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New Summer Titles: Sacred Seven, A Dark Rabbit has Seven Lives, & The Mystic Archives of Dantalian
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Nice to see AoD deciding to screw everything up for people who don't want to or can't afford to pay for 2 monthly subscription sites. I'm more than happy to put my money into Crunchyroll and will continue to do so, but with the amount of shows that we're not getting in the UK, it's just gonna help to push me back into downloading fansubs which is something i've stayed away from since i started using this site.

Very dissapointed


My sentiments exactly, the anime streaming has become very fragmented now, to watch most of the shows legally there are multiple sites to go to and to watch them ad free theres another fee involved :(, getting less anime streamed for more money over multiple sites.

The AoD site isn't even worth the subscription, no where near as many anime avalible to watch costs about £5 more a year and doesn't silmulcate (a delay of 2 episodes or something like that).

Have enjoyed the last 2 years of not having to rely of fansubs and support the industry and will continue to do so on CR but i will have to resort to fansubs again.
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Dantalian! YES crunchyroll way to go! Seems like this summer's lineup is quite strong. Might have to renew my anime membership for this hahaha
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Screw CR Last time, they have stimulcasts for worldwide even in Asia. Now, they don't even have stimulcasts for many countries except US, Canada and a handful of European countries. Shame on you CR. You're denying other people from supporting the anime industry even with a Premium membership which still locks out many stimulcasts. You're not even staying truest to anime fans that support CR all around the world. Might as well resort to fansubs
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Nevermind...
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JeeKTan wrote:

Screw CR Last time, they have stimulcasts for worldwide even in Asia. Now, they don't even have stimulcasts for many countries except US, Canada and a handful of European countries. Shame on you CR. You're denying other people from supporting the anime industry even with a Premium membership which still locks out many stimulcasts. You're not even staying truest to anime fans that support CR all around the world. Might as well resort to fansubs


I agree I subscribed to crunchyroll to watch most of my anime's online legally and now I am starting to to regret having a pass since you guys hardly license much anime for the U.K I'm very dissapointed
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JeeKTan wrote:

Screw CR Last time, they have stimulcasts for worldwide even in Asia. Now, they don't even have stimulcasts for many countries except US, Canada and a handful of European countries. Shame on you CR. You're denying other people from supporting the anime industry even with a Premium membership which still locks out many stimulcasts. You're not even staying truest to anime fans that support CR all around the world. Might as well resort to fansubs


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I agree I subscribed to crunchyroll to watch most of my anime's online legally and now I am starting to to regret having a pass since you guys hardly license much anime for the U.K I'm very dissapointed

Yes, because CR is obviously omitting your region for certain titles because they hate you. Not because the other choice would be not getting the title for anyone, or offering up more money than the title is worth (and likely, more than they could afford).

If you are going to blame someone, make certain you assign the blame correctly.

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I like the line-up so far. Dantalian is a great addition. (Its too bad that the last four they announced were already available on Hulu or NicoNico, but it is simpler to watch on CR and I can get them on Roku...)

Did anybody else notice that they added another spot to the line-up page? There are 11 new shows listed now and yesterday there were 10. Great! Glad to see the buyers are still working hard, even at this late date! Can't wait for the next 2 summer announcements. (I won't call them the last 2, since you never know! LOL!)
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I really want to see No. 6 but liking the current list so far.
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JeeKTan wrote:

Screw CR Last time, they have stimulcasts for worldwide even in Asia. Now, they don't even have stimulcasts for many countries except US, Canada and a handful of European countries. Shame on you CR. You're denying other people from supporting the anime industry even with a Premium membership which still locks out many stimulcasts. You're not even staying truest to anime fans that support CR all around the world. Might as well resort to fansubs


Tashfinz wrote:
I agree I subscribed to crunchyroll to watch most of my anime's online legally and now I am starting to to regret having a pass since you guys hardly license much anime for the U.K I'm very dissapointed

Yes, because CR is obviously omitting your region for certain titles because they hate you. Not because the other choice would be not getting the title for anyone, or offering up more money than the title is worth (and likely, more than they could afford).

If you are going to blame someone, make certain you assign the blame correctly.



Oh shut up moron. Just because you stay in US you can get all the simulcasts. Try living in UK or Asia which most of the shows are region blocked. And also in the past, CR did simulcasts in other countries like UK and Asia even with monopoly from Animax so i don't see why CR this time not offering simulcasts outside US.

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It is because getting rights to these simulcasts cost money. YES. That is the only reason they are not bringing anime to your region! Are you saying it is because they have a personal vendetta against your region? Do you understand how ridiculous that sounds?

In the past, they might have had the money to do it, or perhaps they were able to more cheaply get simulcast rights for that show. Also, many of them might hold off on giving simulcast rights in order to ask for a higher price DVD distribution rights.

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OMAIGOSH!! I WAS LOOKING FORWARD TO ALL THREE OF THOSE TITLES!!! THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THEM HERE CRUNCHYROLL!
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Oh shut up moron. Just because you stay in US you can get all the simulcasts. Try living in UK or Asia which most of the shows are region blocked. And also in the past, CR did simulcasts in other countries like UK and Asia even with monopoly from Animax so i don't see why CR this time not offering simulcasts outside US.



What a self-centered, insulting post. You really have no understanding of international copyright, licensing, or business.

If CR doesn't obey a region block, it could easily threaten the whole service. You're talking DMCA takedown, if that's not obeyed, a copyright violation, trademark violation, and they'll screw you in civil court if they don't first fubar CR's host ISPs too, taking all of CR down, which they can do with a judicial domain transfer or wholesale server confiscation. I hate region restrictions, but for CR to exist on the legal right of things, they have to play by the rules entirely, and those are the rules.

And for a person in the UK to even talk about region blocking--the BBC at least used to do this worldwide when they launched their streaming service (Torchwood and Doctor Who fans know). JK Rawlings doesn't even allow Potter in ebook form, that's how much power the copyright holder has, they can go so far as to restrict formats, even though readers have been screaming for it and supposedly ebook sellers such as Amazon has for years been salivating to get it released that way. Further, I'd even bet there's a region block because a UK company probably has negotiated rights to the shows along the way. I used to read (what was it?, a UK anime mag) NEO, and it was always interesting how many of the licensing companies and distributors were entirely different than other countries. In any case, you can hardly blame a US company for region blocking the UK, when the UK could get a streaming company (a business opportunity), but no, you don't do that, you'd rather lash out and blame a US company like CR for your weak anime offerings when they likely have squat to do with _preventing_ it.

Really, what, you think we in the US own all your internet lines, or come up with licensing to screw you (psst, hey, we'll license this, but US only, make sure the bloody fish and chip blokes on the island don't get served up).

It has nothing to do with what you want, or some US company screwing you. CR is too far downstream despite what you may think. It has to do with the copyright holder. It's one of the reasons the fracturing streaming of anime is becoming so problematic--instead of cross-licensing, they're essentially forming trusts on the streaming rights on top of the monopoly power they hold over the content. It shuts people and markets out, people hate it, but they continue doing it because somehow, someway they are happy with the limited distribution, probably because they are getting paid greater with licensing schemes and exclusivity than a general release (and it's not exclusive to copyright--patent holders do this a lot as well with greater repercussions, see pharmaceuticals). There's no legal way to force a holder to license to you or to accept terms even if the compensation is more than fair.

Finally, I'm not adverse to calling someone a moron, but to call someone that who clearly knows more, is considering more, and who was not insulting at all, is absurd.
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Oh shut up moron. Just because you stay in US you can get all the simulcasts. Try living in UK or Asia which most of the shows are region blocked. And also in the past, CR did simulcasts in other countries like UK and Asia even with monopoly from Animax so i don't see why CR this time not offering simulcasts outside US.



What a self-centered, insulting post. You really have no understanding of international copyright, licensing, or business.

If CR doesn't obey a region block, it could easily threaten the whole service. You're talking DMCA takedown, if that's not obeyed, a copyright violation, trademark violation, and they'll screw you in civil court if they don't first fubar CR's host ISPs too, taking all of CR down, which they can do with a judicial domain transfer or wholesale server confiscation. I hate region restrictions, but for CR to exist on the legal right of things, they have to play by the rules entirely, and those are the rules.

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Didn't wanna quote the whole post hehe.

I totally agree with what you've posted in here. Personally i'm not blaming CR for the problem, i'm just annoyed that people outside of the US are pretty much being forced into subbing to extra sites if they want to legally watch decent quality anime. It's a bad move on the license holders part imo as it will push more people back into illegal downloading as not everyone wants multiple subscriptions etc...

I think the original post you replied to was pointlessly rude, and i'm glad you gave the poster a dressing down, but one thing... lay off the fish and chips buddy... nothing wrong with them
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bulmasman wrote:
I totally agree with what you've posted in here. Personally i'm not blaming CR for the problem, i'm just annoyed that people outside of the US are pretty much being forced into subbing to extra sites if they want to legally watch decent quality anime. It's a bad move on the license holders part imo as it will push more people back into illegal downloading as not everyone wants multiple subscriptions etc...

The part of your message I bolded is the key. Blaming CR is like shooting the messenger.

I agree with you this type of thing could cause some people to revert back to fansubs, after starting to get used to the idea of legal streaming.

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Ah nice, I'm interested in watching Dantalian. This sounds like an interesting series.
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