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Posted 7/9/11

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Here's the thing - there is no set moral code for humans. Some get their moral codes from their religion, but then look at the diversity in that. Some get their moral codes from a set philosophy, but there are many philosophies in this world. Some of us get our moral codes from life experience. Who are you to judge everyone by your one set moral code?

Of course I don't think that anyone is perfect, but I'd argue that most moral codes leave a little bit of leeway for "forgive and forget" and "try to right the wrongs you've made". Everyone has done and will continue to do things that hurt other people (some regret this, others do not). That's simply a facet of human nature. You can dwell on the fact that everyone has their flaws (according to your moral code) and sink in a whirlpool of anger and despair. You can also accept the fact that everyone has flaws (according to your moral code) and move on. Are you going to get hurt by others? Without a doubt. Are you going to see things that are unfair and make you angry? Absolutely. Life's not fair and people are not perfect.


This is only true if you are sophomoric and immature. The true morality is the realization that we are all rejects due to being human, and we will forever descend into a spiral of degeneration.


Sophomoric and immature according to your standards right?
Posted 7/9/11

hikaruandabbey wrote:


Half-Bliss wrote:


hikaruandabbey wrote:

Here's the thing - there is no set moral code for humans. Some get their moral codes from their religion, but then look at the diversity in that. Some get their moral codes from a set philosophy, but there are many philosophies in this world. Some of us get our moral codes from life experience. Who are you to judge everyone by your one set moral code?

Of course I don't think that anyone is perfect, but I'd argue that most moral codes leave a little bit of leeway for "forgive and forget" and "try to right the wrongs you've made". Everyone has done and will continue to do things that hurt other people (some regret this, others do not). That's simply a facet of human nature. You can dwell on the fact that everyone has their flaws (according to your moral code) and sink in a whirlpool of anger and despair. You can also accept the fact that everyone has flaws (according to your moral code) and move on. Are you going to get hurt by others? Without a doubt. Are you going to see things that are unfair and make you angry? Absolutely. Life's not fair and people are not perfect.


This is only true if you are sophomoric and immature. The true morality is the realization that we are all rejects due to being human, and we will forever descend into a spiral of degeneration.


Sophomoric and immature according to your standards right?


Yuh-huh. I think the only way we can be free is if we admit our survival instincts are meant for incest.
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Posted 7/9/11

Half-Bliss wrote:


hikaruandabbey wrote:


Half-Bliss wrote:


hikaruandabbey wrote:

Here's the thing - there is no set moral code for humans. Some get their moral codes from their religion, but then look at the diversity in that. Some get their moral codes from a set philosophy, but there are many philosophies in this world. Some of us get our moral codes from life experience. Who are you to judge everyone by your one set moral code?

Of course I don't think that anyone is perfect, but I'd argue that most moral codes leave a little bit of leeway for "forgive and forget" and "try to right the wrongs you've made". Everyone has done and will continue to do things that hurt other people (some regret this, others do not). That's simply a facet of human nature. You can dwell on the fact that everyone has their flaws (according to your moral code) and sink in a whirlpool of anger and despair. You can also accept the fact that everyone has flaws (according to your moral code) and move on. Are you going to get hurt by others? Without a doubt. Are you going to see things that are unfair and make you angry? Absolutely. Life's not fair and people are not perfect.


This is only true if you are sophomoric and immature. The true morality is the realization that we are all rejects due to being human, and we will forever descend into a spiral of degeneration.


Sophomoric and immature according to your standards right?


Yuh-huh. I think the only way we can be free is if we admit our survival instincts are meant for incest.


LOL. You got me. I will no longer feed the trolls. Take care!

Posted 7/9/11

hikaruandabbey wrote:


Half-Bliss wrote:


hikaruandabbey wrote:


Half-Bliss wrote:


hikaruandabbey wrote:

Here's the thing - there is no set moral code for humans. Some get their moral codes from their religion, but then look at the diversity in that. Some get their moral codes from a set philosophy, but there are many philosophies in this world. Some of us get our moral codes from life experience. Who are you to judge everyone by your one set moral code?

Of course I don't think that anyone is perfect, but I'd argue that most moral codes leave a little bit of leeway for "forgive and forget" and "try to right the wrongs you've made". Everyone has done and will continue to do things that hurt other people (some regret this, others do not). That's simply a facet of human nature. You can dwell on the fact that everyone has their flaws (according to your moral code) and sink in a whirlpool of anger and despair. You can also accept the fact that everyone has flaws (according to your moral code) and move on. Are you going to get hurt by others? Without a doubt. Are you going to see things that are unfair and make you angry? Absolutely. Life's not fair and people are not perfect.


This is only true if you are sophomoric and immature. The true morality is the realization that we are all rejects due to being human, and we will forever descend into a spiral of degeneration.


Sophomoric and immature according to your standards right?


Yuh-huh. I think the only way we can be free is if we admit our survival instincts are meant for incest.


LOL. You got me. I will no longer feed the trolls. Take care!



What are you talking about? We are all related in some way, so it technically is incest whenever humans breed. Genetic diversity and all that.
Posted 7/9/11

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LOL. You got me. I will no longer feed the trolls. Take care!
Anthropologically speaking, he's right, within the context of human migration pattern.

Separate teams of researchers from Stanford and the University of Michigan have found convincing evidence locked inside the human genome that much of the world today is populated by descendants of a small band of migrants who left Africa for the Middle East some 100,000 years ago.

The tale told by DNA - the chain of chemicals that carries information in our genes - was uncovered by new machines that can rapidly scan for subtle differences in the genetic makeup of people living in far-flung parts of the globe.

Earlier genetic studies and paleontologic evidence supported the "Out of Africa" theory of global colonization. The latest genome studies are, by far, the largest and most conclusive on that topic to date.(citation)
Posted 7/16/11
Yes, i suppose. I don't give a fuck though. That's, like...just how humans are.
Some? Most.
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You can call yourself moral or immoral. Good or bad. Truth is, you're neither of these. Every human is a being not conforming absolutely to any morality or immorality. You can speak of yourself acting in a given situation in a certain way, yet you might come to find yourself doing something different, which makes you rather hypocritical.

Even if you proclaim that you don't have your own preset of reactions to scenarios, you still tend to contradict this while denying it. Even doing nothing is making a decision.

Knowing this, we all all equal in one respect.


That is a rather bold pronouncement, and, I am afraid, completely untenable- there is no way to validly prove any of this without the ability to read and experience the minds of other, and any darkness you see is, I think, simply you transplanting your perception of yourself onto everyone else, and then lumping that into the group of humanity. It is folly to think that because you can see evil in your heart, it must exist everywhere and in everyone. While I do not claim that all men are good or all men are evil, or somewhere between the two, you seem to rush into the conclusion that all men are hypocrites- and damn evidence and proof to the devil- then tell everyone that they must be hypocritical if they suppose that man's nature is contrary to your own opinion. We can never be too sure about the nature of man, and, especially, the nature of other, as of current, being creatures limited to our current bounds of what is and is not possible. This may change, this may not, I do not know. But, as we cannot ascertain the nature of others, and, I would think, we are not fully capable of ascertaining our own nature, it is therefore expedient that we live not on good intention, something of which we cannot be completely certain, and, instead, live on good deeds, which has a real effect in the real world.
Posted 7/17/11

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Half-Bliss wrote:

You can call yourself moral or immoral. Good or bad. Truth is, you're neither of these. Every human is a being not conforming absolutely to any morality or immorality. You can speak of yourself acting in a given situation in a certain way, yet you might come to find yourself doing something different, which makes you rather hypocritical.

Even if you proclaim that you don't have your own preset of reactions to scenarios, you still tend to contradict this while denying it. Even doing nothing is making a decision.

Knowing this, we all all equal in one respect.


That is a rather bold pronouncement, and, I am afraid, completely untenable- there is no way to validly prove any of this without the ability to read and experience the minds of other, and any darkness you see is, I think, simply you transplanting your perception of yourself onto everyone else, and then lumping that into the group of humanity. It is folly to think that because you can see evil in your heart, it must exist everywhere and in everyone. While I do not claim that all men are good or all men are evil, or somewhere between the two, you seem to rush into the conclusion that all men are hypocrites- and damn evidence and proof to the devil- then tell everyone that they must be hypocritical if they suppose that man's nature is contrary to your own opinion. We can never be too sure about the nature of man, and, especially, the nature of other, as of current, being creatures limited to our current bounds of what is and is not possible. This may change, this may not, I do not know. But, as we cannot ascertain the nature of others, and, I would think, we are not fully capable of ascertaining our own nature, it is therefore expedient that we live not on good intention, something of which we cannot be completely certain, and, instead, live on good deeds, which has a real effect in the real world.


You accusation makes me laugh. That is also the whole reason why you were put on this Earth for: my personal entertainment.
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Half-Bliss wrote:


longfenglim wrote:


Half-Bliss wrote:

You can call yourself moral or immoral. Good or bad. Truth is, you're neither of these. Every human is a being not conforming absolutely to any morality or immorality. You can speak of yourself acting in a given situation in a certain way, yet you might come to find yourself doing something different, which makes you rather hypocritical.

Even if you proclaim that you don't have your own preset of reactions to scenarios, you still tend to contradict this while denying it. Even doing nothing is making a decision.

Knowing this, we all all equal in one respect.


That is a rather bold pronouncement, and, I am afraid, completely untenable- there is no way to validly prove any of this without the ability to read and experience the minds of other, and any darkness you see is, I think, simply you transplanting your perception of yourself onto everyone else, and then lumping that into the group of humanity. It is folly to think that because you can see evil in your heart, it must exist everywhere and in everyone. While I do not claim that all men are good or all men are evil, or somewhere between the two, you seem to rush into the conclusion that all men are hypocrites- and damn evidence and proof to the devil- then tell everyone that they must be hypocritical if they suppose that man's nature is contrary to your own opinion. We can never be too sure about the nature of man, and, especially, the nature of other, as of current, being creatures limited to our current bounds of what is and is not possible. This may change, this may not, I do not know. But, as we cannot ascertain the nature of others, and, I would think, we are not fully capable of ascertaining our own nature, it is therefore expedient that we live not on good intention, something of which we cannot be completely certain, and, instead, live on good deeds, which has a real effect in the real world.


You accusation makes me laugh. That is also the whole reason why you were put on this Earth for: my personal entertainment.


So, if there is no substance to your response, why, then, respond at all?
Posted 7/17/11

longfenglim wrote:


Half-Bliss wrote:


longfenglim wrote:


Half-Bliss wrote:

You can call yourself moral or immoral. Good or bad. Truth is, you're neither of these. Every human is a being not conforming absolutely to any morality or immorality. You can speak of yourself acting in a given situation in a certain way, yet you might come to find yourself doing something different, which makes you rather hypocritical.

Even if you proclaim that you don't have your own preset of reactions to scenarios, you still tend to contradict this while denying it. Even doing nothing is making a decision.

Knowing this, we all all equal in one respect.


That is a rather bold pronouncement, and, I am afraid, completely untenable- there is no way to validly prove any of this without the ability to read and experience the minds of other, and any darkness you see is, I think, simply you transplanting your perception of yourself onto everyone else, and then lumping that into the group of humanity. It is folly to think that because you can see evil in your heart, it must exist everywhere and in everyone. While I do not claim that all men are good or all men are evil, or somewhere between the two, you seem to rush into the conclusion that all men are hypocrites- and damn evidence and proof to the devil- then tell everyone that they must be hypocritical if they suppose that man's nature is contrary to your own opinion. We can never be too sure about the nature of man, and, especially, the nature of other, as of current, being creatures limited to our current bounds of what is and is not possible. This may change, this may not, I do not know. But, as we cannot ascertain the nature of others, and, I would think, we are not fully capable of ascertaining our own nature, it is therefore expedient that we live not on good intention, something of which we cannot be completely certain, and, instead, live on good deeds, which has a real effect in the real world.


You accusation makes me laugh. That is also the whole reason why you were put on this Earth for: my personal entertainment.


So, if there is no substance to your response, why, then, respond at all?


Because you aren't intelligent enough to fully comprehend anything more that I would have to say.

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Please, I would try my best to understand your superlatively profound logic... the same logic that automatically assumes everyone is a hypocrite without proof or reason. I would love to hear your reasoning behind your dictum, offer proof to contrary to what I have already said, and, in a word, rationalize your reasoning until, at last, I have become so completely confounded that I must but accept your god-like intellectual prowess.
Posted 7/17/11

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Please, I would try my best to understand your superlatively profound logic... the same logic that automatically assumes everyone is a hypocrite without proof or reason.


How defensive of you. Or is it offensive. Maybe, you aren't fully secure in a crushingly wonderful universe that is completely inside of your mind, the mind of all those around you, the minds of gods and beasts, and the fucking sharp pain inside of your feeble brain.
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Well, I assume your intellect must be that of God to know what I am thinking of at the moment, and, as a bonus, you manage to tack on the most profound string of nonsense that I have ever read...I would be much obliged if you would devote your energy, instead, to communicate, either through this forum or telepathically, the reasoning behind your assessment of mankind, and the proofs for your conclusion, which, I would think, would be so unfathomably deep, I would have no choice but to say- 'tis true! 'Tis all true! Every word is true!
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Well, I assume your intellect must be that of God to know what I am thinking of at the moment, and, as a bonus, you manage to tack on the most profound string of nonsense that I have ever read...I would be much obliged if you would devote your energy, instead, to communicate, either through this forum or telepathically, the reasoning behind your assessment of mankind, and the proofs for your conclusion, which, I would think, would be so unfathomably deep, I would have no choice but to say- 'tis true! 'Tis all true! Every word is true!


Because you are weak, and so is everyone else like you.

Dismissed!

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longfenglim wrote:



Well, I assume your intellect must be that of God to know what I am thinking of at the moment, and, as a bonus, you manage to tack on the most profound string of nonsense that I have ever read...I would be much obliged if you would devote your energy, instead, to communicate, either through this forum or telepathically, the reasoning behind your assessment of mankind, and the proofs for your conclusion, which, I would think, would be so unfathomably deep, I would have no choice but to say- 'tis true! 'Tis all true! Every word is true!


Because you are weak, and so is everyone else like you.

Dismissed!

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I say, such profundity indeed. Why, dear sir- I would assume sir, for women, generally, or at least the one I have been around, do not make a habit of producing such wisdom in the manner you have done so- dear sir, I am converted to your beliefs, if only by virtue of your arrogance towards your opponents. Sir, what I should then ask, having been enlightened, is what you mean by 'everyone like you'- everyone like me in what respect- my ethnicity? My gender? My age-group? A combination of the three? Tell me, so that I may know when I am in the company of someone as weak as I.
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