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Who is in the Coffin?
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Posted 8/6/11
It could be his brother however, I don't think the evidence points to this. Instead I suggest it is Marada's own body. Why? First there is the issue of his age, how is he still alive? I think several of the Konoha's Jonnin and the Kage's from the other villages have questioned his existence. Even Madara indicates he is not alive. There is the time when Madara stops Sasuke on his way to Konoha to tell Sasuke Naruto has defeated Pain. Once Sasuke leaves Madara comments to Zetsu that he wished Pain had saved his resurrection jutsu for "me" Madara himself. "But to use Rinne Tensei like that. It was supposed to be for me. What a betrayal." And in this episode note the conversation, Madara: "Where did you get that" Kabuto "I Have my ways" but don't worry I haven't told anyone yet. This indicates the threat is more in the existence and knowledge of what was in the last coffin. If it was a summon that could defeat Madara, why would it matter if others knew. It indicates the threat is in the secret. It could be an assumption on Kabuto's part. He found Madara's corpse and thinks that Madara is a fake. However he may not have considered that Madara's Sharingan could possibly grant life after death of a sort. Which would be why Madara laughs, not because he never expected Kabuto to progress that far but he realizes Kabuto's flaw, the assumption that Madara is fake when he only lacks a his body.

The rest of the theory would be a spoiler for those that haven't read the manga so I will not say in detail. But for those that have think about the nature of Madara's ability as indicated in the next 10 episodes or so when they flash back to a fight with a certain past Hokage. Which is noted as being similar to that Hokage's ability. Because of that nature it's possible that he is only a genjitsu created by his own sharingan, only a guess though. However there is also support that genjitsu can persist through death given by Itachi by way of the thing he puts in Naruto's eye in case Sasuke attacks Konoha. The exact details would be also be a spoiler for the non-readers.

It could also be possible as others have indicated that Tobi is not actually Madara, which would also be possibly a big secret that would disrupt his plans. I hadn't thought of that but it seems like a twist Kishimoto would write. However I still think the evidence about his comments relating to the Gedo Rinne Tensei points to Madara being dead already. Admittedly I don't know it could also be that part of his plan, assuming it's a fake or living madara, could have to die for some part of his plan to work and he would need to be resurrected or something. But that seems kind of weak as a setup.
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Hm, but Edo Tensei can only revive someone if the person's soul is available to be revived. This is why I find it dubious that the "real" Madara could be revived. It doesn't matter if the person is already dead as long as their soul is somewhere where Edo Tensei cannot take it to push it into a sacrificial body (ie. in the real world and alive in another body, OR sealed away elsewhere). Orochimaru's soul transfers are one example. His first body is dead, but nobody would be able to revive him with Edo Tensei because his soul has another body to inhabit so he is technically 'alive.' He is also sealed away in another dimension, disallowing access to his soul anyway.

I also think there is no "real" Madara because he has already revealed himself, and the name 'Tobi' was just something he could hide himself with. He is no longer trying to hide himself, and we can already see that he has the eternal Mangekyou Sharingan and an incredible amount of knowledge that would be unavailable to most possible imposters. To me, that is proof he is the real deal. This most likely leaves Izuna and the Sage as possible resurrection targets.
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Posted 8/31/11
i think maybe the one weve been seing is not the whole guy. but his more physical body is in that coffin
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Posted 9/1/11
we will find out soon enough who it is, most people answer this question with Izuna, Madara or the SoSP, truthfully only Kishi knows the true answer...
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Posted 9/1/11

Dame, Now I know I'm not the only one who catch on the clues in the anime/manga to back up proof of who is who.

From what I read, just remember this. Kishi can trail us.

I mean, Neji was once an amazing ninja, making the Byakugan unstoppable, but after the tourament. Kishi trooled him as in. Put him as side n put Sasuke, Itachi, Madara into the picture.

But anyways, these are good proof ^^
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Posted 9/1/11

loqi wrote:

It could be his brother however, I don't think the evidence points to this. Instead I suggest it is Marada's own body. Why? First there is the issue of his age, how is he still alive?

Could be a Technique/Sharingan effect/Chakra similar to how Kakuzu and, if I recall correctly, Onoki and Muu are able to live for so long as well. Using them as proof, it's not a big stretch to say Madara has a similar power (especially since he has Senju and Uchiha DNA thanks to the VotE fight).

I think several of the Konoha's Jonnin and the Kage's from the other villages have questioned his existence.

Though they later believe him... (Kakashi, while at first skeptical, calls him Madara now)

Even Madara indicates he is not alive. There is the time when Madara stops Sasuke on his way to Konoha to tell Sasuke Naruto has defeated Pain. Once Sasuke leaves Madara comments to Zetsu that he wished Pain had saved his resurrection jutsu for "me" Madara himself. "But to use Rinne Tensei like that. It was supposed to be for me. What a betrayal."

Could be that he had planned Nagato to revive the Juubi with that technique + Gedo Mazo (with all 9 tailed beast's) so he could become it's Jinchuuriki.


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Posted 9/5/11
I think it's Namikaze Minato , Naruto's father. Madara felt threatened by it because minato could actually touch him , in other words , minato could use attacks on him
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Posted 9/5/11
can't be Minato, his soul is unaccessable and can't be edo tensai-ed, Kabuto himself stated as such...all the Hokage's are unaccessable due to the reaper-death seal
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Posted 9/5/11
oh yeah..... Well , we'll just have to wait and see. HAHA
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Posted 9/6/11
What if this Madara we're seen is Sauske's father and the coffing holds the real madara!!
What if Sauske father had the power to even full itachi!!
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Posted 9/6/11
what if its danzou
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Posted 9/7/11
Danzo, he's not even a threat for Madara
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Posted 9/8/11
kabuto said something about danzou's right eye
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Posted 9/8/11
about how he wished he got his hands on it, it's Shisui's eye, and he can make Shisui with it's cells using Edo Tensei, Shisui has a power to completely control an opponent with a genjutsu, this would have placed Madara under his control completely since it can't be dispelled this is also the reason Itachi ametrasu-ed the Crow in order to pervent Kabuto or Madara from getting their hands on it...
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Posted 10/12/11
Madara?
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