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Who is in the Coffin?
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Posted 7/29/11 , edited 7/29/11
Post who you think is in Kabuto's Impure World Resurrection coffin that he showed to Madara...

It shocked Madara, so I personally don't think it's someone we've seen before. It obviously has to be someone strong though. I heard a lot of people think it's Minato, but I think Pain was stronger, and the first Hokage didn't seem that fearsome. The 4th Raikage's speed also rivals Minato's and he's still alive. It can't be Madara because the technique summons the soul....Madara's soul is still 'alive' in a body. It might be Madara's brother, though.

I personally think it might be the Sage of 6 Paths.
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Izuna Uchiha (Madara's Brother)
the True Madara Uchiha if the one we are seeing isn't Madara but using Madara's name.

can't be Minato, or any Hokage for that matter, the 1st 4 are not in the after life, and the 5th is still alive

sadly I don't think it's the SoSP since there would be no point in joining forces with Madara if he had the Sage.
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I'm pretty sure the Madara we are seeing is the real one, just in a different state because he's weakened (he demonstrated a vast amount of knowledge and expertise in all kinds of jutsu). I'm kinda split between Izuna and the sage. I think I want it to be the sage so I can see his godly powers.

I think the combined might of the ninja alliance thing is enough to take on the sage, so Kabuto can't rely on just him. Who knows...? I really hope it's the sage lol
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I would say Madara or his brother.

But all I know is, the 6th coffin could be my long dead grandma maybe that is why he was total shock xD
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Morbidhanson wrote:

I'm pretty sure the Madara we are seeing is the real one, just in a different state because he's weakened (he demonstrated a vast amount of knowledge and expertise in all kinds of jutsu). I'm kinda split between Izuna and the sage. I think I want it to be the sage so I can see his godly powers.

I think the combined might of the ninja alliance thing is enough to take on the sage, so Kabuto can't rely on just him. Who knows...? I really hope it's the sage lol


any one can show that kind of knowledge the information on the Sage is found in the Uchiha's hidden archives, he can easily deceive everyone and claim to be Madara, until it's shown that he is truely Madara it's not proven, after all any Uchiha can gain access to the archives, some beleive that this current Madara is actually another Uchiha who has worked with Danzo, Hiruzen, and the other two elders back when Hiruzen was made Hokage by Tobirama the 2nd Hokage, which is why Tobi was used as an alias.

as I was saying Kabuto wouldn't have joined Madara if he had the SoSP he would just dominate Madara due to Madara not even being close to the Sages fighting abilities

odds are either it's Izuna or Madara
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I think it's the 'real' Madara that's currently weak or something.
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Posted 7/30/11 , edited 7/30/11

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Morbidhanson wrote:

I'm pretty sure the Madara we are seeing is the real one, just in a different state because he's weakened (he demonstrated a vast amount of knowledge and expertise in all kinds of jutsu). I'm kinda split between Izuna and the sage. I think I want it to be the sage so I can see his godly powers.

I think the combined might of the ninja alliance thing is enough to take on the sage, so Kabuto can't rely on just him. Who knows...? I really hope it's the sage lol


any one can show that kind of knowledge the information on the Sage is found in the Uchiha's hidden archives, he can easily deceive everyone and claim to be Madara, until it's shown that he is truely Madara it's not proven, after all any Uchiha can gain access to the archives, some beleive that this current Madara is actually another Uchiha who has worked with Danzo, Hiruzen, and the other two elders back when Hiruzen was made Hokage by Tobirama the 2nd Hokage, which is why Tobi was used as an alias.

as I was saying Kabuto wouldn't have joined Madara if he had the SoSP he would just dominate Madara due to Madara not even being close to the Sages fighting abilities

odds are either it's Izuna or Madara


Hmmm, but I personally think his possession of eternal mangekyou sharingan is proof he is the real Madara and just wanted to stay hidden for a while when he called himself Tobi. Madara (or Tobi, if you still don't think he is real), even in his current (weakened) state, is more powerful than Sasuke, more powerful than any of the Sannin, and able to fight on par with kage-level opponents. 'Tobi' has done a lot of stuff to prove he is really Madara. If he isn't the 'real' Madara, the storywriters would be throwing a real bad wrench out there by suddenly revealing such an unknown and powerful, important character who has been pretending to be someone else all along. Who else would he be unless the 'Madara' we knew now is really Izuna? Even then, it wouldn't matter because he wouldn't be afraid of someone he surpassed (now that he has a rinnegan)

Indeed, Madara is most likely weaker than the sage, but if Kabuto made the sage fight and defeat Madara, that would tip the scales of power in the war and I'm pretty sure the combined might of the alliance is enough to defeat the sage. We still don't know what Kabuto is up to, anyway. His true goal is probably not to beat Madara, but something else, something sneaky. Kabuto doesn't seemed concerned about the infinite tsukuyomi plan even though it would affect him if Madara succeeds. I think this is because he has some sort of counter to the plan, namely, the sage. Because the alliance probably stands a chance against the sage, Kabuto might want to join with Madara so that they can beat the 5 nations first, before he backstabs Madara.

The archives could be accessed by Itachi as well, and Itachi didn't talk about the sage. Anyway, Madara didn't mention the sage, he just showed great shock when he saw who was in the coffin. It is entirely possible he knows about the sage and his stories, thus, recognized him as being a huge threat. In fact, he probably does. How else would he know to get the ten-tails from the moon? I think he knows about the sage and that the sage is the only person capable of completely ruining his plans by dealing with the tailed beasts once Madara manages to collect them. This is why he couldn't refuse Kabuto's offer.

Even if it was his brother, it was said that Madara and his brother were equally powerful. Now that Madara has the Rinnegan, he probably would be stronger than his brother, who hadn't improved since he died. And it can't be Madara if the real one is already here because the resurrection technique requires the soul of the deceased in order to work.

Of course, I still think Izuna and the sage are the two most likely candidates.
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We don't know for sure if Kabuto wants the five Nation defeated or not, Kabuto's goals are not the same as Madara's, after Madara gained the Rinnagan, Kabuto started to sweat and get worried and knows the only reason Madara doesn't kill him now is because the Edo Tensei is weaking the alliance forces, if not for that he would despoised of Kabuto already, I'm afraid it's Madara that is using Kabuto right now and not Kabuto using Madara, this is also the reason why Kabuto wants to capture and gain control of Naruto, because he knows that Naruto is the only alliance member who could beat madara, that sixth coffin as you call it is no longer Kabuto's trump card against Madara
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Posted 7/30/11 , edited 7/30/11
Haha, that sucks. Well, I hope Kabuto dies. He has been annoying ever since he first appeared lol

IMO, Madara should just kill Kabuto now because I read somewhere that Edo Tensei doesn't dispel even if the caster dies.
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Posted 7/31/11
I'm guessing the real Madara, and that Tobi-Madara's actually an imposter somehow.
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Morbidhanson wrote:

Haha, that sucks. Well, I hope Kabuto dies. He has been annoying ever since he first appeared lol

IMO, Madara should just kill Kabuto now because I read somewhere that Edo Tensei doesn't dispel even if the caster dies.


We don't know for sure if it stays up, it's claimed never to dispel but it's to risky to kill Kabuto now if it does dispel if the user dies it would weaken Madara's military might, which is something he doesn't want atm
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woa. nice to see im not the only one thinking about it this much.
you have all nammed most the points that there is to name.
idk about the sage. hes pretty old. kabuto haveing found sage DNA would be pretty hard.
he got deidara's though...and he turned himself into a bomb. so maybe its possible...
i thinking sage, madaras brother, or (if hes not the real madara) madara.
but the coffin isnt important anymore. cause as previously stated. now that madara has his rinnegan the coffin is no longer a trump card. they might as well tell us who it is.
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I think its Madara's Brother, cuz how would reviving his own body work if he's technically alive, Can't be any of the Hokages due to the Death Seal. The way that Madara reacted to this it's probably Izuna Uchiha. I wonder what would happen if he is revived xD
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I agree with it being either the "real" Madara (having read another thread that goes by the unmasking of Tobi) or Madara's brother. Only they would make logical sense given what we know in the story.

For Tobi (I'll be referring to the masked guy as Tobi) to be shocked and implying that Kabuto knows about something critical, that could very well be real body of Madara. If that wasn't the case, the brother would be next in line.

I also recall the part where Tobi fought with Konan to retrieve the Rinnegan. He stated that by fighting with the First Hokage, "2 of the 6 paths have become one". We know that Tobi's goal is to gather all the tailed beast to form the ten-tailed beast and become its jinchuuriki, something that was explained earlier that So6P was formerly the host of the ten-tails. From the statement above, he still needs the "other 4 paths" to make the 6 and at least be on par with the strength of the original So6P capable of hosting the ten-tails.

So the body in the coffin may be one of those paths whose candidacy is limited.
Posted 8/5/11
I agree with most comments.

Kabuto seems to be after the meaning behind ninjutsu or the uchiha's ninjutsu and wants a fresh live uchiha to experiment on. Which means he must have found a uchiha that surprised him because madara may have used his technique to teleport and place the body of that uchiha somewhere no one can get it except him and somehow kabuto knows where to look.

So it maybe Izuna.
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