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Well, I was really looking forward to this or was at least hoping it'd be good but after looking at it am seriously disappointed.

There seems to be very little in the way of content right now. It just stated so maybe that's to be expected but none the less despite the fact that a good number of stuff is listed hardly any of it seems to even be readable. Not happy with the price either. What manga I could find for sale is expensive. $9 for a single volume, seriously? I'm better off just buying the actual manga online for $5-9 myself then. Don't get the point.

Also, again, the selection. Don't know how many series I looked at the had a number of volumes listed but no way to buy or view them. Are they going to be added at some point? Don't see how listing half the series and not making any of it available helps anything. Had a hard time even finding things you could buy. Natsume's Book of Friends, for example, 7 volumes listed but can only look at the first chapter.

Was really hoping for a working legit way to read stuff, JManga as of now isn't that. Paying just as much, if not quite a bit more, then the physical manga just to read it on the site and not actually own anything is crazy. Was hoping for a similar business model as CR. Lots of content for a low fee. Would be hard to do that with print material, I guess, but this model just doesn't work. At all. As far as I can tell you can't even look at anything beyond single chapter previews for free either. Doesn't look like my account even got any points, anyway. Well, I could go on but the point is obvious. Feel like I'm just starting to ramble now.

Unfortunately I see no reason what so ever to use the service as is. No selection, too expensive. Will stick to buying actual manga for now and come back some time later in hopes of it getting better. As it is only thing good I can say is the viewer, from what I saw of a couple previews, was decent.
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This is not what I was looking for. What I wanted was a subscription based model where I pay one price and get to read it all. As it is now, it is better to just order off amazon.
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I am very excited to see it's out. It's really been on my mind the past week with some of the news about Viz's mangas on their site.

I have to say the interface is great. I find the "guided" view mode to help focus my attention (my attention drifting is a part of why I have had trouble in the past sticking with manga). And I love the ability to quickly switch between english and japanese. This will be great leverage for my continued study of japanese.

While the yaoi and yuri sections were completely predictable, I am pleased to see there is a hentai section as many of us suggested. Ah, a fully comprehensive legal source puts me in good spirits. As such I'm enthusiastic to show my support for this site.

However the pricing model has caught me a bit off guard. I too assumed a subscription system, not credit-based. I am okay with that model however. But the prices themselves look to be a problem to me. I don't know yet how I feel about it, I need to try a bit more. I don't know how much content one volume has by comparison to an episode. But with the quantity of anime I watch, if I were "forced" to pay $2 per episode, I would not be able to fully participate. On the other hand if it were a pay-what-you-want per episode model, I may even do more sometimes, but would otherwise do what my budget limits. Jmanga however is asking $6-9 per volume, which is way higher than the episode example I gave. But again I don't know content comparison yet.
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Posted 8/17/11

TheAncientOne wrote:


munchthis wrote:

I am saddened because I don't have a credit card for the subscription. I have all this cash and no way to spend it.

If you have a bank account, you should be able to get a debit card without any problem.



don't have a bank account either, no job and no form of stable income.
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Posted 8/17/11
Amazon seems the better solution. Better off buying used if possible, and selling what I don't like off.
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zinjashike wrote:

Amazon seems the better solution. Better off buying used if possible, and selling what I don't like off.

When you look at their prices vs amazon, its actually cheaper to purchase them physically than though a service that might not be around. I am 100% behind supporting the industry, that's why I purchase blu-rays of shows I like and subscribe to crunchyroll. What I dont get is spending more in a service that may not be around here in 3 months. So before you go droping 300$ into a "online" collection when you could spend 250$ and get the same collection in paper... i have a feeling the paper will last longer.

Just my opinion!
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Posted 8/17/11

blackboots1337 wrote:


zinjashike wrote:

Amazon seems the better solution. Better off buying used if possible, and selling what I don't like off.

When you look at their prices vs amazon, its actually cheaper to purchase them physically than though a service that might not be around. I am 100% behind supporting the industry, that's why I purchase blu-rays of shows I like and subscribe to crunchyroll. What I dont get is spending more in a service that may not be around here in 3 months. So before you go droping 300$ into a "online" collection when you could spend 250$ and get the same collection in paper... i have a feeling the paper will last longer.

Just my opinion!


The kicker is, if you REALLY want a digital collection you could use a double sided scanner with an auto-feeder. Sure, it may be expensive or take a while finding a decent used one, but once you do you cut the old binding, scan, and then if you want rebind or box the manga. Completely DRM free and can be used on any device you want - without an online connection.

Of course I already know how to get around the "DRM" (online only aspect), but it's a matter of principle to me (no, I will not tell anyone here to get around it, and yes it would still require purchasing access to the manga).
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i'm sorry but it will be cool if you just buy the points so i'll pass
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I pay a membership fee not because it "helps" or "supports" the artists, I pay for it because I would like accurate translations. I honestly can't comment much since I don't read manga. I just personally feel it is a waste, much as I'm sure others feel that a membership to ChrunchyRoll is a waste.

All personal preference. Just voicing my opinion, which I believe were still allowed to do. . . For now.
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I was interested until I realized two things.

1) Selection Sucks
2) Price Sucks

Until those two things are fixed, I'm going to completely pretend the site doesn't even exist.
Posted 8/17/11
It's nice to have a legal manga site, so I checked it out. The quality is good and there are some japanese and english previews, but I was hoping for a lower price. (or I'm just too cheap) It's good for those of people who want to buy a particular chapter.
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Posted 8/17/11 , edited 8/17/11

zinjashike wrote:


blackboots1337 wrote:


zinjashike wrote:

Amazon seems the better solution. Better off buying used if possible, and selling what I don't like off.

When you look at their prices vs amazon, its actually cheaper to purchase them physically than though a service that might not be around. I am 100% behind supporting the industry, that's why I purchase blu-rays of shows I like and subscribe to crunchyroll. What I dont get is spending more in a service that may not be around here in 3 months. So before you go droping 300$ into a "online" collection when you could spend 250$ and get the same collection in paper... i have a feeling the paper will last longer.

Just my opinion!


The kicker is, if you REALLY want a digital collection you could use a double sided scanner with an auto-feeder. Sure, it may be expensive or take a while finding a decent used one, but once you do you cut the old binding, scan, and then if you want rebind or box the manga. Completely DRM free and can be used on any device you want - without an online connection.

Of course I already know how to get around the "DRM" (online only aspect), but it's a matter of principle to me (no, I will not tell anyone here to get around it, and yes it would still require purchasing access to the manga).


I have used a scanner and a binder cutter on some of my school books, because having everything searchable by computer is 10x easier when taking online quizzes, but not to digress too far, I have to say this is probably one of the best ideas. If your a hardcore manga reader and wish to read without the books, you can easily cut the binding, separate the pages, scan them at 2000+dpi (higher quality than those that JManga) and store them on several hard drives. Then re-glue the bindings. Digital + Physical Copy for ~10$. Now technicalyl this is not legal as your removing the "intellectual information" from outside of the "intended medium" and are then making an "illegal copy of copyrighted work". This probably wont bother many people, as the general public only sees it illegal when you re-distribute the digital copies to other individuals is when the step into illegal territory begins, sadly this is not true, technically when you purchase a CD, you have rights to that media in that form, as soon as you copy it to your computer that is 1 illegal copy, then you place it on your phone, there is 2 copies. Oh my, there I went...

Summary: Awesome Idea!


ShanHikari wrote:

I pay a membership fee not because it "helps" or "supports" the artists, I pay for it because I would like accurate translations. I honestly can't comment much since I don't read manga. I just personally feel it is a waste, much as I'm sure others feel that a membership to ChrunchyRoll is a waste.

All personal preference. Just voicing my opinion, which I believe were still allowed to do. . . For now.


I have to agree with you in the fact that its up to the fact if you read manga or not, I just run into the problem of this whole thing being a bad business principle, and I would prefer that before people go spending 10$ that they do their research as to what they are actually getting, and then logically comparing that to other competitive services. But that would require logic and a sound mind, something society in general has lost.


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Posted 8/17/11

blackboots1337
When you look at their prices vs amazon, its actually cheaper to purchase them physically than though a service that might not be around. I am 100% behind supporting the industry, that's why I purchase blu-rays of shows I like and subscribe to crunchyroll. What I dont get is spending more in a service that may not be around here in 3 months. So before you go droping 300$ into a "online" collection when you could spend 250$ and get the same collection in paper... i have a feeling the paper will last longer.

Just my opinion!


I'm all for supporting the industry, but when they're doing something right. This service his horrible. It's a dystopian system of distribution, a pit stop on the path to a world where all cultural acts are done at the permission of corporate entities, and consumer rights don't exist.


zinjashike

The kicker is, if you REALLY want a digital collection you could use a double sided scanner with an auto-feeder. Sure, it may be expensive or take a while finding a decent used one, but once you do you cut the old binding, scan, and then if you want rebind or box the manga. Completely DRM free and can be used on any device you want - without an online connection.


You can actually scan books non-destructively if you'd like. I do that as my job, for old books from libraries. And I'm building a non-destructive scanner myself; there're some great designs and a community here: http://www.diybookscanner.org/
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Posted 8/17/11

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ShanHikari wrote:

Meh~ tons of manga sites out there. I don't see why one would pay for it when its free almost everywhere else...


Same as you can watch anime anywhere for free, but you still pay for it here, right?


It isn't really the same, you can find manga with the same quality everywhere with or without paying while with anime online most are crappy players with really bad quality while CR has up to 720p, that's the difference
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Posted 8/17/11
The page is confusing. From what I understand it's not a "pay a monthly subscription and read what you want" model, but rather you buy points that you trade for digital books. ;-(

If it was a pay by the month and read as much or as little as you want type model I'd be game. But I dislike digital book purchases, and I also dislike companies that make you trade money for points, and then later trade those points for digital items. That's complicated, and abstracts how much something is actually worth.
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