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Piracy dont kill their industry, Licenses do
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Posted 7/8/11
"Sorry, due to licensing limitations, videos are unavailable in your region."
and they whine about piracy kills their industry, more correctly its licenses that kills business

for me, i get many stupid license restrictions that its awful

do they not understand that they need to have their product available or they dont get any monkeys aka money?
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Posted 7/8/11
it should say doesn't or does not kill the industry and we have plenty of threads on this already, change your ip addresses/ mask it or region on your computer to play dvd's. Buy a region free DVD player or get a blu player due i n part region restriction is not as bad. For video streams due what i suggested USE A PROXY then you can what what you want.
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Posted 7/8/11 , edited 7/8/11
Japanese Anime Industry doesn't rely on foreign investors to keep their business afloat. Foreign investors are just merely an extra profit from their intended target market.

So when people say Piracy kills the anime industry, it's the American License Holder suffer from profit loss not the Japanese Anime Industry.
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Posted 7/9/11 , edited 7/9/11
20$ for 3 episodes of anime is what killed their business to be honest >.>
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Posted 7/9/11
Everyone should know that behind every single decision made by any company is "politics and paper work" and if the anime is not of the best interest then it simply will not be aired there, bottom line is money...
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Posted 7/9/11

Maou068 wrote:

Japanese Anime Industry doesn't rely on foreign investors to keep their business afloat. Foreign investors are just merely an extra profit from their intended target market.

So when people say Piracy kills the anime industry, it's the American License Holder suffer from profit loss not the Japanese Anime Industry.

In your own message, you pointed the Japanese anime industry does suffer a profit loss...but that it usually isn't critical.

Shoplifting isn't likely to put a store out of business, but if said store is already is on the ropes, it could be the proverbial straw the breaks the camel's back.

There have been a few instances where another season of a series was made due to foreign interest (typically where interest in Japan would at best result in break-even sales, but foreign interest was high).

Going forward, foreign licenses are going to become more important, simply due to the shrinking market in Japan (due to lower birth rates), but this will not be significant for several years. I do expect, however, to see within my lifetime the day when most anime will depend on the expectation of foreign licensing to proceed with licensing, unless methods are found to create it for significantly less cost.

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Sexual depictions are what is killing the industry. If they remove the indecent content in anime, they should be able to air easier in other countries.
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Sexual depictions are what is killing the industry. If they remove the indecent content in anime, they should be able to air easier in other countries.


okay i am going to be nice did you read the caption or what it was about?? It sad LICENSING kills the industry, region restriction not what you think should be taken out nor is this a discussion of what should be taken out. This is about limiting streams to a per country due to the amount of paper work, licensing agreements with the other countries, and so forth. Sexual content has nothing to do it nor does violent content, it's simply up the major licenses holders in each country. Not crunchy rolls
Posted 7/9/11
I disagree with the OP, licenses open up foreign interest and, in most cases, helps out the anime industry.

Anyways, I'm sure majority of the people here understands that the OP is just complaining about not being able to watch some shows. There are other methods to watch them - Use those methods if you have to.
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I disagree with the OP, licenses open up foreign interest and, in most cases, helps out the anime industry.

Anyways, I'm sure majority of the people here understands that the OP is just complaining about not being able to watch some shows. There are other methods to watch them - Use those methods if you have to.


I stated to use a proxy but... well it's up them
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Posted 7/9/11

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AsuraCryin wrote:

I disagree with the OP, licenses open up foreign interest and, in most cases, helps out the anime industry.

Anyways, I'm sure majority of the people here understands that the OP is just complaining about not being able to watch some shows. There are other methods to watch them - Use those methods if you have to.


I stated to use a proxy but... well it's up them


NOOOOO all anime must be pirated because that is the best way to help the industry .....................

It is very hard on the foreign consumers of anime ever since torrents has really introduced anime to the west.
Yet many license holders really do not care too much.
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You call money monkeys. That's enough for me to want to disagree with you. Most foreign sales are extra profit sure there have been some sales that spiked due to foreign interest but usually the market is targeted towards Japanese viewers.
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Posted 7/9/11 , edited 7/9/11

demo_Animation wrote:

20$ for 3 episodes of anime is what killed their business to be honest >.>


The Japanese would kill to have prices like that for anime.



confuser987 wrote:

Sexual depictions are what is killing the industry. If they remove the indecent content in anime, they should be able to air easier in other countries.


Actually, some of the better selling anime in America are the ecchi, or sexual, kind. Recent topsellers on Amazon show Highschool of the Dead, Demon King Daimou and Dance in the Vampire Bund, all anime with nudity and sexual themes.
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Posted 7/9/11 , edited 7/9/11

RyanSaotome wrote:


demo_Animation wrote:

20$ for 3 episodes of anime is what killed their business to be honest >.>


The Japanese would kill to have prices like that for anime.



confuser987 wrote:

Sexual depictions are what is killing the industry. If they remove the indecent content in anime, they should be able to air easier in other countries.


Actually, some of the better selling anime in America are the ecchi, or sexual, kind. Recent topsellers on Amazon show Highschool of the Dead, Demon King Daimou and Dance in the Vampire Bund, all anime with nudity and sexual themes.


really? I've seen shops in asia selling DVDs of anime for half the price and twice the content.
Legit DVDs too.
Posted 7/9/11 , edited 7/9/11
Lack of merchandising overseas is what's killing the industry. Look at how much fucking money I dump on delivery companies.

You can't simply pirate a proper figure. And if you do it'll likely look retarded.
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