I think Japan is really cheating paying members
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In the sense that they are airing it while Japan is currently airing in Japan, it is simulcast.

Why is it that the last several seasons that the contract/agreements CR makes with Japan occasionally results with shows like Sacred Seven being streamed on CR a week after its Japanese airing? I think because R-15 is also airing on Niconico with a day after its Japanese airing is a primary explanation why I would watch on that site versus here. I thought enough money from paying members could come in to have the shows stream on Cr within 36-48 hours after its Japanese airing.

I'm flipping the bird to Japan for the censored simulcasts and delayed airings because CR hasn't limited control with this (as far as I know)


Same thing goes with Croisee on theanimenetwork.com and Hulu with Sacred Seven.

Honestly, this is one of the things that is having me consider stopping my monthly subscription. If fans are will to pay a monthly fee, I think Japan should get its head out of its butt and allow the simulcasted show to be shown on their respective streaming sites up to 48 hours after it airs in its native country.
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Its still vastly better compare to a certain Japanese company *cough*Crapcom*cough* is doing to their customers in the recent years.

http://blip.tv/angryjoeshow/ultimate-marvel-vs-capcom-3-angry-rant-5439688
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Japan mocks you for foiling his plans by revealing them!
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Posted 8/3/11

kadmos1 wrote:
Why is it that the last several seasons that the contract/agreements CR makes with Japan occasionally results with shows like Sacred Seven being streamed on CR a week after its Japanese airing?

The contract for Sacred Seven is not with any company in Japan; it is with Bandai in the United States.

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But why does that still mean that the US division of Bandai is still doing this? Why is it that a company notorious (among other companies) for delayed DVD release dates is doing this? If they want to lessen piracy, at least put it on a site up to 48 hours after the Japanese airing.
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Its kinda having the opposite effect that they wanted... it causes more people to just go watch fansubs of these shows since they come out before the official Simulcast versions do. If people want their anime, they aren't going to wait for it, so I dunno what the reasoning behind it is.
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kadmos1 wrote:

But why does that still mean that the US division of Bandai is still doing this? Why is it that a company notorious (among other companies) for delayed DVD release dates is doing this? If they want to lessen piracy, at least put it on a site up to 48 hours after the Japanese airing.

My best guess is that made it easier to get the deal. I suspect that delay coincides with the time the last station in Japan airs it.

Apparently in Japan, they don't take into account that someone could record a show from the first station it aired on, and share it over the internet. Of course, given the difference in cultures, and the fact that such an action can actually get you arrested there, either it isn't a big problem, or at least isn't perceived as one. But they know once we foreigners get our hands on it, it will be shared all over the place (while ignoring how we get raws for fansubs).

Keep in mind that we have seen similar moves here in the United States. Specifically, Fox's announcement that their shows on Hulu will be available 8 days after broadcast unless you can "authenticate" having access to them via specific sources, such as Dish Network):
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/27/business/media/fox-to-limit-next-day-streaming-on-hulu.html
http://articles.latimes.com/2011/jul/27/business/la-fi-ct-fox-hulu-20110727


Frankly, the delays do not affect me much. I typically watch a few shows that I expect to be so-so to decent as they are put out, and save the ones I think will be better until they are complete or nearly complete. For Gosick, for example, as each "story" consisted of 2-3 episodes, it was much better to be able to watch them with no one week wait in between.
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The terms of agreement is made by company and japan.

So depending how it is writing it is either the company screwing you or japan.

Either case very very misleading name for a thread.
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Posted 8/4/11

TheAncientOne wrote:


kadmos1 wrote:

But why does that still mean that the US division of Bandai is still doing this? Why is it that a company notorious (among other companies) for delayed DVD release dates is doing this? If they want to lessen piracy, at least put it on a site up to 48 hours after the Japanese airing.

My best guess is that made it easier to get the deal. I suspect that delay coincides with the time the last station in Japan airs it.

Apparently in Japan, they don't take into account that someone could record a show from the first station it aired on, and share it over the internet. Of course, given the difference in cultures, and the fact that such an action can actually get you arrested there, either it isn't a big problem, or at least isn't perceived as one. But they know once we foreigners get our hands on it, it will be shared all over the place (while ignoring how we get raws for fansubs).

Keep in mind that we have seen similar moves here in the United States. Specifically, Fox's announcement that their shows on Hulu will be available 8 days after broadcast unless you can "authenticate" having access to them via specific sources, such as Dish Network):
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/27/business/media/fox-to-limit-next-day-streaming-on-hulu.html
http://articles.latimes.com/2011/jul/27/business/la-fi-ct-fox-hulu-20110727


Frankly, the delays do not affect me much. I typically watch a few shows that I expect to be so-so to decent as they are put out, and save the ones I think will be better until they are complete or nearly complete. For Gosick, for example, as each "story" consisted of 2-3 episodes, it was much better to be able to watch them with no one week wait in between.


I think these deals suck and that CR would be better to chase other anime rather than accept such deals in the future. A couple of days wasn't a big deal. Once we're talking about episode 4 being air before CR can figure out the time slot for ep 1. We have a problem. It's not even remotely a simulcast anymore. And I think it does erode CRs viability as way to provide a better option than illegal streams.I've always been very happy with CR. until this season. If the pattern continues I probably WILL cancel my premium membership. I can spend the money on netflix or something.


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rights acquistion is friggin' brutal in almost any media. and in these scenarios we got multiple groups involved in production, licensing, and distribution. if it's turning into a cluster-f, im not terribly surprised
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...really?? .. okay cool opinion bro but that aside at least we are not having to wait 3-5 years after a series in japan to see it the whole point of this is stop fansubbers which it does in a way.. but then are people that do web rips and re-upload them online so it's just .. well hmm i need to dig more on that.
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Posted 8/4/11 , edited 8/4/11
I don't really care so much, as long as I can still watch anime and there is a good selection of anime to watch, uncensored episodes would be a plus, I don't see paying $7 or $20 a rip-off. I don't like delayed simulcast but in the end I just don't care that much unless the delay is like a month [email protected]*cough*

In Hulu's case, their streams are free, you can't complain about free.
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Posted 8/4/11 , edited 8/4/11
With several day late "Simulcasts", they shouldn't be charging 7 dollars a month. Simple as that. I am also considering cancelling my account since I paid with the thought I would continue getting anime on the day it aired in Japan, but they seem to be going away from this, so there leaves little reason to pay.


the whole point of this is stop fansubbers which it does in a way..


Not really. If anything, its helping fansubbing, since people just rip the Crunchyroll feed within 5 minutes of it airing here.
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honestly i pay for high quality videos and consistent releases. whether or not they are simulcasts doesn't matter much too me.
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