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Posted 11/15/06

haddon wrote:


punkfilter wrote:


Dunharrow wrote:

I think Abortion and stem cell research is horrible. You should watch "the silent scream"


why do people think abortion is so bad?

i have a friend who is 19, and hes been going out ith a 16 yr old for almost 2 yrs
recently tho, she got pregnant [which sucks], and if she doesnt get an abortion, he will go to jail, and her family will disown her
bad, right?


honestly, hes an idiot then... you date a girl thats illegal, have sex with her, and then knock her up, you deserve some consequences. maybe not jail, but something




all i have to say is fuck that kid if he wants an abortion if he can be man enough to fuck someone then be man enough to take the responibilities that comes with the consequences of having sex if you think your mature enough to make adult choices like that then be mature enough to take responsibility for the action that occurs afterwards. running away and taking the easy way out so you can save your own ass @ the extent of a childs life is such utter bullshit your friends a bitch ass


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Posted 11/15/06

kyocool wrote:


haddon wrote:


punkfilter wrote:


Dunharrow wrote:

I think Abortion and stem cell research is horrible. You should watch "the silent scream"


why do people think abortion is so bad?

i have a friend who is 19, and hes been going out ith a 16 yr old for almost 2 yrs
recently tho, she got pregnant [which sucks], and if she doesnt get an abortion, he will go to jail, and her family will disown her
bad, right?


honestly, hes an idiot then... you date a girl thats illegal, have sex with her, and then knock her up, you deserve some consequences. maybe not jail, but something




all i have to say is fuck that kid if he wants an abortion if he can be man enough to fuck someone then be man enough to take the responibilities that comes with the consequences of having sex if you think your mature enough to make adult choices like that then be mature enough to take responsibility for the action that occurs afterwards. running away and taking the easy way out so you can save your own ass @ the extent of a childs life is such utter bullshit your friends a bitch ass


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your friend's "thingy" shud be cut off ...
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by 'thingy' you mean dick, penis, phalus, cock, schlong, jizz-dispenser, rod, etc. Its 2006, 'thingy' = shaft
Posted 11/15/06

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by 'thingy' you mean dick, penis, phalus, cock, schlong, jizz-dispenser, rod, etc. Its 2006, 'thingy' = shaft



how eloquently spoken Cbisram hahahahah





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Posted 11/16/06
Reasons to hate abortion:
1)It is dangerous to women, the side effects are severe enough to leave women sterile.

2)How come serial killers and pets are put to death as painlessly as possible? But nearly-born babies are tortured to death in abortion techniques? And don't tell me they can't feel anything, they have developed nerve systems and reflexes. Pain is a definite for a fetus after it hearts and brain begin functioning.
If they had developed vocal systems they would scream as they were aborted.

3)The child that is aborted might be a random genius that finds the cure for AIDS or cancer or any of the numerous problems we have creatd for ourselves. Genetic mutation is a natural part of reproduction. But it won't be, if all the people who really want a guilt-free abortion have one. Studies indicate that 80% of children are truly unplanned. If abortion was fully supported a generation ago with no religious intervention, most of you pro-abortionists wouldn't be here.

4)I believe life begins once natural conditions do little to affect a natural process. Scientifically-speaking, life begins on conception, it is automatic and self-supporting. But consciously I don't know how anyone can support abortion after the fetus can feel and respond.

Reasons to support abortion:
1)It's the easy way out of a problem created by stupidity and ignorance. Babies don't conceive themselves you know. But that doesn't say much for Humanity.

2)A stockpile of stem cells. AKA immortality for those who can afford it(Republicans, not the public, Magic Johnson). Through the flesh-harvesting of younge generations, old conservative bastards will continue to live and influence the world. Imagine if Strom Thurman had access to stem cells. Or Dick Cheney(probably already does)

And cloning sucks too, life without consequence, is inherently evil and illogical. And how would you feel if you were a clone, a copy of a person. Do you have a soul or individuality? Who's shadow would you live your life in? If they let you live?
Now I know what Rei in Evangelion was all about, I thought she was just moody.
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Posted 11/16/06
I'm not for abortion in the 2nd and especially not the 3rd trimester of pregnancy but a woman should be able to do so in the 1st trimester with no bitching from others. Since I don't think the fetus has a nervous system at that point or much else. If you arent ready for a baby, then have an abortion. It's better than having the kid and giving him/her a fucked possibly loveless life.

Wait this isnt an abortion thread ... lol
Posted 11/16/06

daviddesolate wrote:


kyocool wrote:


haddon wrote:


punkfilter wrote:


Dunharrow wrote:

I think Abortion and stem cell research is horrible. You should watch "the silent scream"


why do people think abortion is so bad?

i have a friend who is 19, and hes been going out ith a 16 yr old for almost 2 yrs
recently tho, she got pregnant [which sucks], and if she doesnt get an abortion, he will go to jail, and her family will disown her
bad, right?


honestly, hes an idiot then... you date a girl thats illegal, have sex with her, and then knock her up, you deserve some consequences. maybe not jail, but something




all i have to say is fuck that kid if he wants an abortion if he can be man enough to fuck someone then be man enough to take the responibilities that comes with the consequences of having sex if you think your mature enough to make adult choices like that then be mature enough to take responsibility for the action that occurs afterwards. running away and taking the easy way out so you can save your own ass @ the extent of a childs life is such utter bullshit your friends a bitch ass


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at that point...i think...it really is not entirely the male sides choice hell..if the girl wants to get an abortion it would be for obvious reasons right...not just because the dude is pressuring her...so really i'd say the big choice is in the chicks hand on the abortion .....and i'd say the longer you wait on a decision like that..the worse it is(as far as like...fetal development and all that)

which would you have...a girl have an abortion..or the girl have a child and the child end up dying due to neglect&malnutrition(which does happen pretty often)

i guess at that point it depends on the maturity of the ones who...were to "concieve" the possibly aborted child.

yupyup
still support stem cells guys, i do.






i never said it was soley the males decicions just in this case he makes it sound as if the male is the one who wants the procedure done and if thats the case hes an idiot...yes stem cell research is a great thing i think everyone SHOULD support it i dont condone the use of aborted feteus but if they are already dead then dont allow their death to be in vain use whats available.


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Posted 11/16/06
something most of these behind-glass people on here dont realize, as theyve never dealt with it growing up in loving and wonderful (and rich!) home, as did their friends...

adoption doesnt work like it should:
man kids NEVER get adopted
orphanages and group homes arent the fun places you see in movies. they scar people in horrible ways, for life
people that DO get adopted are often taken from the only people they know, and this scars them as well
most people that get adopted are into families who shouldnt have kids in the first place, already have so many they will be neglected, or they will be tossed around from foster to foster.

if adoption worked, then i would be mostly against abortion. but it doesnt. and i think its selfish of the pro-lifers to try to force their dislike of abortion on to others. you dont like abortion? dont abort. dont be with someone that would abort. but its not your body, not your child, and not your life to rule over.

kill lots of babies. get lots of cells. cure lots of people. and then maybe well have less retards (im quite literally terrified of retarded people. i cant stand them. i think all of them that are more than only mildly retarded should be gassed)
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Listen to people like Micheal J. Fox. He nails this issue right on the head. Stem cells are developed from embryo's that are going to be thrown away anyway. If these embryos are so sacred, where are the fundamentalists protesting their destruction? There are none, because even they don't consider these embryos to be alive. (We are talking about microscopic cells). If these cells, which are going to be destroyed anyway, can be used to cure disease, it is worth researching them.
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Abortion is an entirely different issue. Stem cells are not harvested from aborted fetuses, if anyone tells you this, they are lying. A zygote is created in a lab (in a petri dish) and frozen. If the donors wish it, this zygote can be implanted into a host mother, the zygote will develop into a embryo and eventually a baby. Every year, thousands of these zygotes outlive their "shelf-life" and are thrown away. This is where stem cells come from.
Posted 11/16/06

Righteousbros wrote:

Listen to people like Micheal J. Fox. He nails this issue right on the head. Stem cells are developed from embryo's that are going to be thrown away anyway. If these embryos are so sacred, where are the fundamentalists protesting their destruction? There are none, because even they don't consider these embryos to be alive. (We are talking about microscopic cells). If these cells, which are going to be destroyed anyway, can be used to cure disease, it is worth researching them.


although i agreee.....
FUCK michael j fox he made teenwolf


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Posted 11/16/06

kyocool wrote:


Righteousbros wrote:

Listen to people like Micheal J. Fox. He nails this issue right on the head. Stem cells are developed from embryo's that are going to be thrown away anyway. If these embryos are so sacred, where are the fundamentalists protesting their destruction? There are none, because even they don't consider these embryos to be alive. (We are talking about microscopic cells). If these cells, which are going to be destroyed anyway, can be used to cure disease, it is worth researching them.


although i agreee.....
FUCK michael j fox he made teenwolf


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teenwolf? never heard of it but it sounds kinda gay.

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log already said that is not the case and he is studying to be a doctor. I trust him over the sly fox.
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Posted 11/16/06
I believe stem cell research shouldn't be subsidized by government. The government can not take sides in sensitive matters like this. Stem cell research should be done on the budgets of private companies.
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I agree but yet disagree. Slavery was done on the sides of private companies and the government stopped that. Are you saying they should have let it continue
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