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is cr the best anime site?
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Posted 12/9/11
i haven't even watched anime on here yet... probably never will. just like being on the forums with the rest of you geeksters.
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Posted 12/9/11 , edited 12/9/11
theres lots and lots of websites I use. but the funny thing is they all link to.. google video
Posted 12/9/11 , edited 12/9/11

Khaltazar wrote:


varnlestoff wrote:


Khaltazar wrote:

Crunchyroll is the place where all the Anime I care to watch are neatly organized and gathered in one spot and released at the same time each week. There is no other site that can compete with that. They have Naruto Shippuden and Bleach. All of this with no ads for only $60 a year.


Not true at all. Site l regular since 07 has perfect upload reliability for every episode, of every known seasonal lineup, on top of completed series being uploaded quite often. More variety, reliable community, regular creative competitions, and pretty chill mods. The community pretty much regulates itself.

The only negatives are "you deal with the quality can be found", and sharing illegal uploads. But it's not "illegal", because the site isn't uploading anything, just embedding previously uploaded material from other sites.


That is illegal. That is like me downloading movies* from theaters and selling them to others. Yes, those sites get their money from those shows from their gallery of ads. There are a few sites now that compete with CR, but those that do not upload legally are stains and need to be shut down.

Edit: *Movies that others already uploaded to other sites.


Yea direct uploads are illegal, embedding isn't though, even if the embeds showcase ads. Sharing links at least, isn't illegal in the U.S., but there is a push to make it illegal, but not for reasons concerning anime. And the site that I go to has been around since late 06, early 07, and i've been a member there just as long as I've been a member here on CR.

The other is Animesuki, which has been around over a decade now. Again, not illegal, and if anything the site still supports retail purchases more than anything. Unfortunately, you can't get 80% of the anime out there unless you go through illegal fan subs, because legitimate transactions are rarely online, poorly advertised, too expensive, or poor in variety. However, i'm confident plenty of supposed "illegal" sites do more good for the industry than harm.

With boards specifically made to showcase Anime and merchandise collections, it gives motivations to show off and even continue expanding legitimate collections, and brings in far more people to love anime, that otherwise wouldn't even know about it existing, or who would never purchase a 10 hour play through visual novel, for $450.00 English dubbed,.

We have to be realistic, the western market doesn't work together with the eastern market well enough to promote a legitimate distribution of anime. It's a weak system, and so fansubs will continue to grow because there is little "confidence" in legitimacy. Without the "illegal" subset of the whole, there wouldn't be a "whole", because a huge majority of the western market for anime is consumed online, and most of them have never even heard of Crunchyroll

If you shut that market down, the Eastern Anime market will at large LOSE profit because they will be cut off from a massive portion of the market, which acts as word of mouth and generates interest. Crunchyroll provides a MUCH smaller portion of profit to the Anime market than the rest the internet, and digital distribution of anime isn't a "Loss", if 99% of the people consuming wouldn't walk out of their homes to buy a $99 box set to begin with. This is an opportunity to use the illegal market constructively to make a shift, like CR has.

This is why I find it utterly pathetic that one of the forerunners and only hopes for Anime becoming a legitimate medium, really has one of the worst communities, egocentric mods, piled with a bunch of gimmicky features. Now that's a disaster for legitimate progress, and if you had wish of shutting down illegal "stains", you would be doing far more harm than good for Anime.
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Posted 12/9/11
It used to be much better in the past
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Hard to say if this is the best anime site but one of my top favorites along with Funimation and Animeseason.
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It's the only one I've come into contact that was programmed nicely (and not cluttered) and had a good aesthetic.

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Posted 12/9/11 , edited 12/9/11

varnlestoff wrote:
Yea direct uploads are illegal, embedding isn't though, ...

Its a fine thing to pretend that a leech streaming site gets all of its links from stealing links from other sites that did all the illegal part, but if its got a broad catalog, and it has limited loss of access to series after the link goes down from getting caught on the site where the bootleg was uploaded, that means someone connected to the site is uploading. The "just sharing links" boilerplate is a thin legal cover story to pretend that someone else did the uploading.

All you have to do is to spider these sites for their streaming links and report the original sources to the content owners ... there are widely shared links on various sites, but after the shared links get shot down, the sites that respond quickly to takedown alerts from their users have the replacements coming up on the sites and accounts used by their uploader crew.


ZenZaku wrote: I prefer leech streaming site.net personally for anime. I pretty much just here for the forums and Soronowoto.

Don't give URL info for illegal leech streaming sites that compete directly against licensors that support the industry in Japan.

Posted 12/9/11
Can't really say since I don't know many anime sites. This site is borderline good/bad, not the best on the web.
Posted 12/9/11 , edited 12/9/11

agila61 wrote:


varnlestoff wrote:
Yea direct uploads are illegal, embedding isn't though, ...

Its a fine thing to pretend that a leech streaming site gets all of its links from stealing links from other sites that did all the illegal part, but if its got a broad catalog, and it has limited loss of access to series after the link goes down from getting caught on the site where the bootleg was uploaded, that means someone connected to the site is uploading. The "just sharing links" boilerplate is a thin legal cover story to pretend that someone else did the uploading.

All you have to do is to spider these sites for their streaming links and report the original sources to the content owners ... there are widely shared links on various sites, but after the shared links get shot down, the sites that respond quickly to takedown alerts from their users have the replacements coming up on the sites and accounts used by their uploader crew.


ZenZaku wrote: I prefer leech streaming site.net personally for anime. I pretty much just here for the forums and Soronowoto.

Don't give URL info for illegal leech streaming sites that compete directly against licensors that support the industry in Japan.



What? No, it's not leeching or stealing links, it's embedding. The sites who host these videos can turn embedding off. Also, the sites that are getting the most imbeds are themselves, fourth party uploads, who get their episodes from fansubs, who in turn get the videos from uploads in Asia.

Also, please cite any law that states that embedding is illegal in the U.S., or even Asia for the matter, because it's only their law that we are concerned about in this scenario.

If you want to get as close to the original "illegal file upload", you would need to go talk to some fan-sub groups or know the original source directly. Again, information can be made illegal to distribute through licensing, but third party distribution of it can not. Any law you can find about copyright uploads will specifically deal with the original upload, and not further replication, or embedding.

Once it's on the net, the crime has been committed, generally from somebody in Japan. There is no "trail" of crime as defined by law, as for who views the uploaded material and decides to share it, at least, for now. It would be dangerous if that were the case, because then I could go,

HEY! Go to this site dude it has a discount (Insert interesting thing here)

www.Copyright.com

And you would be a criminal for clicking that link, even under deceptive means. Can you not see that this is the same thing as the PROTECT IP bill?

Anyways, that's the legality issues aside. The ethical and moral issues are a little different, and I agree with most people on this site who want to support the content. I just think many of the ideas on here would be more harmful to the industry if made realistic. Shutting down all sites who contain embeds to licensed anime videos would really hurt the industry (See previous comment for that), and that mentality wouldn't fly in 2007, because that would would have been the end of CR right there.
Posted 12/9/11 , edited 12/9/11

agila61 wrote:


varnlestoff wrote:
Yea direct uploads are illegal, embedding isn't though, ...

Its a fine thing to pretend that a leech streaming site gets all of its links from stealing links from other sites that did all the illegal part, but if its got a broad catalog, and it has limited loss of access to series after the link goes down from getting caught on the site where the bootleg was uploaded, that means someone connected to the site is uploading. The "just sharing links" boilerplate is a thin legal cover story to pretend that someone else did the uploading.

All you have to do is to spider these sites for their streaming links and report the original sources to the content owners ... there are widely shared links on various sites, but after the shared links get shot down, the sites that respond quickly to takedown alerts from their users have the replacements coming up on the sites and accounts used by their uploader crew.


ZenZaku wrote: I prefer leech streaming site.net personally for anime. I pretty much just here for the forums and Soronowoto.

Don't give URL info for illegal leech streaming sites that compete directly against licensors that support the industry in Japan.



That's not a URL.

Useful Resource Link

Uniform Resource Locator

Universal Resource Locator,

I don't know how finicky Crunchyroll is, especially for a site that started the same way as those sites these members seem to oppose.

That's no URL I ever seen, and I eat HTML for breastfast, lunch and dinner.

In other words, that member did nothing wrong.

On topic...



IS Crunchyroll the best site for Anime?


Hell No

This site is horrendous, countless Anime keeping getting removed, they ONLY have censored versions of Anime(The FUCK?).

You must sign up for quality resolutions, and the "Free" Trial requires a credit card number? Your joking right? Sony told me not to give out my credit card info. You keep getting pestered for to pay for the service, whenever the Anime selection is far from stellar, it's on the 5.0 scale out of 10.

Paying a subscription for censored Anime is by far one of the stupidest things I ever heard.

Because everyone wants to watch the censored version of Koihime Musou? You're fucking kidding right?

They have an ECCHI list that is censored......smart.

The genres that are missing include....

BiShounen

Shounen-Ai

Shoujo-Ai

BiShoujo-Ai

Hentai(Because its censored, and censored Hentai would be worse than censored Ecchi, which is already dumb)

Magical Girl (Magical Pokaan)

Magical Girlfriend(Think, To Love Ru, Rosario Vampire and Sekirei)

Josei

Josei-Ai

BiJosei

BiSeinen.


And that's not even HALF of what they're missing in their abysmal search.

They don't even have Harem(WTF?!?!?!?!?!)

Not only is Seinen already mature(It's for business men in like their 30's and 40's)

The kid version of Seinen is called Shounen.

The genres and Anime is lacking, the censored Anime is by far retarded, the amount of people who "prefer" a censored over a raw, is the amount of people who are too afraid too admit they masturbate.

It makes NO SENSE to stream Koihime Musou if it's gonna be censored.

I'd facepalm everyone at Crunchyroll if they streamed an uncensored version of Seikon No Qwaser 1 or 2.

They have Queen's Blade.....censored...

It's a hentai anime.....


Moronic, they don't even have a toggle feature for dubs or subs if it's a sub, you're screwed, if its a dub, you're screwed.

I'd NEVER watch a dubbed version of To-Love Ru(Well, To Love Ru is bad anyway, but still).

I'd NEVER watch a subbed version of Dragon Ball(Just as bad as To Love Ru), where the Japanese Goku sounds like Yzma from the Emperor's New School, gross.

I forgot the name of the name of a site, it looks more polished and organized than Crunchyroll.

But had the catalog of Animeseason and Animedreaming.

In other words..... the best of both worlds.

And what I'm trying to say is.

On a scale out of 10 for anime sites.

Crunchyroll is about a 5.5 at best.

Posted 12/9/11
i think it's pretty good, i like the design of it
Posted 12/9/11

theotaku1000 wrote:

i think it's pretty good, i like the design of it


There's plenty of Anime sites with better members, and a cleaner look than Crunchyroll, if you're interested.
Posted 12/9/11

Aero-Mach wrote:


theotaku1000 wrote:

i think it's pretty good, i like the design of it


There's plenty of Anime sites with better members, and a cleaner look than Crunchyroll, if you're interested.


Do you REALLY want to bring in a foreign species to a reliable crop?
Posted 12/9/11

varnlestoff wrote:


Aero-Mach wrote:


theotaku1000 wrote:

i think it's pretty good, i like the design of it


There's plenty of Anime sites with better members, and a cleaner look than Crunchyroll, if you're interested.


Do you REALLY want to bring in a foreign species to a reliable crop?


I don't know what you're talking about.
Posted 12/9/11

Aero-Mach wrote:


varnlestoff wrote:


Aero-Mach wrote:


theotaku1000 wrote:

i think it's pretty good, i like the design of it


There's plenty of Anime sites with better members, and a cleaner look than Crunchyroll, if you're interested.


Do you REALLY want to bring in a foreign species to a reliable crop?


I don't know what you're talking about.
Yeah I'm sure.

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