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Piracy dont kill their industry, Licenses do
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Posted 7/9/11

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demo_Animation wrote:

20$ for 3 episodes of anime is what killed their business to be honest >.>


The Japanese would kill to have prices like that for anime.



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Sexual depictions are what is killing the industry. If they remove the indecent content in anime, they should be able to air easier in other countries.


Actually, some of the better selling anime in America are the ecchi, or sexual, kind. Recent topsellers on Amazon show Highschool of the Dead, Demon King Daimou and Dance in the Vampire Bund, all anime with nudity and sexual themes.


really? I've seen shops in asia selling DVDs of anime for half the price and twice the content.
Legit DVDs too.




Heres an example of a new anime BD. Lets go by the sale price... it is 67 dollars if you use Google, and that is for 2 episodes. If you go by the price you'd find it in a normal store, it would be 91 dollars.
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I don't leave pirating is killing the industry, I think most people can agree that buying the anime dvd is a lot more satisfying than having to download it and making their own. It's usually the cost and how they release the episodes that makes people not want to buy it, also when they are censored and altered it takes away from the anime and no one wants to buy it. Also I never see anime being advertised at all, I think they need to do that so people know they are out there.
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I've seen amazon sell pokemon red and blue for 140$ :<
I can get new versions of either for 5$ at gamestop >.<
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I've seen amazon sell pokemon red and blue for 140$ :<
I can get new versions of either for 5$ at gamestop >.<


Yes, those are new versions that are insanely rare at this point. What I'm showing is the standard price for a new release.

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RyanSaotome wrote:


demo_Animation wrote:



I've seen amazon sell pokemon red and blue for 140$ :<
I can get new versions of either for 5$ at gamestop >.<


Yes, those are new versions that are insanely rare at this point. What I'm showing is the standard price for a new release.



Either way the price for anime is over priced, I doubt anyone would buy a 30mins TV show for $20 for every two - three episodes
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even still school days hq is coming state side fully uncensored, that couldn't have happened with out the fans here and my back account is ready.
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Posted 7/9/11

Whitedragon40k wrote:


RyanSaotome wrote:


demo_Animation wrote:



I've seen amazon sell pokemon red and blue for 140$ :<
I can get new versions of either for 5$ at gamestop >.<


Yes, those are new versions that are insanely rare at this point. What I'm showing is the standard price for a new release.



Either way the price for anime is over priced, I doubt anyone would buy a 30mins TV show for $20 for every two - three episodes


But the product in question will sell over 30,000 copies at the price listed on amazon....
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what are you all talking about ?? i bought flcl at wal-mart for 20 bucks for all 6 episodes.
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llamaben wrote:


Whitedragon40k wrote:


RyanSaotome wrote:


demo_Animation wrote:



I've seen amazon sell pokemon red and blue for 140$ :<
I can get new versions of either for 5$ at gamestop >.<


Yes, those are new versions that are insanely rare at this point. What I'm showing is the standard price for a new release.



Either way the price for anime is over priced, I doubt anyone would buy a 30mins TV show for $20 for every two - three episodes


But the product in question will sell over 30,000 copies at the price listed on amazon....

And while people do buy at those prices there is no reason why the companies bringing the DVDs to market would change as they are selling enough units to make it worth their while, but the high price tag puts off a lot of potential buyers as it is too high an asking price for something they might not like.
Posted 7/10/11
That's nothing new.
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what are you all talking about ?? i bought flcl at wal-mart for 20 bucks for all 6 episodes.


You forget, most of the haters here probably don't have jobs so they justify theft because of the cost.
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Whitedragon40k


Either way the price for anime is over priced, I doubt anyone would buy a 30mins TV show for $20 for every two - three episodes


People do that all the time for movies, which can be just as long or perhaps a half an hour longer. are you really going to say one more episode would make it ok?
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Hmm... it's kinda clear there's some ignorance in this thread. Let's go after that bit:

Licensing does not kill the industry. Period. Anime is produced first and foremost for the Japanese audience, with few exceptions. And, the Japanese studios have several ways of receiving income from a title- fees from TV networks to air the show, media sales, merchandising, and yes, sub-licensing. Despite all these avenues, some series still lose money. Let's look at each step- TV networks are actually paying less for unknown and unproven content. New anime falls into this category. Something like Naruto, a proven title, can get a premium, but new series X can't. With the risks of the new series, coupled with the time slots these series get, less is being paid. (A time slot of 1:30 AM, a standard time slot for many anime, also is getting less ad revenue, thus the network offering less for a show to fill this time slot.) Media sales are down also. Fansubs have been cited as completely decimating some markets for anime. In some east-Asian countries, Japan's sales of DVDs are down by over 90% due to the ease of getting illegal files. Sales in Japan also are down, estimating between 30-40%.

Continuing, merchandise is down slightly. The continuing recession in Japan, coupled with reduced exports due to the strengthening value of the yen is hitting from all angles. And this leaves licensing. Guess what, this is also down! It's no secret the bubble burst. Many anime companies have closed their doors, on both sides of the Pacific. Less companies competing for licenses (in a shakier global economy, to boot) results in selling a series for less. The problem in Japan came about that budgets ballooned from the expected higher license revenues. When that bubble burst, the Japanese studios now had these expensive shows with no way of recouping their costs. Thus, companies that many of us know and love are now reporting financial instabilities, exhibit A: Gonzo. And this is just from a reduction in the revenue. You want to remove this piece entirely? That'll be certain to put more companies out of business. Companies in trouble in Japan? Gone. Any dedicated anime company in the Americas? Gone. Even sites that pay to secure streaming rights, would be gone, or under litigation from the Japanese companies! So yes, CR would be gone. All because you think licensing is a problem.

A few other notes- very few Japanese DVDs are anywhere near $20. (I don't know what Taiwanese legit disks retail for, maybe that poster was thinking of them?) A disk in the ¥2000-3000 range is usually either a reprint on an older series (Gravitation OVA re-release for ¥2500, 9 years later) or a single episode (FLCL disk 1, ¥2980. Galaxy Angel Rune 1, ¥2800.) A full featured disk still goes for an average between ¥6000-8000. The Japanese have come down some in their pricing, some may remember the days of select VHS tapes running close to ¥10,000. Likewise, American prices have come down significantly. A series that used to cost $30 x 6-8 disks now can be had for less than half that. (Piracy was cited to be a bigger danger to American companies, who cut prices faster to try to compete with something that's free- a mistake, I think.) This huge drop in retail pricing, coupled with raising dub costs, is what led to the drop in licensing fees paid, and, in many cases, the mere existance of a dub. And lack of a dub means... further reduced sales. During the bubble in America, a decent seller could get 20,000 units sold. (If anyone remembers the pains of finding the .Hack//Sign vol 1 with box, recall it alone had a print run of 15,000.) Now, your average title sells about 2000-3000 per unit. Japan's numbers are actually comparable, with the occasional blockbuster still getting in the mid 5-digit sales in the end. (First week sales of Naruto movie 4 were just over 16,000, for a scale.) And don't get me started on blu-ray sales and pricing...
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