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Posted 8/3/14 , edited 1/28/15
I fucking loved the ending amazing end to an amazing manga especially how you think that they wouldn't be able to still have that carefree attitude with that kind of relationship and the author actually made it work out. That I loved...Bravo simply Bravo my dear chap.
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I liked the ending. There were some large hints about those two. I felt the time skip was terrible. However I think the mangaka wanted to create the "biggest lesson" Daikichi could teach or talk to Rin which was about love. Due to these hints, Rin never felt she could talk about it because she never fell in love with anyone else but Daikichi. You have to give him credit that he at least wanted to wait for Rin to have her education and be an adult.

At some point as well when we were little, we all had someone we liked who was older, some-sort of figure. Like a teacher or caregiver. Which is okay because its innocent. Rin's love for him is innocent, blooming into something more from the years that went by.
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In my opinion the ending was crap. Because the relationship between Rin and Daikichi was changed far too quickly. There was little to no buildup to it and even if there was I'm not sure I would be any more comfortable with the change. To me it doesn't matter that they're not related because their relationship is that of a father/daughter for about 95% of the entire story and then to all of the suddenly have Rin fall in love with Daikichi and to justify it by figuring out that she isn't related to him at all is just as bad as how Debra's relationship with her BROTHER in Dexter. ( Yes I know it is established from the beginning that they aren't related and they know it BUT you don't change the dynamic of a relationship that was established as a brother/sister relationship for 6 seasons and then all of the sudden have Debra fall in love with Dexter with absolutely no previous buildup or foreshadowing in the earlier seasons.
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Posted 8/5/14 , edited 1/28/15
Haven't read the manga, but that ending sounds disgusting. Not only is there a HUGE age gap, but also, Daikichi RAISED her. It doesn't matter if they're not related. Daikichi might as well have been her father.
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I was just reading some of the comments and finding out the manga ends like that is kind of not right. It would be good as to bring Rin up like a strong young girl and keep a father daughter relationship. I hoped it would of ended with Him getting together with the women who had a divorce with her husband or in the Life Action whose Husband Died and Rin and the boy who she is the only friend with got together
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It's not really THAT strange of an ending for a Japanese story if you consider their fables and history. In fact it's still common for a 40 something celebrity to get married to a girl 20 something years younger than them in Japan.
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xxJing wrote:

It's not really THAT strange of an ending for a Japanese story if you consider their fables and history. In fact it's still common for a 40 something celebrity to get married to a girl 20 something years younger than them in Japan.


It's not really the age difference that people have a problem with. It's that their father/daughter relationship turned romantic is what churned a lot of people's stomach.
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It never stopped feeling like a father-daughter relationship to me, so I was pretty put out by the ending. Even after agreeing to be with her, it still felt like Daikichi was just doing something to make his little girl happy. Maybe Rin never thought of Daikichi as a father figure, which allowed her to take a romantic interest in him, but that thought alone makes me so very sad. Poor Daikichi clearly loved and cared for her as if she were his daughter. She essentially rejected his parental love for her and forced him into accepting her romantic love for him- that's how I felt at the time anyways. I could reread the series and see how I feel about it now that some time has passed...but I won't. Brave as she was for going through with such a risky ending, the author broke my trust with this one.

At least I can still recommend the anime to people.
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For me, Usagi Drop feels like two completely different manga:

The first four volumes (and the Vol 10 side stories) are a slice of life about two characters coming to know and love each other, and the adjustments that they both make in order to allow that to happen.

Vols 5-9 tell a series of three romantic stories: How Kouki destroys any possible romantic relationship with Rin; How Daikichi and Yukari drift apart despite a mutual attraction; and How Daikichi and Rin become a couple.

My problem isn't just the third one, although I agree with deadreaver that the problem isn't the age gap as much as the father-daughter thing. My bigger problem is that I didn't really like any of those three romantic storylines. The other two weren't as stomach turning, but neither of them were especially well done. The Kouki x Rin story gets the most ink, and it just wasn't a very pleasant story, given the upbeat nature of the rest of the manga. Meanwhile the other two felt somewhat rushed, without the necessary character build up: in the first place because we never get anything from Yukari's perspective, and in the second place because the author needed to put in a lot more work to explain why their romantic love could overcome their filial love.

There are moments post-time-skip that I quite enjoyed, particularly Rin's discovery of and getting to know her mother, and Daikichi's reaction to it. Also, I really liked seeing Rin grow up into a capable young woman--it was nice vindication of the first half. But those moments get overshadowed by the poor romance.
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hikaruandabbey wrote:

I'm enjoying the anime, but I was disappointed when I heard about the manga's ending. (I've only read what's been released in America so far.) It seemed like the story was earnestly trying to depict a realistic bond between a parent and child. To me, Rin wanting to marry Daikichi, and even worse, him agreeing to do so, despite his reservations, really cheapens the whole relationship.


I might be somewhat culture bound ,but I wholeheartedly agree with you.
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xxJing wrote:

It's not really THAT strange of an ending for a Japanese story if you consider their fables and history. In fact it's still common for a 40 something celebrity to get married to a girl 20 something years younger than them in Japan.


It's not really the age difference that people have a problem with. It's that their father/daughter relationship turned romantic is what churned a lot of people's stomach.


Actually what I mean is one of their oldest legends is literally about some guy raising a young girl to be his perfect bride. Also seeing as a lot of these are written by women, it would seem that it is Japanese girls who have a thing for men far older than them and not necessarily the other way around. Hell even in Card Captor Sakura, not only did Sakura's mother get married to her teacher while she was a Highschool Freshmen, they hint at a mutual relationship between one of Sakura's classmates and their teacher.

Maybe I have just seen too much anime and read too much manga, but really nothing shocks me any more.
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xxJing wrote:


dreadreaver89 wrote:


xxJing wrote:

It's not really THAT strange of an ending for a Japanese story if you consider their fables and history. In fact it's still common for a 40 something celebrity to get married to a girl 20 something years younger than them in Japan.


It's not really the age difference that people have a problem with. It's that their father/daughter relationship turned romantic is what churned a lot of people's stomach.


Actually what I mean is one of their oldest legends is literally about some guy raising a young girl to be his perfect bride. Also seeing as a lot of these are written by women, it would seem that it is Japanese girls who have a thing for men far older than them and not necessarily the other way around. Hell even in Card Captor Sakura, not only did Sakura's mother get married to her teacher while she was a Highschool Freshmen, they hint at a mutual relationship between one of Sakura's classmates and their teacher.

Maybe I have just seen too much anime and read too much manga, but really nothing shocks me any more.


That's quite interesting; I know it used to be quite a common practice in many countries for older men to marry young girls, but I never knew many women actually fantasized about such practices.

To be honest, I myself am a fan of age gaps in manga since some can be quite lovely (A Bride's Story comes to mind), but what really turned me off with Usagi Drop was the way the author just quickly reveals to the audience that, "Oops, turns out Daikichi and Rin aren't actually related, that makes it okay for them to get married!" It just feels very cheap to quickly do something like that and seems so cliche for a manga that was a breath of fresh air up until that point.
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sonicspinner wrote:


xxJing wrote:


dreadreaver89 wrote:


xxJing wrote:

It's not really THAT strange of an ending for a Japanese story if you consider their fables and history. In fact it's still common for a 40 something celebrity to get married to a girl 20 something years younger than them in Japan.


It's not really the age difference that people have a problem with. It's that their father/daughter relationship turned romantic is what churned a lot of people's stomach.


Actually what I mean is one of their oldest legends is literally about some guy raising a young girl to be his perfect bride. Also seeing as a lot of these are written by women, it would seem that it is Japanese girls who have a thing for men far older than them and not necessarily the other way around. Hell even in Card Captor Sakura, not only did Sakura's mother get married to her teacher while she was a Highschool Freshmen, they hint at a mutual relationship between one of Sakura's classmates and their teacher.

Maybe I have just seen too much anime and read too much manga, but really nothing shocks me any more.


That's quite interesting; I know it used to be quite a common practice in many countries for older men to marry young girls, but I never knew many women actually fantasized about such practices.

To be honest, I myself am a fan of age gaps in manga since some can be quite lovely (A Bride's Story comes to mind), but what really turned me off with Usagi Drop was the way the author just quickly reveals to the audience that, "Oops, turns out Daikichi and Rin aren't actually related, that makes it okay for them to get married!" It just feels very cheap to quickly do something like that and seems so cliche for a manga that was a breath of fresh air up until that point.


This is why I really didn't like it. The father-daughter thing is always creepy; hell, incest of any kind is always a little bit creepy. But rather than acknowledge the creepiness of it and try to confront that head on--like Koi Kaze, Aki Sora, and even Kiss x Sis do--in Bunny Drop it all happens really fast and with no set-up. Suddenly Rin's in love with Daikichi in a romantic sense, for reasons that are never really explained (yes, he takes care of her, but that's what fathers do... and most people don't actually want to have sex with their parents, despite what Freud asserts). Then it's suddenly perfectly okay for them to get together because they aren't actually blood related. Hell, even Keita of Kiss X Sis thinks that screwing his step-sisters is not okay--and thinks his parents are perverted weirdos for saying that it is (which is not to say that he doesn't give in to some extent, but at least his conscience is in a good place!). But in Usagi Drop--a much smarter manga than Kiss x Sis on every level up until that point--Rin and Daikichi don't go through nearly as much angst about getting together.
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sonicspinner wrote:


xxJing wrote:


dreadreaver89 wrote:


xxJing wrote:

It's not really THAT strange of an ending for a Japanese story if you consider their fables and history. In fact it's still common for a 40 something celebrity to get married to a girl 20 something years younger than them in Japan.


It's not really the age difference that people have a problem with. It's that their father/daughter relationship turned romantic is what churned a lot of people's stomach.


Actually what I mean is one of their oldest legends is literally about some guy raising a young girl to be his perfect bride. Also seeing as a lot of these are written by women, it would seem that it is Japanese girls who have a thing for men far older than them and not necessarily the other way around. Hell even in Card Captor Sakura, not only did Sakura's mother get married to her teacher while she was a Highschool Freshmen, they hint at a mutual relationship between one of Sakura's classmates and their teacher.

Maybe I have just seen too much anime and read too much manga, but really nothing shocks me any more.


That's quite interesting; I know it used to be quite a common practice in many countries for older men to marry young girls, but I never knew many women actually fantasized about such practices.

To be honest, I myself am a fan of age gaps in manga since some can be quite lovely (A Bride's Story comes to mind), but what really turned me off with Usagi Drop was the way the author just quickly reveals to the audience that, "Oops, turns out Daikichi and Rin aren't actually related, that makes it okay for them to get married!" It just feels very cheap to quickly do something like that and seems so cliche for a manga that was a breath of fresh air up until that point.


I actually figured that would be the case from the beginning so that wasn't much of a shock to me either. Honestly, the way they portray Daikichi's grandfather it would be way more plausible that he decided to adopt a child from an irresponsible teenager considering abortion than actually knock up some girl younger than his grandkids.
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This is why I really didn't like it. The father-daughter thing is always creepy; hell, incest of any kind is always a little bit creepy. But rather than acknowledge the creepiness of it and try to confront that head on--like Koi Kaze, Aki Sora, and even Kiss x Sis do--in Bunny Drop it all happens really fast and with no set-up. Suddenly Rin's in love with Daikichi in a romantic sense, for reasons that are never really explained (yes, he takes care of her, but that's what fathers do... and most people don't actually want to have sex with their parents, despite what Freud asserts). Then it's suddenly perfectly okay for them to get together because they aren't actually blood related. Hell, even Keita of Kiss X Sis thinks that screwing his step-sisters is not okay--and thinks his parents are perverted weirdos for saying that it is (which is not to say that he doesn't give in to some extent, but at least his conscience is in a good place!). But in Usagi Drop--a much smarter manga than Kiss x Sis on every level up until that point--Rin and Daikichi don't go through nearly as much angst about getting together.


If a voice in your head tells you not to fuck your sister it's morality, if a voice in your head tells you to kill them all it's insanity. Saying no to one makes you normal, saying no to the other makes you a sociopath... Double standards.
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