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Alright! =] let's give this another chance because it's one of the few interesting threads around nowadays =/
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when was the last time you heard that some Christian fanatics are trying to make their crusades? Or kill someone for not having the same religion...I didn't hear anything of that kind.


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i have only taken a small part of you post and the answer is not very long ago infact it was about 10-15 years ago, heard of the I.R.A (people fighting over christainity and the true religon (protestants and cathlics) is still happening in ireland, even if it is not as intensified).Ever wonder why london has more cameras than the rest of the world combined (if did not know that now you do), it because of the I.R.A
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Meh, guess I better start things off then

I think of Islam like I do any other religion - if its moderate, its fine. If its extremist then I dont care what religion they are (although they're mostly either Muslim or Christian), I dont like it. I'm an Atheist myself, and I don't like the idea of organized religion in general, but I have no problems with people who can practice their religious beliefs without either:
1) Trying constantly to convert (or 'save') other people by constantly harrasing/bugging them about it (one girl spent 3 hours trying to make me a Christian over MSN once...) or, worse, preeching/resorting to violence.

2) Brainwashing children into believing that their religion and ONLY their religion is right, and everyone else are infidels/scum/going to hell/deserve to die/etc.etc.

I do think that Islamic groups could try and put a stop to the spread of extremist thoughts though, something thats becoming more of a problem in the UK and other places...
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It can get very heated in religion threads, so I can appreciate where you are coming from. I accept your apology. While respecting everyone and their choices, we may be able to answer any questions about Islam or Muslims.
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jasamaja wrote:

Hmm...I guess I overdid it that day, I was just terribly mad...and dreamer, when I was saying Muslims, I mentioned it in almost all of my posts, that I'm referring to the orthodox and radical one's. I was using the word Muslim for an universalization, I was sarcastically referring to the one's that pretend to be Muslim and stuff, what made me definitely mad was that some wannabe Muslim called me sharmuta??!! For my opinions, though I pointed out the fact that I'm talking about orthodox Muslims and radical one's, and that made me start to terribly cuss, I know it's wrong, but the childish arguments some of you took out, were just making me laugh. And when I called the Quran the book of evil, I was referring to the fact that that book is written in a troublesome way, so that everybody can interpret it the way he wants to, as for making out of this Holy book the book of War or Evil..., I thought as a good Muslim you would automatically comprehend that I was referring to the Muslim-pretenders....but no, you took it personal..and misunderstood my words, and didn't get the sarcasm in them.

and yes I really cussed too much =O. I normally don't cuss..., but as I said I was in terrible mood, after hearing that some other wannabe-Muslims killed some innocent Buddhists, or any other kind of innocent person.., and still, this won't excuse the fact that most of the radicals are so-called Muslims. It is definitely not my fault that it is your religion that is attracting the aggressive and radical people like shit attracts flies..., and now please don't compare it to Christianity, I don't know why you people automatically assume that I'm Christian, cuz I really ain't. I think the same about Christians, they also had a bad past, but now they are doing their best, or when was the last time you heard that some Christian fanatics are trying to make their crusades? Or kill someone for not having the same religion...I didn't hear anything of that kind.

Anyways, I will apologize for my bad words, and for my bad formulation, I should have made that more clear that I wasn't referring to the average Muslim, but to the radical and orthodox one's, and to all this Muslim-pretenders, that use the Qurans words only for their own good, and excuse...and so on......
And I will also apologize to the thread-maker of the last Muslim thread, dreamer580, sorry, for getting your thread locked

So, I made another Muslim thread, this one, and well, I hope that this one might survive=D, and also I hope that the Muslim-haters refrain from the stuff I did=O

So, please keep it on a good level, and try to make your opinions clear, so that there won't be any misunderstandings, like there were in the last thread..., and also respect each others opinions. You can't force someone to believe the same thing or having the same opinion or view on something...
w/e that's all I have to say for the moment

Flo~


what does sharmuta mean? because i think i have a clue

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^ I was just asking myself that
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jasamaja wrote:

Hmm...I guess I overdid it that day, I was just terribly mad...and dreamer, when I was saying Muslims, I mentioned it in almost all of my posts, that I'm referring to the orthodox and radical one's. I was using the word Muslim for an universalization, I was sarcastically referring to the one's that pretend to be Muslim and stuff, what made me definitely mad was that some wannabe Muslim called me sharmuta??!! For my opinions, though I pointed out the fact that I'm talking about orthodox Muslims and radical one's, and that made me start to terribly cuss, I know it's wrong, but the childish arguments some of you took out, were just making me laugh. And when I called the Quran the book of evil, I was referring to the fact that that book is written in a troublesome way, so that everybody can interpret it the way he wants to, as for making out of this Holy book the book of War or Evil..., I thought as a good Muslim you would automatically comprehend that I was referring to the Muslim-pretenders....but no, you took it personal..and misunderstood my words, and didn't get the sarcasm in them.

and yes I really cussed too much =O. I normally don't cuss..., but as I said I was in terrible mood, after hearing that some other wannabe-Muslims killed some innocent Buddhists, or any other kind of innocent person.., and still, this won't excuse the fact that most of the radicals are so-called Muslims. It is definitely not my fault that it is your religion that is attracting the aggressive and radical people like shit attracts flies..., and now please don't compare it to Christianity, I don't know why you people automatically assume that I'm Christian, cuz I really ain't. I think the same about Christians, they also had a bad past, but now they are doing their best, or when was the last time you heard that some Christian fanatics are trying to make their crusades? Or kill someone for not having the same religion...I didn't hear anything of that kind.

Anyways, I will apologize for my bad words, and for my bad formulation, I should have made that more clear that I wasn't referring to the average Muslim, but to the radical and orthodox one's, and to all this Muslim-pretenders, that use the Qurans words only for their own good, and excuse...and so on......
And I will also apologize to the thread-maker of the last Muslim thread, dreamer580, sorry, for getting your thread locked

So, I made another Muslim thread, this one, and well, I hope that this one might survive=D, and also I hope that the Muslim-haters refrain from the stuff I did=O

So, please keep it on a good level, and try to make your opinions clear, so that there won't be any misunderstandings, like there were in the last thread..., and also respect each others opinions. You can't force someone to believe the same thing or having the same opinion or view on something...
w/e that's all I have to say for the moment

Flo~


what does sharmuta mean? because i think i have a clue




Sharmuta is Arabic for slut/whore
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aminasahra wrote:


jasamaja wrote:

Hmm...I guess I overdid it that day, I was just terribly mad...and dreamer, when I was saying Muslims, I mentioned it in almost all of my posts, that I'm referring to the orthodox and radical one's. I was using the word Muslim for an universalization, I was sarcastically referring to the one's that pretend to be Muslim and stuff, what made me definitely mad was that some wannabe Muslim called me sharmuta??!! For my opinions, though I pointed out the fact that I'm talking about orthodox Muslims and radical one's, and that made me start to terribly cuss, I know it's wrong, but the childish arguments some of you took out, were just making me laugh. And when I called the Quran the book of evil, I was referring to the fact that that book is written in a troublesome way, so that everybody can interpret it the way he wants to, as for making out of this Holy book the book of War or Evil..., I thought as a good Muslim you would automatically comprehend that I was referring to the Muslim-pretenders....but no, you took it personal..and misunderstood my words, and didn't get the sarcasm in them.

and yes I really cussed too much =O. I normally don't cuss..., but as I said I was in terrible mood, after hearing that some other wannabe-Muslims killed some innocent Buddhists, or any other kind of innocent person.., and still, this won't excuse the fact that most of the radicals are so-called Muslims. It is definitely not my fault that it is your religion that is attracting the aggressive and radical people like shit attracts flies..., and now please don't compare it to Christianity, I don't know why you people automatically assume that I'm Christian, cuz I really ain't. I think the same about Christians, they also had a bad past, but now they are doing their best, or when was the last time you heard that some Christian fanatics are trying to make their crusades? Or kill someone for not having the same religion...I didn't hear anything of that kind.

Anyways, I will apologize for my bad words, and for my bad formulation, I should have made that more clear that I wasn't referring to the average Muslim, but to the radical and orthodox one's, and to all this Muslim-pretenders, that use the Qurans words only for their own good, and excuse...and so on......
And I will also apologize to the thread-maker of the last Muslim thread, dreamer580, sorry, for getting your thread locked

So, I made another Muslim thread, this one, and well, I hope that this one might survive=D, and also I hope that the Muslim-haters refrain from the stuff I did=O

So, please keep it on a good level, and try to make your opinions clear, so that there won't be any misunderstandings, like there were in the last thread..., and also respect each others opinions. You can't force someone to believe the same thing or having the same opinion or view on something...
w/e that's all I have to say for the moment

Flo~


what does sharmuta mean? because i think i have a clue




yah like zero said sharmuta mean slut whore or bitch

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bleaichigo wrote:


aminasahra wrote:


jasamaja wrote:

Hmm...I guess I overdid it that day, I was just terribly mad...and dreamer, when I was saying Muslims, I mentioned it in almost all of my posts, that I'm referring to the orthodox and radical one's. I was using the word Muslim for an universalization, I was sarcastically referring to the one's that pretend to be Muslim and stuff, what made me definitely mad was that some wannabe Muslim called me sharmuta??!! For my opinions, though I pointed out the fact that I'm talking about orthodox Muslims and radical one's, and that made me start to terribly cuss, I know it's wrong, but the childish arguments some of you took out, were just making me laugh. And when I called the Quran the book of evil, I was referring to the fact that that book is written in a troublesome way, so that everybody can interpret it the way he wants to, as for making out of this Holy book the book of War or Evil..., I thought as a good Muslim you would automatically comprehend that I was referring to the Muslim-pretenders....but no, you took it personal..and misunderstood my words, and didn't get the sarcasm in them.

and yes I really cussed too much =O. I normally don't cuss..., but as I said I was in terrible mood, after hearing that some other wannabe-Muslims killed some innocent Buddhists, or any other kind of innocent person.., and still, this won't excuse the fact that most of the radicals are so-called Muslims. It is definitely not my fault that it is your religion that is attracting the aggressive and radical people like shit attracts flies..., and now please don't compare it to Christianity, I don't know why you people automatically assume that I'm Christian, cuz I really ain't. I think the same about Christians, they also had a bad past, but now they are doing their best, or when was the last time you heard that some Christian fanatics are trying to make their crusades? Or kill someone for not having the same religion...I didn't hear anything of that kind.

Anyways, I will apologize for my bad words, and for my bad formulation, I should have made that more clear that I wasn't referring to the average Muslim, but to the radical and orthodox one's, and to all this Muslim-pretenders, that use the Qurans words only for their own good, and excuse...and so on......
And I will also apologize to the thread-maker of the last Muslim thread, dreamer580, sorry, for getting your thread locked

So, I made another Muslim thread, this one, and well, I hope that this one might survive=D, and also I hope that the Muslim-haters refrain from the stuff I did=O

So, please keep it on a good level, and try to make your opinions clear, so that there won't be any misunderstandings, like there were in the last thread..., and also respect each others opinions. You can't force someone to believe the same thing or having the same opinion or view on something...
w/e that's all I have to say for the moment

Flo~


what does sharmuta mean? because i think i have a clue




yah like zero said sharmuta mean slut whore or bitch




thanks. even though i kind of knew that. i just wanted to make sure.

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^^ np happy to help
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/\ np

btw jasamaja, why did that Muslim call you sharmuta anyway? Did they have a reason for it?
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jasamaja wrote:

Hmm...I guess I overdid it that day, I was just terribly mad...and dreamer, when I was saying Muslims, I mentioned it in almost all of my posts, that I'm referring to the orthodox and radical one's. I was using the word Muslim for an universalization, I was sarcastically referring to the one's that pretend to be Muslim and stuff, what made me definitely mad was that some wannabe Muslim called me sharmuta??!! For my opinions, though I pointed out the fact that I'm talking about orthodox Muslims and radical one's, and that made me start to terribly cuss, I know it's wrong, but the childish arguments some of you took out, were just making me laugh. And when I called the Quran the book of evil, I was referring to the fact that that book is written in a troublesome way, so that everybody can interpret it the way he wants to, as for making out of this Holy book the book of War or Evil..., I thought as a good Muslim you would automatically comprehend that I was referring to the Muslim-pretenders....but no, you took it personal..and misunderstood my words, and didn't get the sarcasm in them.

and yes I really cussed too much =O. I normally don't cuss..., but as I said I was in terrible mood, after hearing that some other wannabe-Muslims killed some innocent Buddhists, or any other kind of innocent person.., and still, this won't excuse the fact that most of the radicals are so-called Muslims. It is definitely not my fault that it is your religion that is attracting the aggressive and radical people like shit attracts flies..., and now please don't compare it to Christianity, I don't know why you people automatically assume that I'm Christian, cuz I really ain't. I think the same about Christians, they also had a bad past, but now they are doing their best, or when was the last time you heard that some Christian fanatics are trying to make their crusades? Or kill someone for not having the same religion...I didn't hear anything of that kind.

Edit: Oh, wait, now that someone did remind me of that...the IRA...and stuff in Eire..I don't know how I could have forget about this...wow...I really forgot that..=O (gawd, my brain lags....)

Anyways, I will apologize for my bad words, and for my bad formulation, I should have made that more clear that I wasn't referring to the average Muslim, but to the radical and orthodox one's, and to all this Muslim-pretenders, that use the Qurans words only for their own good, and excuse...and so on......
And I will also apologize to the thread-maker of the last Muslim thread, dreamer580, sorry, for getting your thread locked

So, I made another Muslim thread, this one, and well, I hope that this one might survive=D, and also I hope that the Muslim-haters refrain from the stuff I did=O

So, please keep it on a good level, and try to make your opinions clear, so that there won't be any misunderstandings, like there were in the last thread..., and also respect each others opinions. You can't force someone to believe the same thing or having the same opinion or view on something...
w/e that's all I have to say for the moment

Flo~



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Posted 1/16/08
it's really great you did apologize
islam rocks but it's true in every place there are bad people
and those ((so-called Muslims)) try to destroy islam's good image that's all

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also if you know arabic try to read this it's really cool

http://www.kaheel7.com/book/picture_miracles_1_.pps#280,25,Diapositive 25
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jasamaja wrote:

Hmm...I guess I overdid it that day, I was just terribly mad...and dreamer, when I was saying Muslims, I mentioned it in almost all of my posts, that I'm referring to the orthodox and radical one's. I was using the word Muslim for an universalization, I was sarcastically referring to the one's that pretend to be Muslim and stuff, what made me definitely mad was that some wannabe Muslim called me sharmuta??!! For my opinions, though I pointed out the fact that I'm talking about orthodox Muslims and radical one's, and that made me start to terribly cuss, I know it's wrong, but the childish arguments some of you took out, were just making me laugh. And when I called the Quran the book of evil, I was referring to the fact that that book is written in a troublesome way, so that everybody can interpret it the way he wants to, as for making out of this Holy book the book of War or Evil..., I thought as a good Muslim you would automatically comprehend that I was referring to the Muslim-pretenders....but no, you took it personal..and misunderstood my words, and didn't get the sarcasm in them.

and yes I really cussed too much =O. I normally don't cuss..., but as I said I was in terrible mood, after hearing that some other wannabe-Muslims killed some innocent Buddhists, or any other kind of innocent person.., and still, this won't excuse the fact that most of the radicals are so-called Muslims. It is definitely not my fault that it is your religion that is attracting the aggressive and radical people like shit attracts flies..., and now please don't compare it to Christianity, I don't know why you people automatically assume that I'm Christian, cuz I really ain't. I think the same about Christians, they also had a bad past, but now they are doing their best, or when was the last time you heard that some Christian fanatics are trying to make their crusades? Or kill someone for not having the same religion...I didn't hear anything of that kind.

Edit: Oh, wait, now that someone did remind me of that...the IRA...and stuff in Eire..I don't know how I could have forget about this...wow...I really forgot that..=O (gawd, my brain lags....)

Anyways, I will apologize for my bad words, and for my bad formulation, I should have made that more clear that I wasn't referring to the average Muslim, but to the radical and orthodox one's, and to all this Muslim-pretenders, that use the Qurans words only for their own good, and excuse...and so on......
And I will also apologize to the thread-maker of the last Muslim thread, dreamer580, sorry, for getting your thread locked

So, I made another Muslim thread, this one, and well, I hope that this one might survive=D, and also I hope that the Muslim-haters refrain from the stuff I did=O

So, please keep it on a good level, and try to make your opinions clear, so that there won't be any misunderstandings, like there were in the last thread..., and also respect each others opinions. You can't force someone to believe the same thing or having the same opinion or view on something...
w/e that's all I have to say for the moment

Flo~



one question how do you know she's a wannabe muslim ?


jasamaja you dint answer me

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