First  Prev  1  2  Next  Last
Default The decline of seinen/serious anime?
Posted 7/20/11 , edited 7/20/11
The last half a decade, I've seen almost no titles with a darker themes and mature plots such as Monster, or Berserk. The only one's I've seen are titles such as Darker than Black, Rainbow, Claymore, and Roberta's blood trail. I would note Hellsing ultimate, but it's been releasing like a snail since 2006.

Are we looking towards the end of anime companies targeting an older market? I've been waiting for something refreshing for a couple years, but it seems as though the industry gives the 20-30 market almost zero attention. Deadman wonderland came close with it's violence and theme, but I just couldn't see it as being "grown up" in the same sense you would look at an anime such as say cowboy bebop.

Imo, some amazing manga that would make great mature seinen would be works such as Biomega, and Vagabond.

So what's everyone's thoughts on this on this subject?



75430 cr points
Send Message: Send PM GB Post
49 / F / Center of the Uni...
Offline
Posted 7/20/11
Not much out there for the 30+ market either.

although some of the titles you think of as old. are pretty new to me. I'm sure it will cycle back. as companies try and figure what sells.notice someonelse is selling a certain of anime, copy that and create a glut of that type, someone else tries something 'new', answering a hunger for something different from the sameness, others notice this 'new' is making money... copy... rinse, repeat.
58662 cr points
Send Message: Send PM GB Post
30 / M / Dallas, TX
Online
Posted 7/20/11
I think this has always been the case, actually. The two titles you mentioned were produced over six years apart (Berserk in '97 and Monster in '04), so it isn't like their from some Golden Age where we had a glut of seinen titles.

Anime is still a business, so obviously there will be more attention given to stuff that sells well, and I'd guess that isn't titles aimed at 20-30 year-old males.
66778 cr points
Send Message: Send PM GB Post
31 / M / Lagrange, KY
Offline
Posted 7/20/11
doesn't really matter to me and violence doesn't make a show. Characters, plot/story, music and flow make for a good show, but agian this is from a reviewer's point of view. Having a dark or edgy plot is nice but hmm you should try index season II the later half it goes from happy to luck to .. shit just got real in sense. There are also the remakes of the evangelion movies that are already out and the ones that are coming still coming out, but hell I like shows like higurashi and umineko are good but that's just my fan-boy speaking... any how watch some clips from index II below.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pREOMmhHyU8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZiqlfAPmjsg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UaUmhhcOSoo
17342 cr points
Send Message: Send PM GB Post
M / Crapsack World
Offline
Posted 7/20/11
Here's a relevant quote from Clannad:

"This world favors comedy. Serious stuff don't get much attention." - Youhei Sunohara, Clannad the motion Picture

11243 cr points
Send Message: Send PM GB Post
25 / M / BC, Canada =P
Offline
Posted 7/20/11
Its similar to the survival horror genre in video games, Seinen with 18+ years old character is a dying genre ...
66778 cr points
Send Message: Send PM GB Post
31 / M / Lagrange, KY
Offline
Posted 7/20/11

andydono wrote:

Its similar to the survival horror genre in video games, Seinen with 18+ years old character is a dying genre ...


the age shouldn't matter it's well what I have stated before... hmm well here have a .gif
33 cr points
Send Message: Send PM GB Post
F
Offline
Posted 7/20/11
Seinen's target audience is older than that of shounen, and that audience generally have less time to spend on entertainment because they're working or studying,. Of course, that's only a generalization, but because this is true for the majority of that demographic, companies would be less willing to spend money on something that will sell less.

Shame, too, since Seinen is probably my second favourite genre
11243 cr points
Send Message: Send PM GB Post
25 / M / BC, Canada =P
Offline
Posted 7/20/11 , edited 7/20/11

Cecilthedarkknight234 wrote:

the age shouldn't matter it's well what I have stated before... hmm well here have a .gif


Doesn't change the fact that it IS dying .
66778 cr points
Send Message: Send PM GB Post
31 / M / Lagrange, KY
Offline
Posted 7/20/11

andydono wrote:


Cecilthedarkknight234 wrote:

the age shouldn't matter it's well what I have stated before... hmm well here have a .gif


Doesn't change the fact that it IS dying .


hmm... i think it will be fine, but what alot of people are forgetting is the fact or the amount of exposure we have to anime now compared to 10 hell even 5 years ago. We are seeing things in greater quantity than i am used to when I was growing up, hell I remember the only way to watch anime in the 90's was to watch it on t.v. or buy outragelsy priced VHS tapes with dubbed only episodes. There is also the fact they changed the age of the characters to say they are older when they didn't happen to be true... hmm I would recommend blood-c, beserker is getting a movie adaption, and higurashi is getting more ova's, for those that like "dark deep anime" there are always going to be some out there, if anyone in the states has net flix then your set with corpse princess and a bunch of other titles.
Ghost Moderator
AHTL 
87723 cr points
Send Message: Send PM GB Post
27 / Norway
Online
Posted 7/20/11
We keep hearing about "X is dying", when the truth is - it is not. Seinen/serious anime just don't come out that often, it is not a niche that is very popular. Less than serious anime shows will always be more popular, as they are easier to watch and "digest" - and lets face it, the majority of anime viewers are people around 12-17 years old - and in all likelihood most of them are not interested in seinen/serious anime shows.

Ecchi, comedy, action-adventure and such will always be the more popular.
58662 cr points
Send Message: Send PM GB Post
30 / M / Dallas, TX
Online
Posted 7/20/11

iluvanimes wrote:

Shame, too, since Seinen is probably my second favourite genre


Except it's not a genre, it's a demographic.

Cecilthedarkknight234: Some anime was released on VHS with subs, but they were generally more expensive than the dubbed tapes, from what I gather.
66778 cr points
Send Message: Send PM GB Post
31 / M / Lagrange, KY
Offline
Posted 7/20/11

eyeofpain wrote:


iluvanimes wrote:

Shame, too, since Seinen is probably my second favourite genre


Except it's not a genre, it's a demographic.

Cecilthedarkknight234: Some anime was released on VHS with subs, but they were generally more expensive than the dubbed tapes, from what I gather.


hmm your right, but at the time i only took the options i had, there as laser disc.. but we all know long that lasted lol
2340 cr points
Send Message: Send PM GB Post
M
Offline
Posted 7/20/11
I am inclined to think that seinen anime/manga aren't dying. They are just simply overshadowed by the more popular series' and franchises that are targeted towards a younger audience. Ultimately, it all comes down to popularity.

I agree with AHTL, it is a niche that clearly doesn't appeal to the majority. But that doesn't necessarily equate to the death of serious anime/manga. Sadly, young adults are the most targeted demographic. The heads of the industry, those who make money, will always try and beat the cash cow. In this case, it is all about appealing to a younger audience. The way I see it, if the majority show no interest in Seinen/serious anime and manga, then clearly that isn't the way to go to make money.

Don't mistake any of this as decline. It is just that Shonen/less serious anime simply take precedence over the more mature demographic.
58662 cr points
Send Message: Send PM GB Post
30 / M / Dallas, TX
Online
Posted 7/20/11

Cecilthedarkknight234 wrote:

hmm your right, but at the time i only took the options i had, there as laser disc.. but we all know long that lasted lol


Hey man, just you wait; LDs are coming back around.
First  Prev  1  2  Next  Last
You must be logged in to post.