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Once the Evolution or Creationism theory dies what now?
Posted 9/12/11 , edited 9/13/11

Just like the argument of whether the world is flat or
round and the Sun or Earth is the center of the solar system.



The Theory of Evolution or Creationism will one day die.
Of course my question is that what kind of
elusive questions in the cosmos will humanity would argue next once
one of those theories dies?

Posted 9/12/11
Why would evolution die? There is scientific proof that it exists.
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NyuBoom wrote:

Why would evolution die? There is scientific proof that it exists.


yes. there is proof.

but someone can still disprove it. It's only a theory after all.
Posted 9/12/11 , edited 9/12/11
The world would become a better and more productive place. Sadly stupidity plagues the world and I'm always astounded by peoples inability to think and reason.

If that doesn't make clear which side I'm on then this should. I don't think Evolution can be disproved, it may only be perfected.
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Not to flame, but Creationism is already an undead theory. It basically does not exist in the scientific community; when creationism stops being a significant enough sociopolitical cause to make science class even more dull for hapless students, then some other issue will arise to be unevenly debated. My guess is it will be related to string theory or related to the nature of space-time in our universe.
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Posted 9/12/11

reita187 wrote:


NyuBoom wrote:

Why would evolution die? There is scientific proof that it exists.


yes. there is proof.

but someone can still disprove it. It's only a theory after all.


wasn't gravity at one time a theory?


this is the beauty of science.... if a theory proves false through intensive experimentation, it can give rise to new hypothesizes in it's wake to undergo those same tests and could become a new more accurate theory than it's predecessor, ultimately drawing us closer to the truth.
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Posted 9/12/11

imphic wrote:

Not to flame, but Creationism is already an undead theory. It basically does not exist in the scientific community; when creationism stops being a significant enough sociopolitical cause to make science class even more dull for hapless students, then some other issue will arise to be unevenly debated. My guess is it will be related to string theory or related to the nature of space-time in our universe.


My thoughts exactly. Well said!

Yes I believe the next thing to be debated is the origin of the universe. With the LHC already showing some interesting things, the debates are bound to get heated up quick.
Posted 9/12/11
There'll always be religious nuts out there...Here's a good idea from a news clipping:

A 9-year-old girl was raped on British soils by her uncle, and she was rushed to a hospital about two-three months later, complaining from stomach pains. She was pregnant, so the doctors had to give her an abortion, because the birth would kill both the baby and the mother. So, they did their duty, and then the Archbishop stepped in. He Excommunicated all of the doctors who aided in the abortion, as well as the little girl. He believed they should be punished, the girl for having sex before marriage, and the doctors performing the "Horrid crime of abortion."

Note: The Bishop did nothing against the rapist. He was judged by the court of law.

Think of that for a bit. It's pretty harsh; - I hate religion. Islam? Lol, go kill somebody. Christianity? Find excuses from a made-up book to gain more power and kill more people. 1800's: *Daughter inherits fathers vast estate* Church: "SHE'S A WITCH, BURN HER!" *Lands donated to said church*.

Catlickism is just as bad, if not worst. They tend to molest children as one thing.

I WILL ADMIT, religion has it's uses. It's easier to unite a group of people under a certain cause when you tell them that some old dude with a beard is watching them from the skies. But, that was only really needed in the olden days. Now, we have SCIENCE.

(News clipping courtesy of Sankaku Complex, plus other news websites when I googled it.)

One final note: I do believe that there is a "Greater force" guiding us, but I'm not religious.
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Posted 9/12/11

uhohimdead wrote:


reita187 wrote:


NyuBoom wrote:

Why would evolution die? There is scientific proof that it exists.


yes. there is proof.

but someone can still disprove it. It's only a theory after all.


wasn't gravity at one time a theory?



It was once a thoery and now I law I guess.

but even that law is not entirely true.
the theory's were laid down by isaac newton and accepted.

but through further discovery scientists found out that there are limitations and exceptions to gravity.

for example gravity doesn't apply to things that are super small like atoms or things that are on the super large scale.

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yup. you went on to say it is beautiful that things always change or something like that.
i think so too.

haha!
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Posted 9/13/11

sabzki wrote:

The world would become a better and more productive place. Sadly stupidity plagues the world and I'm always astounded by peoples inability to think and reason.

If that doesn't make clear which side I'm on then this should. I don't think Evolution can be disproved, it may only be perfected.


+1 Much MUCH more productive with a lot less hate
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Posted 9/13/11 , edited 9/13/11
Creationism has been dead for a long time.

The only reason anyone still believes in creationism, is because; if they concede that it's wrong... They have to re-evalutate their entire belief system. They are lying to themselves. Ignoring, or refusing to even see the evidence.
I've seen horrible videos of american parents homeschooling their kids, teaching them blatant falsehoods. (Example; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DH_wPUVlJ38 )
Their knowledge of any kind of science or history (Even american history.) Is so limited, that they shouldn't be studying at a fourth grade level, let alone teach it.
And don't even get me started on creationist champions like Kirk Cameron and Ray Comfort. Listening and watching those two, is honestly like watching 2 sock puppets fuck a donkey.
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Posted 9/13/11
If theirs proof wouldn't it no longer be a theory?
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Posted 9/13/11 , edited 9/13/11
Your wording made it sound like people will simultaneously stop believing in creationism and evolution. Took a bit to understand you meant when arguing over them dies out.

Dunno why you question what's next. There's already plenty that is debated on a large scale, like global warming, though society already seems to be on the trailing end of that debate. A current debate that is still on the rise is trying to identify major causes of the global economy starting to fail. Plenty of people have extreme opinions on that. Another major debate is arguing what's right or reasonable about the wars in the middle east. If humanity ever begins to consider expanding off the Earth, you can be certain that'll lead to a lot of debates. Like what resources of the Earth can be consumed for the purpose of expanding, will expanding be a danger to both humanity and other planets' environments, how can other planets' resources be justly used, etc.




By scientific definition, gravity is still a theory. Theory becomes fact when you can fully explain with science. Certainly there's no doubt it exists however. We know "what goes up, must come down", we know that all mass has gravity. But we don't know what causes that to be true. That's what the Large Hadron Collider is working on more or less, identifying the component that makes gravity work, the theoretical Higgs Boson. If that is successfully revealed, gravity will become scientific fact. Otherwise, for now, gravity is scientific theory.
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Posted 9/13/11 , edited 9/13/11

Tenken1989 wrote:

If theirs proof wouldn't it no longer be a theory?




No because you need evidence to even create a workable theory.
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