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http://www.megaupload.com/?d=64TP19V8

Pack of about 1100 background images ive compiled from various websites.


are they copyright free?


Some of them are, but I cant be sure about others. Im currently sorting them by website and trying to figure out which ones are and which ones aren't.
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are they copyright free?


That's of interest to me as well. I don't want to use any images unless the licencing permits me to use them in my own work.
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Some of them are, but I cant be sure about others. Im currently sorting them by website and trying to figure out which ones are and which ones aren't.


If you want to know what some Japanese sites says, I'll translate them for you.
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Some of them are, but I cant be sure about others. Im currently sorting them by website and trying to figure out which ones are and which ones aren't.


If you want to know what some Japanese sites says, I'll translate them for you.



Ok then, a few questions.


Many of the images on http://masato.ciao.jp/haikei/furemu.html, which you said were copyright free also appear on http://guttari8.sakura.ne.jp/. Can you verify that all the images available on http://guttari8.sakura.ne.jp/are also license free?

Also, can I get a license check on http://winddorf.oops.jp/4framepage.htm
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Some of them are, but I cant be sure about others. Im currently sorting them by website and trying to figure out which ones are and which ones aren't.


If you want to know what some Japanese sites says, I'll translate them for you.



Ok then, a few questions.


Many of the images on http://masato.ciao.jp/haikei/furemu.html, which you said were copyright free also appear on http://guttari8.sakura.ne.jp/. Can you verify that all the images available on http://guttari8.sakura.ne.jp/are also license free?

Also, can I get a license check on http://winddorf.oops.jp/4framepage.htm


Haikei shashin hokan no kai
http://masato.ciao.jp/haikei/furemu.html
・All images are public domain (both personal and commercial use are allowed)
・The following things are forbidden
1)Don't redistribute changed or altered images as materials (redistribution of raw images is OK)
2)Don't sell images as materials in the form of CD-rom etc.
3)Don't use images as your own creation (means calling yourself to be the creator of images)

Guttari nyanko
http://guttari8.sakura.ne.jp/
・The owner of copyright of images with the word "ORIGINAL" is the site owner. But he allows anyone to use them as free material (both personal and commercial use are allowed) and no need of showing the author or licensor.
・images with the word "NOT ORIGINAL" are not copyright free but you don't have to show the author or licensor (I think this means almost as equal as public domain and only "NOT ORIGINAL " image I found on that site is the one with a car in it.)


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Hey guys, new review of ComiPo! over at

http://www.geekingoutabout.com/2011/09/20/go-go-gaijin-comipo-vocaloid-for-comics/

ALSO, we're going to start focusing on getting the Crunchyroll ComiPo! Showcase Gallery up and running.

Any features you'd like to request?
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Hey guys, new review of ComiPo! over at

http://www.geekingoutabout.com/2011/09/20/go-go-gaijin-comipo-vocaloid-for-comics/

ALSO, we're going to start focusing on getting the Crunchyroll ComiPo! Showcase Gallery up and running.

Any features you'd like to request?


Thats not a very good review of the program, I wouldn't have shared it like they are (here and fb). It points out a lot of the flaws and problems we are currently facing with the english version.


If you want to make comics in the style of Yuru Yuri or Lucky Star or K-ON!, you may be in luck. But if you want anything but a teenage girl attending an all-girl’s high school, you’re going to want to hope those add-ons are expansive. When making a character, you won’t be able to include children, toddlers, babies, animals, or overweight people. You might be a little frustrated that there are more options for girls’ uniforms than boys’ uniforms, that all the boys essentially look the same as the girls, and that the only thing separating an older person from a younger character are frown lines. If you want to do a story about a five-year-old who rides a bike to school, you will be stuck. No bike, no child bodies, no backpacks. There is a very specific mold you have to follow, and that can be frustrating.
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I feel it's fair to post any major review and not just to focus on the purely positive ones...

Anyway, the ComiPo! work shown here shows how people are getting around these perceived "limitations", and I feel this is the best advertisement for the product rather than a review written by someone who only spent a short time with the program.

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I feel it's fair to post any major review and not just to focus on the purely positive ones...

Anyway, the ComiPo! work shown here shows how people are getting around these perceived "limitations", and I feel this is the best advertisement for the product rather than a review written by someone who only spent a short time with the program.

Thanks


Indeed, please do share any review regardless of its overall tone. Indeed when first picking up the programs, there's clear limitations. And people worried about that need to remember the developers are still active. But in gaining experience, plenty can be overcome with creative tricks.

For example, in character creation, there are no options at all that would create variance in height. However I have given careful attention in every strip I've created to be mindful of emulating character height. It is subtle, but it is always there (I don't have any tricks for breasts though...). My character lineup is the most visible example, especially the sisters at the far left who are distinctly smaller than the next closest girl:
http://fav.me/d49wlck

Similar is in the very first panel of Makisu Friends, the teacher looks plenty adult-like to me, both in age and height: http://fav.me/d4a1et1
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I'm a Japanese version user and the answer of your question is currently no.
You can't "rig" the bones of 3D characters. You can only rig them at other software, such as poser or 3ds, after that, you can import them into Comipo.

This is a major complaint about Comipo among Japanese users. The developers say they are planning to implement this function in the future. But it wil need a major update, may be version 2.0. Current Japanese version is ver. 1.59. So it will take some time for us to use boned 3D models on Comipo.


Hey, thanks so much for the info, hekemoko, but can I ask for some clarification?

Are you saying that, in the Japanese version, you can import a 3D character that was rigged in another application and pose it in ComiPo!?

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PatrickCRNews wrote:

I feel it's fair to post any major review and not just to focus on the purely positive ones...

Anyway, the ComiPo! work shown here shows how people are getting around these perceived "limitations", and I feel this is the best advertisement for the product rather than a review written by someone who only spent a short time with the program.

Thanks


There are limitations of course, but as a Comipo comic creator I feel particularly proud finding ways to overcome them.

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hekemoko wrote:

I'm a Japanese version user and the answer of your question is currently no.
You can't "rig" the bones of 3D characters. You can only rig them at other software, such as poser or 3ds, after that, you can import them into Comipo.

This is a major complaint about Comipo among Japanese users. The developers say they are planning to implement this function in the future. But it wil need a major update, may be version 2.0. Current Japanese version is ver. 1.59. So it will take some time for us to use boned 3D models on Comipo.


Hey, thanks so much for the info, hekemoko, but can I ask for some clarification?

Are you saying that, in the Japanese version, you can import a 3D character that was rigged in another application and pose it in ComiPo!?



Sorry my expression was misleading. No. You can't pose rigged characters in Comipo. Though you can adjust some parts of preset characters such as head and hands.
In fact there's another manga making software called Paint lab / Character lab. With it you can handle fully rigged anime type character and pose it as you like.

http://www.clip-studio.com/site/pr/pl/
http://www.clip-studio.com/clip_site/cliplab/popup_characterlab



You can change face expressions, hairstyles and outfits just like Comipo and can pose them.
If you are interested, you can download the beta version at the sites for free but for that you have to register and it is all in Japanese.

https://www.clip-studio.com/clip_site/user/regist

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hekemoko wrote:

Sorry my expression was misleading. No. You can't pose rigged characters in Comipo. Though you can adjust some parts of preset characters such as head and hands.
In fact there's another manga making software called Paint lab / Character lab. With it you can handle fully rigged anime type character and pose it as you like.



OK, thanks so much for that clarification! I guess that means that we will only have the characters available that ComiPo! provides.

If its not too much trouble, I would be interested in knowing what 3D file formats the Japanese version can import. .obj is the most common and important format.

Also, thanks for mentioning Character Lab! That's pretty cool! I need to enlist the help of Google Translate to look around there.

Perhaps the competition from this product in Japan will encourage ComiPo! to include support for rigged character import in the future.
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OK, thanks so much for that clarification! I guess that means that we will only have the characters available that ComiPo! provides.

If its not too much trouble, I would be interested in knowing what 3D file formats the Japanese version can import. .obj is the most common and important format.

Also, thanks for mentioning Character Lab! That's pretty cool! I need to enlist the help of Google Translate to look around there.

Perhaps the competition from this product in Japan will encourage ComiPo! to include support for rigged character import in the future.



Japanese version can import only mqo file format. It's a special format for a 3D modeling software called Metasequoia

http://www.metaseq.net/metaseq/

It's the most popular 3D software in Japan and you can use almost all functions for free. But there's no English version.
Also there are few software available in English that can handle mqo files. But Blender has a plugin which enables you to save 3D data in mqo format.
I think when 3D import function is implemented in English version, they will choose a more popular format other than mqo, such as obj or 3ds .
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