happen, not all contents which are available online are illegal and surely the internet is not going to shut down.
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Posted 7/5/11
But you can find plenty of video of people singing Lady Gaga songs ala karaoke. Of course, those would be deemed illegal, too.
Posted 7/5/11
If this bill were to pass, it have a huge impact on the gaming industries. If you think about it, streaming sites are a good way for game companies (small ones especially) to get good publicity. If youtube wasn't around, then small indie games like minecraft wouldn't be what it is today. This bill will also ruin the lives of video game commentators who depend on youtube to make a living. What would happen to companies like Machinima? It would probably be shut down because a good amount of their content would be affect by this bill. I highly doubt this bill will pass, and even if it did. I'm sure it would probably be abolished like the temperance act.
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Posted 7/5/11
This bill is as stupid as the NFL copyrighting "Superbowl" and you cannot utter those two words on TV or the radio without paying the NFL for it's use. In case you noticed that they only mention "the big game".
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Posted 7/5/11 , edited 7/5/11

SaberUK wrote:


naruto12900 wrote:Bill S.978 is the end of the internet if this pill is passed Crunchyroll will no longer be here


I don't know if you realised but Crunchyroll license the anime they broadcast. That means they have the copyright holders consent.

ITT: People who don't have a clue about law talk about law.

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Thank you. I was just about to say the same heh.


This basically just means you will be in trouble if you go watch anime on something like animefreak. I will miss being able to watch my other sources of anime that aren't on CR if this is passed
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Posted 7/5/11

aznslayer93 wrote:

If this bill were to pass, it have a huge impact on the gaming industries. If you think about it, streaming sites are a good way for game companies (small ones especially) to get good publicity. If youtube wasn't around, then small indie games like minecraft wouldn't be what it is today. This bill will also ruin the lives of video game commentators who depend on youtube to make a living. What would happen to companies like Machinima? It would probably be shut down because a good amount of their content would be affect by this bill. I highly doubt this bill will pass, and even if it did. I'm sure it would probably be abolished like the temperance act.


the creator of minecraft said this about the issue

If the bill passes, I suspect many game companies (including us) will add a special clause to the TOS specifically to allow posting videos of their games. A huge part of why Minecraft has grown so fast is the YouTube community
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Posted 7/5/11

valtallica wrote:


SaberUK wrote:


naruto12900 wrote:Bill S.978 is the end of the internet if this pill is passed Crunchyroll will no longer be here


I don't know if you realised but Crunchyroll license the anime they broadcast. That means they have the copyright holders consent.

ITT: People who don't have a clue about law talk about law.

*facepalm*




um...you spelled realized wrong



Depends on whether you're a yank or a brit with the spelling there, sorry hon. Realised works fine on my PC (thank you opera dictionary). I think its with a Z if you're in the USA or somesuch. But no, fella you're quoting is right...most poeple don't think about the legality of most stuff.
Its true, people who don't have a clue about the law, talk about it. They come in 3 varieties - politicians, lawyers, and the general public
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sipes216 wrote:

there has been a SERIOUS lack of attention drawn to key points of this bill. this is the old proposed bill still going through congress to make it a felony to view or stream media without copyright permissions. same as it's always been, just now it's a felony. this will not touch sites like youtube or crunchy as there are methods in place to make sure copyright protection is done properly. silmulcasts through licensed sites are COMPLETELY safe, and youtube, read the EULA you agree to when submitting a video... lol


We're supposed to READ eulas?! I thought they were table dressing, or an optional hard-drive filler :P.
Seriously though, when was the last time you actually paid a gnats-fart of attention to a eula? They aught to start providing amended/concise versions (like 10 do's and 10 do nots and possible outcomes for being naughty)! But not. further reading is definitely required.
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Posted 7/5/11
I think this might frighten a few sites into banning all traffic coming from the U.S. TorrentSpy did that a while back, while they were still in operation. Big sites like YouTube probably won't even do that, they just might get a bit stricter about enforcing policy. As far as the general public is concerned, I don't think most people will give a damn. Among this community there might be more people who will piss their pants every time they download something illegally though.

As someone who has been through the American justice system, I think I can fairly say this: "up to 5 years in prison" will mean, for a first offense at the least, that you will get a misdemeanor conviction at worst. This is for the average uploader anyway.

My brother got sued by the RIAA for uploading an assload of songs years ago, and since he didn't pay his $6k fine he was supposed to appear in court if he wanted to dispute it. He never did. You know what happened? SQUAT! So they plan to make the penalty more harsh than squat. People are overreacting to this whole thing.
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Posted 7/5/11 , edited 7/5/11

naruto12900 wrote:

Bill S.978 is the end of the internet if this pill is passed Crunchyroll will no longer be here youtube will mostlikly be very dead and the internet will suck read more about it on

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billtext.xpd?bill=s112-978



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Posted 7/29/11
the long versions are much more applicable as they have greater detail that you would need to know. the 10 do and don't method doesn't quite cover exact situations as it would otherwise.

and as mentioned above about the screen-cap. typical copyrights for trailors and fair use would to my knowledge remain the same, so long as it's not from an illegal source.

too many over reacting people in this thread... lol
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Posted 8/14/11

ShinKagato wrote:


valtallica wrote:


SaberUK wrote:


naruto12900 wrote:Bill S.978 is the end of the internet if this pill is passed Crunchyroll will no longer be here


I don't know if you realised but Crunchyroll license the anime they broadcast. That means they have the copyright holders consent.

ITT: People who don't have a clue about law talk about law.

*facepalm*




um...you spelled realized wrong



Actually depends where you live, in the USA "Realized" is the correct spelling, in Europe (the UK at least) we spell it "Realised", my spellchecker likes to remind me of that fact lol




nope...wrong.
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