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Who is in the Coffin?
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Posted 2/8/12

Yep.

I still think that its my grandfather in the coffin, and yes i would shock as hell like Tobi was
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Posted 2/18/12 , edited 2/18/12
Josepi, are Madara and Tobi shown talking with each other in private? Because if not, it might just be a decoy to make people (characters) think they're not the same person.

I personally believe that Tobi is bloodrelated to the Sage of the Six Paths. Maybe even himself with some kind of jutsu related to Orochimaru's, though his personality is more Uchicha like.

He's either the sage, Madara, Izuna or character not mentioned before. Otherwise it wouldn't make any sense.
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Posted 2/19/12
Tobi confirmed it himself that he's not the true Madara when he confronted Naruto just recently, and Onoki who has met the true Madara before comfirmed that the edo Tensei character is in fact the True Madara, which also comes to the conclusion that Tobi can't be Madara because in order to be edo Tensei-ed your Soul needs to be in the Afterlife, ie you need to be dead. if your not dead you can't be edo Tensei-ed, Tobi can possiblily be Kagami Uchiha or Izuna Uchiha both of which where alive back when Madara was, personally I feel it's more possible to be Kagami then Izuna being Tobi but that is speculation
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Posted 2/19/12
It would be kind of typical if it was the real madara. They love trying to throw us for a loop ...
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Posted 2/20/12
yeah the issue is Kishi would have to pretty much discredit half the crap about Edo Tensei if he makes Tobi, Madara since that will counter some of the stuff he's already Stated that Edo Tensei does and can't do, ie Edo Tensei can't bring people back to life if there is no soul to raise which is why the 1st, 2nd, 3rd, and 4th Hokages can't be Edo Tensei-ed due to the Reaper Death Seal those 4 don't have souls, and the living maintain their souls till they are killed in other word Edo Tensei can't Raise someone who's alive or the Jutsu won't work, he needs dna in order to Edo Tensei someone, with out DNA it's not possible ie why Shisui can't be Edo Tensei-ed
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Posted 2/21/12
as said serveral times, i think it would be madara's real body, because it is implied that "tobi" isent the real madara or in his real state.
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Posted 3/5/12 , edited 3/5/12
Wait wasnt Orochimaru going to ressurect he 4th Hokage with Edo Tensei during the chunin exams arc even though he used the reaper death seal to trap part of the nine tails in Naruto which would throw a lot of this speculation to the dogs. Personally I believe that Tobi is some form of the Sage of Six paths who had hoped to create peace through dispersing his power but has gone mad due to the fact that the world has fallen into such horrible choas. No way to know though. He is slowly collecting his former visual jutsu and seemingly reforming his true self. Just a thought. Really dont believe Tobi and Madara are the same. He has the powers of the first and of the Uchiha plus the Rinnengan who does that sound most like from the previous lore Madara....Obito...Madara's Brother (where this idea came from is beyond me)....or the Sage of Six paths.
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Posted 3/6/12

jackadam192 wrote:

Wait wasnt Orochimaru going to ressurect he 4th Hokage with Edo Tensei during the chunin exams arc even though he used the reaper death seal to trap part of the nine tails in Naruto which would throw a lot of this speculation to the dogs. Personally I believe that Tobi is some form of the Sage of Six paths who had hoped to create peace through dispersing his power but has gone mad due to the fact that the world has fallen into such horrible choas. No way to know though. He is slowly collecting his former visual jutsu and seemingly reforming his true self. Just a thought. Really dont believe Tobi and Madara are the same. He has the powers of the first and of the Uchiha plus the Rinnengan who does that sound most like from the previous lore Madara....Obito...Madara's Brother (where this idea came from is beyond me)....or the Sage of Six paths.


Kabuto stated an intersting fact that would prove fruitless even if Orochimaru successfully summoned the coffin labled 4th unless he was raising the 4th Kazekage the summoning would not have worked, without a soul you can't be raised with Edo Tensei, also the Reaper death seal was not what was used to seal the fox into Naruto that was used to cut the Kyubi's chakra in half the 8 Tri-gram Seal a seal orginally created by the Uzumaki was what sealed the fox into Naruto, also the true Madara's power is the closest to the SoSP(Sage of Six Paths) power not Tobi's, Tobi's power pales to compare to Madara's, either you only watch the anime, or you ignored a few facts the manga brought up.
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Posted 3/29/12 , edited 3/29/12
Itachi said that the current Madara is a former shell of his old self.
I see the potential for it being the real body of Uchiha Madara.
I'm not convinced of that though, I am convinced it has to do with the Uchiha clan and it's not going to be a random powerful ninja...
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