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Baka & Kawaii
Posted 7/10/11
Any excuse to speak Japanese.
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I am gonna admit, I am quite the Nihongophile, I love Japan! I love the art(games, animation, comics, movies, music) the food and the women, hell, I've even studied the laguage for the past few years. However I'm also a Deutschlandophile, a Francophile and if I sit here and mention all the nations I love I won't ever get up.

I say "baka" and "Kawaii" sometimes, I say "baka" whenever I try to be a smartass and talk in other languanges no one understands, ex: "shikuza, baka!" (shut up, idiot) or whenever my brother is watching some anime with lolis and stupidity and just to further the joke he says things like "so kawaii is touching me right here, and here" (while pointing at his heart and then crotch) sometimes I just follow him on the joke and say "Yeah, so kawaii..."

But people that say it all the time just wear it out, and sometimes it's not even cool or funny. But half of the time I don't have a problem with it. However theese weeaboos can get annoying when they say "desu" after every sentence, or "-kun,-chan,-nee" at the end of someone's name. Or when they get hurt and say "itaii!" make sure to hurt them harder.
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I just wanna kill them,most of them do it cuz they wanna be cute or appear japanese to other people

My cousin does that and she thinks she's cute but she's just a fat annoying demon...................no,not a demon,some demons r cute
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Posted 7/10/11
They want to feel japanese using the limited words that they know lol.
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Posted 7/10/11
I really don't know. There's no reason to randomly add those words in. I really want to go up to someone and just say "kowai" and see if they think I'm calling them cute.
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Posted 7/10/11
Using these terms in everyday conversations entitles the hearer to punch the speaker in the face.

With a Buick.
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Posted 7/10/11
Though this just looks like a mutual exchange of ranting rather than discussion, I shall still give my input. You need to realize that all societies have been using words from foreign languages they don't speak fluently within their own native language for not just "a long time" but a really long time potentially measured in the thousands of years (except times and places where law or religion prohibits foreign words). What language are we speaking? English? Something like blond is casually spoken for it is an english word, right? No. Blond is entirely a french word. How about ranch or cafeteria? Those were taken from spanish. English is a fine example of using other languages in a sloppy manner. Plenty english words were simply taken from other languages without the creativity to come up with a logical original word, and bearing the intent to preserve the taken word so as to maintain the "romantic" or similar feel of such a fancy word. Yet usually the words get mutilated to suit our own pronunciation over time, and probably has earned complaints at times from speakers of the original languages. Like it or not, this is a part of the growth of a language. Directly using foreign words can be found in more distant cultures, including Greek.

Plenty of japanese people will use english similarly, without fully understanding what they're saying. After the initial Obama campaign, it was not too hard to see or hear a scene of a japanese person reacting to an american by cheering "Yes we can" with no suitable context to that. But it should be easy to understand their intent is sincere. And of course it is not limited to these two languages. As I've tried to point out, it is a global behavior, just not something necessarily done by everyone.

While poor grammar can distract me, I'm not going to whine about it. If I can understand someone and communicate mutual intentions, then I won't worry about the smaller details. There's worse that the person could be doing, like discriminating. I'd much rather hear someone end their english sentences with desu than hear someone going on about how anime fans are just perverted basement-dwellers, or other things that have true negativity to them.



giganticrobot wrote:

I'll just leave this here.

Stephen Fry - Language


Awesomely put, I've wanted a video like this to pass around.
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Because in Japan they use "kawaii" like the plague so people here who have a strong love for Japanese culture or anime or drama's mix pick it up. I don't have a problem with "baka", but I just don't like the word "kawaii" haha. However, there's nothing wrong with mixing them in with the English language - who cares? I don't do it, but I am guilty of saying things like "por que" and "como!?" - so it's the same thing except I'm mixing Spanish with English instead of Japanese. (I teach at a Spanish school). I also spent months in Russia recently and I still slip up and say "spaciba" instead of "thank you", but most people like it when I do that. So why is it any different if people say Japanese words? Why does there need to be a label for it? People have been mixing languages FOREVER. It's part of language development and it makes the evolution more interesting.

What drives me nuts is that most people pronounce "baka" wrong. It's "baaaaka" not "bakaaa". If you're gonna say it, say it right, MAN.
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Posted 7/10/11
The Japanese use a lot of Engrish too, they're just as bad. Both sides are annoying, just try ignoring them.
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giganticrobot wrote:

I'll just leave this here.

Stephen Fry - Language


Awesomely put, I've wanted a video like this to pass around.



Thanks. I'm glad someone looked at the video. I thought that my post would get glossed over and no one would pay it any mind. Maybe it's just me, but otaku being hostile to others in the community makes me feel pretty horrible. I used to be a pariah of sorts, and because nerdom isn't exactly respected when you are growing up I thought there might be more of a general acceptance of "weirdness" among anime fans....but I guess that has changed since anime has become so much more mainstream over the recent past.

However, I really see no point in quibbling over such a minor issue, especially one of language. If someone whats to express their love of another culture through using foreign words what exactly is the problem? We participate in our own culture every day. Sometimes it is very refreshing to break those bounds and cut loose. I am actually quite interested how what new slang will be concocted the more Japanese drips it's way into the otaku vernacular. Some it it might become surprisingly eloquent, but to do that you have to relish in communication and take delight in meshing cultures together.
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demo_Animation wrote:

Lol
Baka means beef in tagalogue :3


Haha I had to laugh at this one XD The first time I heard the word "Baka" I was like "huh??" because it is pronounced the same as cow in Spanish, although it is written "vaca".
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KleinerSkollexxx wrote:

The Japanese use a lot of Engrish too, they're just as bad. Both sides are annoying, just try ignoring them.


I used to live in okinawa, and when my neighborhood found out i was american, it was terrible xD
I wanted to punch the next person who "Yo! Yo!"'d me....
Japanese citizens are not anime characters, and US citizens are not mindless gang bangers >.>
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I know ;_; I hate when either of them are generalized as such. Japanese are not just a bunch of kawaii high schoolers, and I hate when they're identified as so. Plus, I don't like how foreigners seem to think Americans are a bunch of brutes, we're not all that bad, really!
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Posted 7/10/11
I have no problem dealing with people who use exotic language to convey their thoughts but using such words in the wrong place and wrong time will only make you look stupid.

In the Filipino language, baka may refer to 'cow', 'maybe' or 'beef' depending on the context.... In Cebuano however, the word 'baka' strictly means cow. Many of my brethren poke fun at weeabos using this Filipino word.
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demo_Animation wrote:

Lol
Baka means beef in tagalogue :3


This man speaks the truth.
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