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you don't even know what you're doing is against moral or not.
we don't know whether we should do things morally or not. we want the good things, but in what base do we consider things good?
if there is such thing as moral, consider the moral dilemma, white lie is one of the big thing.
what you're doing is just to satisfy yourself, and to satisfy yourself because you satisfy others.
oh well this is just my one opinion, i have no facts or anything.
But that can also be seen as the most humane thing to do, like telling someone who's dying that they will be reunited with their loved ones.
then in this case telling white lies follows 'moral', although there are times where you tell someone white lie, and when they realize it they think you give them sympathy they don't like.
there are also beliefs/principles to never tell a lie, which means it's against moral of the belief/principle.
anyway i never think of any of this sht in real life. in other words, being hypocrite xD Sounds more like mixed messages if you ask me, because genuine sympathetic understanding isn't white lie. While there are those who would patronize with others, in order for them to form superficial and shallow bonds.
ah i see. but it's just people's own opinions, sometimes they are just being too sensitive.
i hate that. being close to others with such intentions. I think it's more about being so insensitive with their own vulnerabilities, they told white lies of "perfection" and "superiority" just to pretend that they care.
in the case i told you, it is where the person who told the white lie is not wrong (he's only trying to help the other, anyways good intentions), where the person who is told the white lie is the one who misunderstood.
then the paradox of insensitive and sensitive can be said at the same time in this case, where the person who misunderstood is insensitive with their own vulnerabilities, and being sensitive to just point people that they pity the guy.
....i don't know if that makes sense... i was kind of 'bubbly', couldn't write it through sorry. However pity isn't the same as genuine compassion. But compassion, from my vantage point, has a problem. As essential as it is across our traditions, as real as so many of us know it to be in particular lives, the word "compassion" is hollowed out in our culture, and it is suspect in my field of journalism. It's seen as a squishy kumbaya thing. Or it's seen as potentially depressing. Karen Armstrong has told what I think is an iconic story of giving a speech in Holland and, after the fact, the word "compassion" was translated as pity.
Now compassion, when it enters the news, too often comes in the form of feel-good feature pieces or sidebars about heroic people you could never be like or happy endings or examples of self-sacrifice that would seem to be too good to be true most of the time. Our cultural imagination about compassion has been deadened by idealistic images. And so what I'd like to do this morning for the next few minutes is perform a linguistic resurrection. And I hope you'll come with me on my basic premise that words matter, that they shape the way we understand ourselves, the way we interpret the world and the way we treat others.( citation)
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
u guys are hypocrites
its part of being human.
now.
i summarized everything in almost 4 sentences ;D <33333
Well, please define 'hypocrite', provide proof that they are hypocrites, and that hypocrisy is something inherent in the human condition, otherwise, your statement is just as valid as me saying, 'Anyone who isn't a Gooblstooni is a Joosrlsl'.
there you go you just verified my statement <3
and go read OP's statement too while ur at it too will you?
im not about to go read or get to know him to answer exactly how he is one
maybe u can do that since u wanna know so bad
Well, actually, I already had a discussion on that particular subject with the OP- and it is all there for you to see. Now, I don't particularly care if they are hypocrite s and, even if I were, I would never go out of my way to verify their hypocrisy, which is why I refrain from throwing around that word at anyone and everyone, you, on the other hand, are pleased to say that all men are hypocrites, without giving a solid definition of what is and is not hypocrisy and any solid evidence that it is part of 'being human'.
First, let us observe the definition of hypocrisy, as defined by the dictionaries:
hypocrisy- n.
the practice of claiming to have higher standards or more noble beliefs than is the case.
-OED
Hypocrisy- n.
a feigning to be what one is not or to believe what one does not; especially : the false assumption of an appearance of virtue or religion.
-Merriam Webster
Next, let's observe if they fall into this category:
DomFortress, and ginkou-san, as far as I am aware, do not seem to be 'practising the art of claiming to have a higher standard or more noble belief than is the case'- if they were, I wouldn't know, I have not ever met them, nor have I the ability to read minds.
Then, let's try to apply that definition to the whole race of humans:
If DomFortress and Ginkou-san are not hypocrites- at least, cannot be verified to be hypocrites, and they are humans, then, it stand to reason, not every person is a hypocrite, and it is not something inherent in humankind.
Lookit you putting words in my mouth MEN huh? did i ever say that? no i didnt so stfu
the fact they are here showing themselves as NOT hypocrites & then priding themselves in it is evidence enough
and u just contradicted urself dumbass lololol its funny
first its inherent
then its not
make up ur mind will you and go read OP
everyone's been a hypocryite at least once in thier lifes thats MY point
read will you? READ, im not talking about the staged statements here
Peace~
Yes, yes you did say that all men are hypocrites-
u guys are hypocrites
its part of being human.
But, beside that, you still have not offered any proof to your statement, then accuse me of hypocrisy- then you ramble on in some strange, half-formed monstrosity, written with a general indifference to both grammar and spelling, about how everyone has, at least once in their life, been a 'hypocryite'- which is a completely unverified statement, backed by no evidence, meaning your argument holds about as much weight as my previous statement, 'He who is not a Gooblstooni is a Joosrlsl'.
in that case guys not being men but ppl oh wow its like ur protecting dom's virginity or sth
OP said everyones a hypocrite
theyre arguing thier asses off
i just concluded
its general knowledge
and dude u contradicted urself ahahah i pointed it out to you lol dont even start if theres anyone thats rambling nonsense its you & fortress
OMG im NOT a hypocrite
exactly, in differnce, im not making this a priority yknow? ahahah for every action theres a reason right?
My uncle Toby would never offer to answer this by any other kind of argument, than that of whistling half a dozen bars of Lillabullero.—–You must know it was the usual channel thro’ which his passions got vent, when anything shocked or surprised him;—-but especially when any thing, which he deem’d very absurd, was offer’d. 
threw it on the ground in that case guys not being men but ppl oh wow its like ur protecting dom's virginity or sth
OP said everyones a hypocrite
So, what you seem to be saying it that because the OP said thus, therefore, it must be true- I am not quite following you there. Is it true because he said it, or is it that the statement's nature is being true. If it is the latter, than the OP doesn't play into it, because its true-ness exist outside the OP's proclaimation, but, if it is the former, if another OP said something contrary in another post, then the two opposites both are true, but then, that would make two contradictions true, wouldn't it....
theyre arguing thier asses off
I am not a physician, an apotacary, a chemist, or any amongst that trice noble branch of the medical science, but I think that the act of arguing, as in a verbal dispute, would not result in their arses detaching itself from the body.
i just concluded
its general knowledge
Really, first time I heard of it being 'general knowledge'- if it isn't accepted by everyone, it can no longer be considered 'general'- I happen to not accept that, and I know many people profess the same opinion.
and dude u contradicted urself ahahah i pointed it out to you lol
My pride forces to me ask how.
dont even start if theres anyone thats rambling nonsense its you & fortress
OMG im NOT a hypocrite
exactly, in differnce, im not making this a priority yknow? ahahah for every action theres a reason right?
I never said that I am not a hypocrite, I am just saying that you cannot call everyone a hypocrite if there is no proof of its verity. And yes, for every action there is a reason. My reason for even conversing with you with the faint hope that you manage to get some wit about you...what's yours?
while u were disecting my replies i think i meantioned it a couple of times?
go search for it
and ohhhh, poor boys never heard of figurative language
take everything LITERALLY
and then get a bizarre conclusion from it
everyones been a hypocrite at least once in thier life time <3
its natural
now with that said chinese boy please go read my previous comments even better
no i dont find it disturbing at all.
As I said before, no proof= not true.
Also, who said I am Chinese? I'll have you know, I am actually an American...a full, red blooded, true blue, flag waving, Cola drinking American!
Hail Columbia, happy land
Hail ye heroes, heaven born band
Who fought and bled for freedom's cause
Who fought and bled for freedom's cause
and when the storms of war is gone
Enjoyed the peace your valour won!
Let Independence be our boast,
Ever mindful of the cost
Ever grateful for the prize
let it's alter reach the skies!
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You can call yourself moral or immoral. Good or bad. Truth is, you're neither of these. Every human is a being not conforming absolutely to any morality or immorality. You can speak of yourself acting in a given situation in a certain way, yet you might come to find yourself doing something different, which makes you rather hypocritical.
Even if you proclaim that you don't have your own preset of reactions to scenarios, you still tend to contradict this while denying it. Even doing nothing is making a decision.
Knowing this, we all all equal in one respect.
i understood almost none of what u just sed...
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you don't even know what you're doing is against moral or not.
we don't know whether we should do things morally or not. we want the good things, but in what base do we consider things good?
if there is such thing as moral, consider the moral dilemma, white lie is one of the big thing.
what you're doing is just to satisfy yourself, and to satisfy yourself because you satisfy others.
oh well this is just my one opinion, i have no facts or anything.
But that can also be seen as the most humane thing to do, like telling someone who's dying that they will be reunited with their loved ones.
then in this case telling white lies follows 'moral', although there are times where you tell someone white lie, and when they realize it they think you give them sympathy they don't like.
there are also beliefs/principles to never tell a lie, which means it's against moral of the belief/principle.
anyway i never think of any of this sht in real life. in other words, being hypocrite xD Sounds more like mixed messages if you ask me, because genuine sympathetic understanding isn't white lie. While there are those who would patronize with others, in order for them to form superficial and shallow bonds.
ah i see. but it's just people's own opinions, sometimes they are just being too sensitive.
i hate that. being close to others with such intentions. I think it's more about being so insensitive with their own vulnerabilities, they told white lies of "perfection" and "superiority" just to pretend that they care.
in the case i told you, it is where the person who told the white lie is not wrong (he's only trying to help the other, anyways good intentions), where the person who is told the white lie is the one who misunderstood.
then the paradox of insensitive and sensitive can be said at the same time in this case, where the person who misunderstood is insensitive with their own vulnerabilities, and being sensitive to just point people that they pity the guy.
....i don't know if that makes sense... i was kind of 'bubbly', couldn't write it through sorry. However pity isn't the same as genuine compassion. But compassion, from my vantage point, has a problem. As essential as it is across our traditions, as real as so many of us know it to be in particular lives, the word "compassion" is hollowed out in our culture, and it is suspect in my field of journalism. It's seen as a squishy kumbaya thing. Or it's seen as potentially depressing. Karen Armstrong has told what I think is an iconic story of giving a speech in Holland and, after the fact, the word "compassion" was translated as pity.
Now compassion, when it enters the news, too often comes in the form of feel-good feature pieces or sidebars about heroic people you could never be like or happy endings or examples of self-sacrifice that would seem to be too good to be true most of the time. Our cultural imagination about compassion has been deadened by idealistic images. And so what I'd like to do this morning for the next few minutes is perform a linguistic resurrection. And I hope you'll come with me on my basic premise that words matter, that they shape the way we understand ourselves, the way we interpret the world and the way we treat others.( citation)
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
u guys are hypocrites
its part of being human.
now.
i summarized everything in almost 4 sentences ;D <33333
Well, please define 'hypocrite', provide proof that they are hypocrites, and that hypocrisy is something inherent in the human condition, otherwise, your statement is just as valid as me saying, 'Anyone who isn't a Gooblstooni is a Joosrlsl'.
there you go you just verified my statement <3
and go read OP's statement too while ur at it too will you?
im not about to go read or get to know him to answer exactly how he is one
maybe u can do that since u wanna know so bad
Well, actually, I already had a discussion on that particular subject with the OP- and it is all there for you to see. Now, I don't particularly care if they are hypocrite s and, even if I were, I would never go out of my way to verify their hypocrisy, which is why I refrain from throwing around that word at anyone and everyone, you, on the other hand, are pleased to say that all men are hypocrites, without giving a solid definition of what is and is not hypocrisy and any solid evidence that it is part of 'being human'.
First, let us observe the definition of hypocrisy, as defined by the dictionaries:
hypocrisy- n.
the practice of claiming to have higher standards or more noble beliefs than is the case.
-OED
Hypocrisy- n.
a feigning to be what one is not or to believe what one does not; especially : the false assumption of an appearance of virtue or religion.
-Merriam Webster
Next, let's observe if they fall into this category:
DomFortress, and ginkou-san, as far as I am aware, do not seem to be 'practising the art of claiming to have a higher standard or more noble belief than is the case'- if they were, I wouldn't know, I have not ever met them, nor have I the ability to read minds.
Then, let's try to apply that definition to the whole race of humans:
If DomFortress and Ginkou-san are not hypocrites- at least, cannot be verified to be hypocrites, and they are humans, then, it stand to reason, not every person is a hypocrite, and it is not something inherent in humankind.
Lookit you putting words in my mouth MEN huh? did i ever say that? no i didnt so stfu
the fact they are here showing themselves as NOT hypocrites & then priding themselves in it is evidence enough
and u just contradicted urself dumbass lololol its funny
first its inherent
then its not
make up ur mind will you and go read OP
everyone's been a hypocryite at least once in thier lifes thats MY point
read will you? READ, im not talking about the staged statements here
Peace~
i did say im a hypocrite as im writing these posts, however what im writing is just my opinion based on my logic, my way of thinking =S
im not pointing at certain anyone whether they are hypocrites or not, if you'd read my posts.
if you don't agree with our posts (what you did in the first place) if you'd please verify your points, how our posts make you think that we're hypocrites, just through our words. what did you see in our opinions that makes you think that we're hypocrites?
cmon would u read that?
no.
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you don't even know what you're doing is against moral or not.
we don't know whether we should do things morally or not. we want the good things, but in what base do we consider things good?
if there is such thing as moral, consider the moral dilemma, white lie is one of the big thing.
what you're doing is just to satisfy yourself, and to satisfy yourself because you satisfy others.
oh well this is just my one opinion, i have no facts or anything.
But that can also be seen as the most humane thing to do, like telling someone who's dying that they will be reunited with their loved ones.
then in this case telling white lies follows 'moral', although there are times where you tell someone white lie, and when they realize it they think you give them sympathy they don't like.
there are also beliefs/principles to never tell a lie, which means it's against moral of the belief/principle.
anyway i never think of any of this sht in real life. in other words, being hypocrite xD Sounds more like mixed messages if you ask me, because genuine sympathetic understanding isn't white lie. While there are those who would patronize with others, in order for them to form superficial and shallow bonds.
ah i see. but it's just people's own opinions, sometimes they are just being too sensitive.
i hate that. being close to others with such intentions. I think it's more about being so insensitive with their own vulnerabilities, they told white lies of "perfection" and "superiority" just to pretend that they care.
in the case i told you, it is where the person who told the white lie is not wrong (he's only trying to help the other, anyways good intentions), where the person who is told the white lie is the one who misunderstood.
then the paradox of insensitive and sensitive can be said at the same time in this case, where the person who misunderstood is insensitive with their own vulnerabilities, and being sensitive to just point people that they pity the guy.
....i don't know if that makes sense... i was kind of 'bubbly', couldn't write it through sorry. However pity isn't the same as genuine compassion. But compassion, from my vantage point, has a problem. As essential as it is across our traditions, as real as so many of us know it to be in particular lives, the word "compassion" is hollowed out in our culture, and it is suspect in my field of journalism. It's seen as a squishy kumbaya thing. Or it's seen as potentially depressing. Karen Armstrong has told what I think is an iconic story of giving a speech in Holland and, after the fact, the word "compassion" was translated as pity.
Now compassion, when it enters the news, too often comes in the form of feel-good feature pieces or sidebars about heroic people you could never be like or happy endings or examples of self-sacrifice that would seem to be too good to be true most of the time. Our cultural imagination about compassion has been deadened by idealistic images. And so what I'd like to do this morning for the next few minutes is perform a linguistic resurrection. And I hope you'll come with me on my basic premise that words matter, that they shape the way we understand ourselves, the way we interpret the world and the way we treat others.( citation)
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
u guys are hypocrites
its part of being human.
now.
i summarized everything in almost 4 sentences ;D <33333
Well, please define 'hypocrite', provide proof that they are hypocrites, and that hypocrisy is something inherent in the human condition, otherwise, your statement is just as valid as me saying, 'Anyone who isn't a Gooblstooni is a Joosrlsl'.
there you go you just verified my statement <3
and go read OP's statement too while ur at it too will you?
im not about to go read or get to know him to answer exactly how he is one
maybe u can do that since u wanna know so bad
Well, actually, I already had a discussion on that particular subject with the OP- and it is all there for you to see. Now, I don't particularly care if they are hypocrite s and, even if I were, I would never go out of my way to verify their hypocrisy, which is why I refrain from throwing around that word at anyone and everyone, you, on the other hand, are pleased to say that all men are hypocrites, without giving a solid definition of what is and is not hypocrisy and any solid evidence that it is part of 'being human'.
First, let us observe the definition of hypocrisy, as defined by the dictionaries:
hypocrisy- n.
the practice of claiming to have higher standards or more noble beliefs than is the case.
-OED
Hypocrisy- n.
a feigning to be what one is not or to believe what one does not; especially : the false assumption of an appearance of virtue or religion.
-Merriam Webster
Next, let's observe if they fall into this category:
DomFortress, and ginkou-san, as far as I am aware, do not seem to be 'practising the art of claiming to have a higher standard or more noble belief than is the case'- if they were, I wouldn't know, I have not ever met them, nor have I the ability to read minds.
Then, let's try to apply that definition to the whole race of humans:
If DomFortress and Ginkou-san are not hypocrites- at least, cannot be verified to be hypocrites, and they are humans, then, it stand to reason, not every person is a hypocrite, and it is not something inherent in humankind.
Lookit you putting words in my mouth MEN huh? did i ever say that? no i didnt so stfu
the fact they are here showing themselves as NOT hypocrites & then priding themselves in it is evidence enough
and u just contradicted urself dumbass lololol its funny
first its inherent
then its not
make up ur mind will you and go read OP
everyone's been a hypocryite at least once in thier lifes thats MY point
read will you? READ, im not talking about the staged statements here
Peace~
i did say im a hypocrite as im writing these posts, however what im writing is just my opinion based on my logic, my way of thinking =S
im not pointing at certain anyone whether they are hypocrites or not, if you'd read my posts.
if you don't agree with our posts (what you did in the first place) if you'd please verify your points, how our posts make you think that we're hypocrites, just through our words. what did you see in our opinions that makes you think that we're hypocrites?
i didnt read it & im not about to anyways
cmon would u read that?
no.
sry but im that type of a person who'd read most of posts  cos they r sometimes interesting
same
but
this hardly struck me as intresting
instead i found the logic of it really retarded
its like argueing if humans are greedy or not
Spoiler Alert! Click to show or hide So you're both a hypocrite and a liar. Not to mention a patronizing and condescending narcissist, who failed at perception management. And I can prove it with your own contradicting, vain, and shallow statement.
First, you claimed that you're someone who, in your own words, that doesn't read other people's statement with "i didnt read it & im not about to anyways". Yet as soon as you met with one who claimed she does, you started claiming, again in your own words, that you're the "same" as she is. However you then quickly downplayed the entire thread to, in your own words yet again, "i found the logic of it really retarded". Even though there you were, being a part of this "retarded" argument. What you ended up doing fits this description: hypocrisy- n.
the practice of claiming to have higher standards or more noble beliefs than is the case.
same as in im the type that'll read most posts
but
this didnt even strike me as intresting
looking u getting all excited lol
yes im a hypocrite myself i think we all cleared that ages ago
anything else u wanna say?
and while were at it ill repeat this one last time
my
point
is
everyones a hypocrite
which includes you
problem?
So you admit you are a hypocrite- interesting! Your reasoning, as far as I can make of it, is this, because I am thus, so must everyone else. You have truly enlightened me, sir or madam, with the most profound revelation that I have yet encountered- using this same strain of logic, I can conclude that every man in the world is Chinese because I am Chinese.
Lero Lero, Lilliburlero
Lilliburlero, Bullen na la
Lero Lero, Lilliburlero
Lilliburlero, bullen na la!
did i saaaaay that
lol u said urself its inheret in human nature
if theres anything to conclude from this thread its that u & dom come up with the wierdest ideas
I NEVER SAID THAT
lmfao god wtf are u reading?
and since ur chinese we can all conclude that theres at least 20 other ppl that have the same face as you
you wont be missed <3 same as in im the type that'll read most posts
but
this didnt even strike me as intresting
looking u getting all excited lol
yes im a hypocrite myself i think we all cleared that ages ago
anything else u wanna say?
and while were at it ill repeat this one last time
my
point
is
everyones a hypocrite
which includes you
problem
So, you are now saying that you never wrote this...interesting...I think I will add that I never existed in the first place to this growing list of absurdities, and that you are actually a mushroom in the mighty forests of Utah.
Intresting
that i stare at what u highlighted and dont even get wtf ur talking about lool
yes go get ur head checked please i heard asian ones crash the hardest
Of course you don't- if I were a pettier person, I would disparage your intellect, but I like to think that I am above such trifling silliness.
First you admit to hypocrisy, and then follow it up with the statement 'all men are hypocrites'- almost as if you want us to think the latter follows from the first. If I am suppose to interpret it differently, tell me how to interpret your wisdom, Oh Hermes Trismegistus! that I may worship your profound Esoteric wisdom.
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you don't even know what you're doing is against moral or not.
we don't know whether we should do things morally or not. we want the good things, but in what base do we consider things good?
if there is such thing as moral, consider the moral dilemma, white lie is one of the big thing.
what you're doing is just to satisfy yourself, and to satisfy yourself because you satisfy others.
oh well this is just my one opinion, i have no facts or anything.
But that can also be seen as the most humane thing to do, like telling someone who's dying that they will be reunited with their loved ones.
then in this case telling white lies follows 'moral', although there are times where you tell someone white lie, and when they realize it they think you give them sympathy they don't like.
there are also beliefs/principles to never tell a lie, which means it's against moral of the belief/principle.
anyway i never think of any of this sht in real life. in other words, being hypocrite xD Sounds more like mixed messages if you ask me, because genuine sympathetic understanding isn't white lie. While there are those who would patronize with others, in order for them to form superficial and shallow bonds.
ah i see. but it's just people's own opinions, sometimes they are just being too sensitive.
i hate that. being close to others with such intentions. I think it's more about being so insensitive with their own vulnerabilities, they told white lies of "perfection" and "superiority" just to pretend that they care.
in the case i told you, it is where the person who told the white lie is not wrong (he's only trying to help the other, anyways good intentions), where the person who is told the white lie is the one who misunderstood.
then the paradox of insensitive and sensitive can be said at the same time in this case, where the person who misunderstood is insensitive with their own vulnerabilities, and being sensitive to just point people that they pity the guy.
....i don't know if that makes sense... i was kind of 'bubbly', couldn't write it through sorry. However pity isn't the same as genuine compassion. But compassion, from my vantage point, has a problem. As essential as it is across our traditions, as real as so many of us know it to be in particular lives, the word "compassion" is hollowed out in our culture, and it is suspect in my field of journalism. It's seen as a squishy kumbaya thing. Or it's seen as potentially depressing. Karen Armstrong has told what I think is an iconic story of giving a speech in Holland and, after the fact, the word "compassion" was translated as pity.
Now compassion, when it enters the news, too often comes in the form of feel-good feature pieces or sidebars about heroic people you could never be like or happy endings or examples of self-sacrifice that would seem to be too good to be true most of the time. Our cultural imagination about compassion has been deadened by idealistic images. And so what I'd like to do this morning for the next few minutes is perform a linguistic resurrection. And I hope you'll come with me on my basic premise that words matter, that they shape the way we understand ourselves, the way we interpret the world and the way we treat others.( citation)
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
u guys are hypocrites
its part of being human.
now.
i summarized everything in almost 4 sentences ;D <33333
Well, please define 'hypocrite', provide proof that they are hypocrites, and that hypocrisy is something inherent in the human condition, otherwise, your statement is just as valid as me saying, 'Anyone who isn't a Gooblstooni is a Joosrlsl'.
there you go you just verified my statement <3
and go read OP's statement too while ur at it too will you?
im not about to go read or get to know him to answer exactly how he is one
maybe u can do that since u wanna know so bad
Well, actually, I already had a discussion on that particular subject with the OP- and it is all there for you to see. Now, I don't particularly care if they are hypocrite s and, even if I were, I would never go out of my way to verify their hypocrisy, which is why I refrain from throwing around that word at anyone and everyone, you, on the other hand, are pleased to say that all men are hypocrites, without giving a solid definition of what is and is not hypocrisy and any solid evidence that it is part of 'being human'.
First, let us observe the definition of hypocrisy, as defined by the dictionaries:
hypocrisy- n.
the practice of claiming to have higher standards or more noble beliefs than is the case.
-OED
Hypocrisy- n.
a feigning to be what one is not or to believe what one does not; especially : the false assumption of an appearance of virtue or religion.
-Merriam Webster
Next, let's observe if they fall into this category:
DomFortress, and ginkou-san, as far as I am aware, do not seem to be 'practising the art of claiming to have a higher standard or more noble belief than is the case'- if they were, I wouldn't know, I have not ever met them, nor have I the ability to read minds.
Then, let's try to apply that definition to the whole race of humans:
If DomFortress and Ginkou-san are not hypocrites- at least, cannot be verified to be hypocrites, and they are humans, then, it stand to reason, not every person is a hypocrite, and it is not something inherent in humankind.
Lookit you putting words in my mouth MEN huh? did i ever say that? no i didnt so stfu
the fact they are here showing themselves as NOT hypocrites & then priding themselves in it is evidence enough
and u just contradicted urself dumbass lololol its funny
first its inherent
then its not
make up ur mind will you and go read OP
everyone's been a hypocryite at least once in thier lifes thats MY point
read will you? READ, im not talking about the staged statements here
Peace~
i did say im a hypocrite as im writing these posts, however what im writing is just my opinion based on my logic, my way of thinking =S
im not pointing at certain anyone whether they are hypocrites or not, if you'd read my posts.
if you don't agree with our posts (what you did in the first place) if you'd please verify your points, how our posts make you think that we're hypocrites, just through our words. what did you see in our opinions that makes you think that we're hypocrites?
i didnt read it & im not about to anyways
cmon would u read that?
no.
sry but im that type of a person who'd read most of posts cos they r sometimes interesting
same
but
this hardly struck me as intresting
instead i found the logic of it really retarded
its like argueing if humans are greedy or not
if i were to talk something about 'human nature', humans always want something, either fame or material or knowledge or spiritual stuffs.
what i post here usually kind of side-tracked
but it's fun how you give your opinions and to hear other people's =)
<3 exaclty
and dom over there is getting a boner over misunderstanding my statements
its so wierd seeing what u type highlighted in red
LOL
well don't you think what they highlight in your post is what they're pointing at? they write they words for a focus of the highlighted words. if it is coloured in red, i suppose the person has a strong believe in his/her opinion against the words.
all you have to do is just to justify your points, i believe, to actually get the right words to not get urself back-fired.
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you don't even know what you're doing is against moral or not.
we don't know whether we should do things morally or not. we want the good things, but in what base do we consider things good?
if there is such thing as moral, consider the moral dilemma, white lie is one of the big thing.
what you're doing is just to satisfy yourself, and to satisfy yourself because you satisfy others.
oh well this is just my one opinion, i have no facts or anything.
But that can also be seen as the most humane thing to do, like telling someone who's dying that they will be reunited with their loved ones.
then in this case telling white lies follows 'moral', although there are times where you tell someone white lie, and when they realize it they think you give them sympathy they don't like.
there are also beliefs/principles to never tell a lie, which means it's against moral of the belief/principle.
anyway i never think of any of this sht in real life. in other words, being hypocrite xD Sounds more like mixed messages if you ask me, because genuine sympathetic understanding isn't white lie. While there are those who would patronize with others, in order for them to form superficial and shallow bonds.
ah i see. but it's just people's own opinions, sometimes they are just being too sensitive.
i hate that. being close to others with such intentions. I think it's more about being so insensitive with their own vulnerabilities, they told white lies of "perfection" and "superiority" just to pretend that they care.
in the case i told you, it is where the person who told the white lie is not wrong (he's only trying to help the other, anyways good intentions), where the person who is told the white lie is the one who misunderstood.
then the paradox of insensitive and sensitive can be said at the same time in this case, where the person who misunderstood is insensitive with their own vulnerabilities, and being sensitive to just point people that they pity the guy.
....i don't know if that makes sense... i was kind of 'bubbly', couldn't write it through sorry. However pity isn't the same as genuine compassion. But compassion, from my vantage point, has a problem. As essential as it is across our traditions, as real as so many of us know it to be in particular lives, the word "compassion" is hollowed out in our culture, and it is suspect in my field of journalism. It's seen as a squishy kumbaya thing. Or it's seen as potentially depressing. Karen Armstrong has told what I think is an iconic story of giving a speech in Holland and, after the fact, the word "compassion" was translated as pity.
Now compassion, when it enters the news, too often comes in the form of feel-good feature pieces or sidebars about heroic people you could never be like or happy endings or examples of self-sacrifice that would seem to be too good to be true most of the time. Our cultural imagination about compassion has been deadened by idealistic images. And so what I'd like to do this morning for the next few minutes is perform a linguistic resurrection. And I hope you'll come with me on my basic premise that words matter, that they shape the way we understand ourselves, the way we interpret the world and the way we treat others.( citation)
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
u guys are hypocrites
its part of being human.
now.
i summarized everything in almost 4 sentences ;D <33333
Well, please define 'hypocrite', provide proof that they are hypocrites, and that hypocrisy is something inherent in the human condition, otherwise, your statement is just as valid as me saying, 'Anyone who isn't a Gooblstooni is a Joosrlsl'.
there you go you just verified my statement <3
and go read OP's statement too while ur at it too will you?
im not about to go read or get to know him to answer exactly how he is one
maybe u can do that since u wanna know so bad
Well, actually, I already had a discussion on that particular subject with the OP- and it is all there for you to see. Now, I don't particularly care if they are hypocrite s and, even if I were, I would never go out of my way to verify their hypocrisy, which is why I refrain from throwing around that word at anyone and everyone, you, on the other hand, are pleased to say that all men are hypocrites, without giving a solid definition of what is and is not hypocrisy and any solid evidence that it is part of 'being human'.
First, let us observe the definition of hypocrisy, as defined by the dictionaries:
hypocrisy- n.
the practice of claiming to have higher standards or more noble beliefs than is the case.
-OED
Hypocrisy- n.
a feigning to be what one is not or to believe what one does not; especially : the false assumption of an appearance of virtue or religion.
-Merriam Webster
Next, let's observe if they fall into this category:
DomFortress, and ginkou-san, as far as I am aware, do not seem to be 'practising the art of claiming to have a higher standard or more noble belief than is the case'- if they were, I wouldn't know, I have not ever met them, nor have I the ability to read minds.
Then, let's try to apply that definition to the whole race of humans:
If DomFortress and Ginkou-san are not hypocrites- at least, cannot be verified to be hypocrites, and they are humans, then, it stand to reason, not every person is a hypocrite, and it is not something inherent in humankind.
Lookit you putting words in my mouth MEN huh? did i ever say that? no i didnt so stfu
the fact they are here showing themselves as NOT hypocrites & then priding themselves in it is evidence enough
and u just contradicted urself dumbass lololol its funny
first its inherent
then its not
make up ur mind will you and go read OP
everyone's been a hypocryite at least once in thier lifes thats MY point
read will you? READ, im not talking about the staged statements here
Peace~
i did say im a hypocrite as im writing these posts, however what im writing is just my opinion based on my logic, my way of thinking =S
im not pointing at certain anyone whether they are hypocrites or not, if you'd read my posts.
if you don't agree with our posts (what you did in the first place) if you'd please verify your points, how our posts make you think that we're hypocrites, just through our words. what did you see in our opinions that makes you think that we're hypocrites?
cmon would u read that?
no.
lce_Cubet25 wrote:
ginkou-san wrote:
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lce_Cubet25 wrote:
longfenglim wrote:
lce_Cubet25 wrote:
longfenglim wrote:
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DomFortress wrote:
ginkou-san wrote:
DomFortress wrote:
ginkou-san wrote:
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you don't even know what you're doing is against moral or not.
we don't know whether we should do things morally or not. we want the good things, but in what base do we consider things good?
if there is such thing as moral, consider the moral dilemma, white lie is one of the big thing.
what you're doing is just to satisfy yourself, and to satisfy yourself because you satisfy others.
oh well this is just my one opinion, i have no facts or anything.
But that can also be seen as the most humane thing to do, like telling someone who's dying that they will be reunited with their loved ones.
then in this case telling white lies follows 'moral', although there are times where you tell someone white lie, and when they realize it they think you give them sympathy they don't like.
there are also beliefs/principles to never tell a lie, which means it's against moral of the belief/principle.
anyway i never think of any of this sht in real life. in other words, being hypocrite xD Sounds more like mixed messages if you ask me, because genuine sympathetic understanding isn't white lie. While there are those who would patronize with others, in order for them to form superficial and shallow bonds.
ah i see. but it's just people's own opinions, sometimes they are just being too sensitive.
i hate that. being close to others with such intentions. I think it's more about being so insensitive with their own vulnerabilities, they told white lies of "perfection" and "superiority" just to pretend that they care.
in the case i told you, it is where the person who told the white lie is not wrong (he's only trying to help the other, anyways good intentions), where the person who is told the white lie is the one who misunderstood.
then the paradox of insensitive and sensitive can be said at the same time in this case, where the person who misunderstood is insensitive with their own vulnerabilities, and being sensitive to just point people that they pity the guy.
....i don't know if that makes sense... i was kind of 'bubbly', couldn't write it through sorry. However pity isn't the same as genuine compassion. But compassion, from my vantage point, has a problem. As essential as it is across our traditions, as real as so many of us know it to be in particular lives, the word "compassion" is hollowed out in our culture, and it is suspect in my field of journalism. It's seen as a squishy kumbaya thing. Or it's seen as potentially depressing. Karen Armstrong has told what I think is an iconic story of giving a speech in Holland and, after the fact, the word "compassion" was translated as pity.
Now compassion, when it enters the news, too often comes in the form of feel-good feature pieces or sidebars about heroic people you could never be like or happy endings or examples of self-sacrifice that would seem to be too good to be true most of the time. Our cultural imagination about compassion has been deadened by idealistic images. And so what I'd like to do this morning for the next few minutes is perform a linguistic resurrection. And I hope you'll come with me on my basic premise that words matter, that they shape the way we understand ourselves, the way we interpret the world and the way we treat others.( citation)
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
u guys are hypocrites
its part of being human.
now.
i summarized everything in almost 4 sentences ;D <33333
Well, please define 'hypocrite', provide proof that they are hypocrites, and that hypocrisy is something inherent in the human condition, otherwise, your statement is just as valid as me saying, 'Anyone who isn't a Gooblstooni is a Joosrlsl'.
there you go you just verified my statement <3
and go read OP's statement too while ur at it too will you?
im not about to go read or get to know him to answer exactly how he is one
maybe u can do that since u wanna know so bad
Well, actually, I already had a discussion on that particular subject with the OP- and it is all there for you to see. Now, I don't particularly care if they are hypocrite s and, even if I were, I would never go out of my way to verify their hypocrisy, which is why I refrain from throwing around that word at anyone and everyone, you, on the other hand, are pleased to say that all men are hypocrites, without giving a solid definition of what is and is not hypocrisy and any solid evidence that it is part of 'being human'.
First, let us observe the definition of hypocrisy, as defined by the dictionaries:
hypocrisy- n.
the practice of claiming to have higher standards or more noble beliefs than is the case.
-OED
Hypocrisy- n.
a feigning to be what one is not or to believe what one does not; especially : the false assumption of an appearance of virtue or religion.
-Merriam Webster
Next, let's observe if they fall into this category:
DomFortress, and ginkou-san, as far as I am aware, do not seem to be 'practising the art of claiming to have a higher standard or more noble belief than is the case'- if they were, I wouldn't know, I have not ever met them, nor have I the ability to read minds.
Then, let's try to apply that definition to the whole race of humans:
If DomFortress and Ginkou-san are not hypocrites- at least, cannot be verified to be hypocrites, and they are humans, then, it stand to reason, not every person is a hypocrite, and it is not something inherent in humankind.
Lookit you putting words in my mouth MEN huh? did i ever say that? no i didnt so stfu
the fact they are here showing themselves as NOT hypocrites & then priding themselves in it is evidence enough
and u just contradicted urself dumbass lololol its funny
first its inherent
then its not
make up ur mind will you and go read OP
everyone's been a hypocryite at least once in thier lifes thats MY point
read will you? READ, im not talking about the staged statements here
Peace~
i did say im a hypocrite as im writing these posts, however what im writing is just my opinion based on my logic, my way of thinking =S
im not pointing at certain anyone whether they are hypocrites or not, if you'd read my posts.
if you don't agree with our posts (what you did in the first place) if you'd please verify your points, how our posts make you think that we're hypocrites, just through our words. what did you see in our opinions that makes you think that we're hypocrites?
i didnt read it & im not about to anyways
cmon would u read that?
no.
sry but im that type of a person who'd read most of posts cos they r sometimes interesting
same
but
this hardly struck me as intresting
instead i found the logic of it really retarded
its like argueing if humans are greedy or not
Spoiler Alert! Click to show or hide So you're both a hypocrite and a liar. Not to mention a patronizing and condescending narcissist, who failed at perception management. And I can prove it with your own contradicting, vain, and shallow statement.
First, you claimed that you're someone who, in your own words, that doesn't read other people's statement with "i didnt read it & im not about to anyways". Yet as soon as you met with one who claimed she does, you started claiming, again in your own words, that you're the "same" as she is. However you then quickly downplayed the entire thread to, in your own words yet again, "i found the logic of it really retarded". Even though there you were, being a part of this "retarded" argument. What you ended up doing fits this description: hypocrisy- n.
the practice of claiming to have higher standards or more noble beliefs than is the case.
same as in im the type that'll read most posts
but
this didnt even strike me as intresting
looking u getting all excited lol
yes im a hypocrite myself i think we all cleared that ages ago
anything else u wanna say?
and while were at it ill repeat this one last time
my
point
is
everyones a hypocrite
which includes you
problem?
So you admit you are a hypocrite- interesting! Your reasoning, as far as I can make of it, is this, because I am thus, so must everyone else. You have truly enlightened me, sir or madam, with the most profound revelation that I have yet encountered- using this same strain of logic, I can conclude that every man in the world is Chinese because I am Chinese.
Lero Lero, Lilliburlero
Lilliburlero, Bullen na la
Lero Lero, Lilliburlero
Lilliburlero, bullen na la!
did i saaaaay that
lol u said urself its inheret in human nature
if theres anything to conclude from this thread its that u & dom come up with the wierdest ideas
I NEVER SAID THAT
lmfao god wtf are u reading?
and since ur chinese we can all conclude that theres at least 20 other ppl that have the same face as you
you wont be missed <3
In each edition, the racism and xenophobia is upped! Huzzah!
I said that that is your position, and that I disagreed with it.
Also, about your picture thinger with the Vegans- there is a big difference between being killed for food without consent, and working for pay with consent.
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Everyone is a hypocrite...except me!
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Humans can never be consistent with their thoughts and actions no matter how disciplined they are.
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but i am not!! :rolleyes:
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The definition of a hypocrite is a person who is an actor pretending to be something they're not. Jesus called some people hypocrites because they listened to what He said and pretended to be religious but really weren't. He knows everything and knew those people didn't really believe He is the Savior which He is! :)
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I'm always changing my philosophies and opinions on certain moral issues because I keep on contradicting myself and being hypocritical. I have now realised that there isn't a perfect mindset in which we are not hypocrites.
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I'm always changing my philosophies and opinions on certain moral issues because I keep on contradicting myself and being hypocritical. I have now realised that there isn't a perfect mindset in which we are not hypocrites.
The lack of sincerity is the mark of the hypocrite, not the actual changing of beliefs when proven wrong or infesible- that would be stubborness.
Take Merriam Webster's definition, for example:
a feigning to be what one is not or to believe what one does not; especially : the false assumption of an appearance of virtue or religion
It is the feigning that is the mark of hypocrisy, not the double-standard or the change in opinion.
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Agreed...
We're all bastard... blame it on out instinct...!
We need to be selfish to survive...! that's the rule of the game...!
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Recognizing the near universal characteristic of hypocrisy (especially in yourself) is a small but useful part of becoming an adult. Jejune teenagers generally bemoan hypocrisies they see while a mature individuals try to see the inconsistencies in themselves and then try comprehend the reasons for them in themselves and others.
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how misleading.
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imphic wrote:
Recognizing the near universal characteristic of hypocrisy (especially in yourself) is a small but useful part of becoming an adult. Jejune teenagers generally bemoan hypocrisies they see while a mature individuals try to see the inconsistencies in themselves and then try comprehend the reasons for them in themselves and others.
As I have said before, inconsitencies and fickleness is not hypocrisy- insincerity is.
I can sincerely believe that alcohol is a evil potion brew from the bladder of Satan, and still drink heavily without being a hypocrite, just as I can recommend a nice vication spot without actually having been there. If I am insincere, however, I become a hypocrite- if I do not sincerely believe in the virtue of teetotalling, but I preach its gospel to the crowd, I am, then a hypocrite.
To say that hypocrisy is 'near universal' is completely unfounded, as you cannot prove someone's wanting of sincerity.
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