Speciesism and Extraterrestrial Life
58171 cr points
Send Message: Send PM GB Post
Offline
Posted 7/10/11
With the universe as vast as it is, it is irrational to think life does not exist outside the atmosphere of the earth.

I hope that this topic maintains what I wish to discuss. This is how would humans classify extraterrestrials if they were just as intelligent or only slightly more so. This goes under the assumption that at the time of finding, how intelligent we are. If the theory of panspermia were proven correct would this change the attitude of humans toward extraterrestrials. The particular attitude I am looking for is speciesism. It is the consensus that means that the target species would have less right to life or general civil liberty, than say a human who is of higher authority than the other species.

That assumes that humans would have authority over the other particular species. However, what if humans were found by extraterrestrials. How would humans think of them if Earth was the first planet with life the particular civilization found. Would trade happen? Would cultures merge? And if the aliens were compatible for copulation, would humans ban or make such an act taboo. Would the extraterrestrials do the same? I ask because in the United States, one of the most culturally diverse places, and is full of racism, and separatist activity, although not done by law, the humans chose this individually for one reason or another.

This all assumes that both the humans and the extraterrestrials are of similar intelligence and the same peaceful goals. So how would this work out?
Posted 7/10/11

ctoon0 wrote:

With the universe as vast as it is, it is irrational to think life does not exist outside the atmosphere of the earth.

I hope that this topic maintains what I wish to discuss. This is how would humans classify extraterrestrials if they were just as intelligent or only slightly more so. This goes under the assumption that at the time of finding, how intelligent we are. If the theory of panspermia were proven correct would this change the attitude of humans toward extraterrestrials. The particular attitude I am looking for is speciesism. It is the consensus that means that the target species would have less right to life or general civil liberty, than say a human who is of higher authority than the other species.

That assumes that humans would have authority over the other particular species. However, what if humans were found by extraterrestrials. How would humans think of them if Earth was the first planet with life the particular civilization found. Would trade happen? Would cultures merge? And if the aliens were compatible for copulation, would humans ban or make such an act taboo. Would the extraterrestrials do the same? I ask because in the United States, one of the most culturally diverse places, and is full of racism, and separatist activity, although not done by law, the humans chose this individually for one reason or another.

This all assumes that both the humans and the extraterrestrials are of similar intelligence and the same peaceful goals. So how would this work out?


141349 cr points
Send Message: Send PM GB Post
M / Someplace
Offline
Posted 7/10/11

ctoon0 wrote:

With the universe as vast as it is, it is irrational to think life does not exist outside the atmosphere of the earth.

I hope that this topic maintains what I wish to discuss. This is how would humans classify extraterrestrials if they were just as intelligent or only slightly more so. This goes under the assumption that at the time of finding, how intelligent we are. If the theory of panspermia were proven correct would this change the attitude of humans toward extraterrestrials. The particular attitude I am looking for is speciesism. It is the consensus that means that the target species would have less right to life or general civil liberty, than say a human who is of higher authority than the other species.

That assumes that humans would have authority over the other particular species. However, what if humans were found by extraterrestrials. How would humans think of them if Earth was the first planet with life the particular civilization found. Would trade happen? Would cultures merge? And if the aliens were compatible for copulation, would humans ban or make such an act taboo. Would the extraterrestrials do the same? I ask because in the United States, one of the most culturally diverse places, and is full of racism, and separatist activity, although not done by law, the humans chose this individually for one reason or another.

This all assumes that both the humans and the extraterrestrials are of similar intelligence and the same peaceful goals. So how would this work out?


I suggest you to go browse through the Extended Discussion section. Your thread is probably somewhere in there.
85320 cr points
Send Message: Send PM GB Post
28 / M / Colorado, USA
Offline
Posted 7/10/11
Taking into account the entire human population, a great majority of humans still think very little about the well-being of animals relative to how they regard other humans. Ability to communicate with language is a major part of that. Regardless of the intelligence of an extraterrestrial species, if communication is not instantly easy, plenty of humans are not going to think of them with equal status. It can go in either direction however, either belittling or glorifying the species. And this only takes into account human tendencies, the other species would likely have culture very different from ours, so you can't apply human behavior in predicting their side of interactions. Not to mention there's not much reason to assume they'd even be humanoid or even bipedal.

Now assuming it were instead like what's common in fiction -- they're intelligent, humanoid, and somehow are able to easily communicate -- I'd say human behavior is progressing in a way suitable enough to accept and merge societies (naturally only over a very long time). If those conditions are met, many humans will be able to react calmly, and with curiosity.
58171 cr points
Send Message: Send PM GB Post
Offline
Posted 7/10/11 , edited 7/10/11
This does fail to take into account for the overwhelming number of theories for how life started. This of course also fails to account for the possibility that life on earth was intentionally seeded by extraterrestrials. However that is also somewhat unlikely for a number of reasons. But this could make it possible that we are/were made in their image. Again this is not likely and they would probable look similar to us as a dog does. There would be similar features, but overall be very different. And the alien culture would have different culture no doubt. However from human history we see that we love to conquest and conquering. Who is to say another sentient species would not have a similar history. What if this is just the burden of being "intelligent".

"this" my original post and theories.
Posted 7/10/11 , edited 7/10/11
http://www.crunchyroll.com/forumtopic-678812/is-there-life-on-other-planets

A lot of what this thread has to offer is already in the above thread link. Or at the very least, has been inquired and mentioned in passing.
23034 cr points
Send Message: Send PM GB Post
17 / M / boys locker room
Offline
Posted 7/11/11
Hnnn really!?
19416 cr points
Send Message: Send PM GB Post
F / USA
Offline
Posted 7/11/11
I believe if extraterrestrials found and visited earth now, humans would react to them as humans react to other humans of different groups, i.e. with variety, depending on who is more powerful and what the 'aliens' have to offer...and how they fit in with different sects of religious thought. I believe you can guess how each factor would affect people's reactions to other people, so no need to describe further. Again, this is assuming humans and 'aliens' have similar levels of intelligence and abilities in communication and contact is established with human beings in their current development.
Posted 7/11/11
there's some extraterrestrials on my dick...no i think that's just Crabs
609 cr points
Send Message: Send PM GB Post
Offline
Posted 7/12/11
DUP! but yeah, I believe that there's some form of life out there.
Posted 7/12/11
There's life out there but we simply don't have the technological advances to get to them.
4046 cr points
Send Message: Send PM GB Post
104 / F / Indianapolis, Ind...
Offline
Posted 7/12/11
Watch "ET". The government of the world would do exactly as the government did in ET...hunt down the alien life form and destroy it. Why? Because humans are idiots and by nature, suspicious of anything not familiar to ourselves, yet we don't try to understand that difference, but instead, try to eradicate it. Call it intolerance if you will.

Do I believe there is life in the universe (other than the infestation on Earth) YES. It is not logical to even think that in all the cosmos, known and/or unknown, that only ONE little blue and green (rapidly turning brown) planet is the ONLY one to contain a (used to be) intelligent life form. And as Chained_Angel stated.... "There's life out there but we simply don't have the technological advances to get to them." Perhaps THEY have the technology to get to us. Maybe they already have...which is why they aren't coming around so often now.
You must be logged in to post.