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Americans; Anime v Cartoons
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Posted 8/12/11 , edited 8/12/11

TheYosh wrote:

i am not asian dumb ass, not all how like anime is asian

Now I'm doubting your actually 20, even Rednecks aren't this air-headed.


you should know that black dude

What makes you think I'm Black? Last time I checked, my profile says I'm Chinese (Cantonese to be exact).
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Posted 8/13/11
Ok! This is my point though they use many of the same technics to produce they are not the same. Anime is a story told over many episodes and many Americans see one episode don't understand the story line and call it a stupid cartoon. Cartoons if you don't know were produced for adult as a short funny skit to make you laugh. Todays cartoons are about get a moral or point across in 30 minutes and when a story is attempted it's in two to five episodes.

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Let's try to stay civil no personal attacks
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jwlynda wrote:

Ok! This is my point though they use many of the same technics to produce they are not the same. Anime is a story told over many episodes and many Americans see one episode don't understand the story line and call it a stupid cartoon. Cartoons if you don't know were produced for adult as a short funny skit to make you laugh. Todays cartoons are about get a moral or point across in 30 minutes and when a story is attempted it's in two to five episodes.

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Let's try to stay civil no personal attacks


I have a hard time acting civil wen people make stupid remarks, So X-Men is a 30 min skit or a series going over 100 episodes? I can list Japanese cartoons that happen to be 30 min skits with no real plots jus a moral story starting over fresh every new episode. In the end wen the Japanese people use the word anime they direct it at all animated shows no matter what age group or where it is from. Just like the average American with the word cartoon, all but the fad following numskalls, who do not out put the propper amount of intellect needed to make rationale observations.
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Posted 8/13/11

_Baka wrote:


TheYosh wrote:


andydono wrote:


TheYosh wrote:

anime is japanese animation
cartoon sucks is american animation sucks
people are too stupid


Says the Caucasian with bad grammar.
i am not asian dumb ass, not all how like anime is asian you should know that black dude


Caucasian = white. Not Asian.

He's not the dumb one I'm afraid.


This made me laugh at how alot of Americans are sooooo ignorant and uneducated.
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Posted 8/13/11

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jwlynda wrote:

Ok! This is my point though they use many of the same technics to produce they are not the same. Anime is a story told over many episodes and many Americans see one episode don't understand the story line and call it a stupid cartoon. Cartoons if you don't know were produced for adult as a short funny skit to make you laugh. Todays cartoons are about get a moral or point across in 30 minutes and when a story is attempted it's in two to five episodes.

P.S.
Let's try to stay civil no personal attacks


I have a hard time acting civil wen people make stupid remarks, So X-Men is a 30 min skit or a series going over 100 episodes? I can list Japanese cartoons that happen to be 30 min skits with no real plots jus a moral story starting over fresh every new episode. In the end wen the Japanese people use the word anime they direct it at all animated shows no matter what age group or where it is from. Just like the average American with the word cartoon, all but the fad following numskalls, who do not out put the propper amount of intellect needed to make rationale observations.


Well for my part I can remain civil even when others can't. In my post I left out some word it should have read "Cartoons if you don't know their history were produced for adults as a short funny skit to make you laugh'. As for the X-Men of which I am a fan and concider to be one of the anime style titles it sticks to the 30 minute good vs. evil plot. Of those 100 + episodes excluding the movies when has it dedicated more than 5 episoses or a full season to one storyline? Look my point is this you have your opinion I have mine. I feel anime has a more story oriented style than a cartoon.
Anime Naruto, X-Men, Spider Riders, Maributo, ect.
Cartoons Tom and Jerry, The Replacements, Ren and Stempy, ect.
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Posted 8/13/11

jwlynda wrote:


Darkphoenix3450 wrote:


jwlynda wrote:

Ok! This is my point though they use many of the same technics to produce they are not the same. Anime is a story told over many episodes and many Americans see one episode don't understand the story line and call it a stupid cartoon. Cartoons if you don't know were produced for adult as a short funny skit to make you laugh. Todays cartoons are about get a moral or point across in 30 minutes and when a story is attempted it's in two to five episodes.

P.S.
Let's try to stay civil no personal attacks


I have a hard time acting civil wen people make stupid remarks, So X-Men is a 30 min skit or a series going over 100 episodes? I can list Japanese cartoons that happen to be 30 min skits with no real plots jus a moral story starting over fresh every new episode. In the end wen the Japanese people use the word anime they direct it at all animated shows no matter what age group or where it is from. Just like the average American with the word cartoon, all but the fad following numskalls, who do not out put the propper amount of intellect needed to make rationale observations.


Well for my part I can remain civil even when others can't. In my post I left out some word it should have read "Cartoons if you don't know their history were produced for adults as a short funny skit to make you laugh'. As for the X-Men of which I am a fan and concider to be one of the anime style titles it sticks to the 30 minute good vs. evil plot. Of those 100 + episodes excluding the movies when has it dedicated more than 5 episoses or a full season to one storyline? Look my point is this you have your opinion I have mine. I feel anime has a more story oriented style than a cartoon.
Anime Naruto, X-Men, Spider Riders, Maributo, ect.
Cartoons Tom and Jerry, The Replacements, Ren and Stempy, ect.

Conan the adventure - Doramon.?.? my point is Is I don't just post openions, I point out facts that i base my opinion on. SUCH AS THE FACT THAT THE JAPANESE CALL ALL ANIMATED CARTOONS FROM POKEMON, TO THE SPIDERMAN ANIME "That is not just a opinion but a fact. you should go to my thread in the ED about opinions.
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Posted 8/13/11
Oy, what a can of worms...

Anyway, I personally prefer the story and plotlines that are present in anime to American cartoons. While I am aware that, since this thread was directed toward Americans, that cartoons technically do encompass anime, we have taken the Japanese word 'anime' (which they took from the word animation) to mean cartoons originating from Japan. They usually don't dumb things down, and recognize that animation is a valid medium to communicate stories for all ages.
Posted 8/13/11
Eh....not a big fan of either of them, unless they're classics (like Detective Conan and Dexter's Laboratory lol). I really don't see a difference, except that most anime has a storyline. People draw to make cartoons, same as anime. Not a big difference, right? Correct me if I'm wrong anyone.....
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Posted 8/13/11
Anyone who says that all american cartoons are drawn badly and all Japanese anime is the artwork of the gods have never watched: American - Avatar the Last Airbender or practically any superhero cartoon (JLU, Teen Titans, Young Justice) Japan - Shin chan, Kaasan, or Chi's Sweet Home. And as for "stretching" characters just look at xxxHolic (which I love by the way).

The fact is both american cartoons and Japanese Anime while can be broken up into different visual styles, should never be "locked into those styles. The purpose of both is to entertain, no reason to bash either category.
Posted 8/13/11

xbox432 wrote:

Anyone who says that all american cartoons are drawn badly and all Japanese anime is the artwork of the gods have never watched: American - Avatar the Last Airbender or practically any superhero cartoon (JLU, Teen Titans, Young Justice) Japan - Shin chan, Kaasan, or Chi's Sweet Home. And as for "stretching" characters just look at xxxHolic (which I love by the way).

The fact is both american cartoons and Japanese Anime while can be broken up into different visual styles, should never be "locked into those styles. The purpose of both is to entertain, no reason to bash either category.


See? Not much of a difference correct? By the way, I loved Avatar and Teen Titans. :3
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Posted 8/13/11 , edited 8/13/11

StrawberryXChoco wrote:

anime is japanese for animation right?
so it's all the same :)


Actually the word "anime" is just a abbreviated contracted word of "animation". Japan has this kind of habit or system however you wanna put it of abbreviating long and and pain-in-the-ass to say words so it can easily be said without wasting their breath. Like for example, Famicom(otherwise known as NES outside of JP) is a shortened form of Family Computer, as well as Pokemon (Pocket Monsters), and Comiket (Comic Market).

You can also notice that most of the time Japanese uses Katakana to transcribe foreign language words into Japanese for emphasis and distinction from the commonly used hirigana and Kanji. Anime (アニメ) is one of them. So you really cant say anime is a "Japanese word" for animation because it is a loanword and a literally compressed form of its orignal.

And back on topic, Anime and cartoons are relatively the same if you are talking about animation. Anime is a term specifically used for animated art and drawings which is not limited to only Japan, but outside as well. Cartoons is a more broader term which can mean short-panel comics, drawings as well as animation. Culturally, people would use the word "Anime" to distinct that a particular animation comes from Japan.

In conclusion, it doesn't matter if an animation has a meaningful/random themes, bad-ass/shitty characters, pretty art/drab art, crude/silly humor blah blah blah. Whatever is animated can be considered anime as well as cartoons.
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Posted 8/13/11
anime = cartoon= anime (anime = cartoon cartoon = anime)

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Darkphoenix3450 wrote:


Or they are just like the Japaness who calll all animated shows Anime ( EVEN BUGSBUNNY ). So wen Americans call all animated shows cartoons there just as right. Because the fact is Anime and Cartoon are two words with same meaning.


Case closed.

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Im American, and I can easily tell the difference.
Anime always has a storyline and almost always has a deeper meaning.

Cartoons almost never have a storyline and almost never have a deeper meaning.
Plus most cartoons make it hard to understand whats going on, whare as in anime, they always explain at some point

heres a quote from albert einstein thar can be used to describe my thoughts on cartoons: "Everything should be made as simple as possible, but not simpler."
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Posted 8/14/11 , edited 8/14/11

BlooyFatalis wrote:

Im American, and I can easily tell the difference.
Anime always has a storyline and almost always has a deeper meaning.


You obviously never heard of or watch Crayon Shin-chan or Doraemon have you? Some of the top anime weekly episode rankings are series that follows the episodic formula (my favourite anime series of all time City Hunter follows the episodic formula).


Cartoons almost never have a storyline and almost never have a deeper meaning.

DC/Marvel animated series, Undergrads, Clone High, Boondocks, Animaniacs, Futurama, Courage the Cowardly Dog, Family Guy, Robot Chicken, The Tick, The King of Hill would like to have a word with you.


Plus most cartoons make it hard to understand whats going on, where as in anime, they always explain at some point

Don't really see this as a bad thing. Honestly, I think some anime has way too much explaining to the point its unnecessary. And this is coming from a guy who generally likes Japanese cartoons more than American cartoons.
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