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So what's the big deal about Hatsune Miku?
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Ok, so I've seen the character Hatsune Mike all over the internet and I am wondering why is it so popular? I know that it is a singing synth, but why has it been such a hit everywhere else? I'm not saying that its success is a bad thing, I am just curious on why is it is so popular...
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Why is kesha popular?
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lol Hatsume Mike hehehehe...

Edit: aww why you change title?
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Some people do take it too far, to the point where they actually consider her to be a living, breathing human being. I like her, but not to the point of hysteria.
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Everyone has their own unique tastes when it comes to music. Me, for example, I like just about anything except Country, Folk, and Rap(I do like Eminem though). I like Miku as well but I couldn't really tell you why, I just do.
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She's adorable, her voice is awesome, got me into japanese music, and she's a fucking hollogram, how badass is that!?
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What's a kesha? Seriously, I've heard that name so many times before... is it a band, a singer? What?

Oh, and yeah, I'm also curious about the popularity of Hatsune Miku, though I do kinda understand just cause I asked one of my foreign exchange students friends who was from Japan. But, I don't really remember what he said, but the jist of it was that it was there at the right time and exposed to the right demographic, then it just got bigger and bigger. He said that Japan is kinda like that with trends and such...
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To each their own. I personally find the character crap.
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CAUSE SHE'S F****** AWESOME!
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Posted 9/17/11
She was supposed to sing the nyan cat song right?

Not really a fan of vocaloid.
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LosingOrbit wrote:

Some people do take it too far, to the point where they actually consider her to be a living, breathing human being. I like her, but not to the point of hysteria.


In most cases at my job, she would be a far better subsitute for a human being then... most humans
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CAUSE SHE'S F****** AWESOME!


But why is she awesome? You're giving the result of, not the means of. Which isn't at all helpful.


Too be blunt, Miku is a Mary Sue. She also appeals strongly to the moe fanbase because of her character designs and overall shifting characteristics.

But that's just scratching the surface. Why is she popular? It's something I'd like to know too. I mean, my side showing has involved selling merchandise of Vocaloid, but I want to know why people actually let me get away with such exponent prices. Why is she so popular? She doesn't seem all that extraordinairy. Sometimes, even underwhelming.

saying she's awesome without a valid reason isn't helpful. It's kinda like giving me a soda bottle with no soft drink inside. Not exactly fulfilling.
Posted 9/17/11

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But why is she awesome? You're giving the result of, not the means of. Which isn't at all helpful.


Too be blunt, Miku is a Mary Sue. She also appeals strongly to the moe fanbase because of her character designs and overall shifting characteristics.

But that's just scratching the surface. Why is she popular? It's something I'd like to know too. I mean, my side showing has involved selling merchandise of Vocaloid, but I want to know why people actually let me get away with such exponent prices. Why is she so popular? She doesn't seem all that extraordinairy. Sometimes, even underwhelming.

saying she's awesome without a valid reason isn't helpful. It's kinda like giving me a soda bottle with no soft drink inside. Not exactly fulfilling.


Everything you say is the truth. Case Closed.
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First, mind that popularity is entirely opinion based. This should certainly not be the first time you've heard of something popular that you "don't get", it is a very natural and common stance on all matters. That being said, acknowledge the vast quantity of opinions that deem Vocaloid to be great. Popularity is definitely pretty high-scale here.

Hatsune Miku covers multiple areas that a person can be fond of, and in each individual section she perfoms the role well. That also means she appeals to a lot of different people focused in different areas. That quickly stacks up and amplifies popularity significantly.

Vocaloid is a voice synthesizer. It is a tool, a program, for people to create music with. Most music instruments have had synthesized equivalents for quite some time, but vocals haven't had very effective implementations. Vocaloid managed to step in on this idea and execute it pretty well. Maybe not human sounding, but every note is very well articulated which can't be said about all past voice synths. So Vocaloid managed to really stand out for its role as a tool, enabling something previously lacking.

Hatsune Miku associates a persona to the program. A tool on its own, you'll put little thought into the program itself. However adding a personality to it gives you something to smile about other than the end result. "This is the voice of Hatsune Miku." The user has control over this persona that is associated with the voice they'll be using. Furthermore she is a persona in an anime style, which adds further appeal over choosing to associate a celebrity's face. Anime personalities tend to extend into a fictionalized range that you'll never get from a real rock star.

Published songs are "sung by Hatsune Miku". Someone uses the tool to create a song, but rather than some random person having put out a song, someone you recognize and are familiar with is at the center of the song. This makes it easier to look forward to listening to the complete work. It is also earns the artist an easier means for exposure, and passerbys will care about the familiar Miku first. This means it using the tool appeals to the artist, there is also already an audience wanting to see more.

The persona is completely community-driven. Rather than a pre-existing universe following a script, anything is possible. A persona theoretically has a whole universe behind it. And due to the prolonged exposure of Hatsune Miku, many have wished to theorize the world behind her. She may sing for freedom in a song that is a big hit, and there is nothing official to define that being out of character. This exploration also works well for alternate mediums, so her world can be further explored in comics and animation. This also greatly applies my favorite philosophy that inspiration perpetuates inspiration, good works will motivate good works.

There is appeal even without listening to Vocaloid music. The anime-style persona combined with community exploration means fans of manga, anime, video games, and other niches can experience Hatsune Miku in their own favorite mediums. All genres explored, though mostly comedy which has high demand and desire. It is realistic to be a fan of Hatsune Miku without acknowledging the program, because the nature of her persona is held by the community, a day in the life of Miku is a very capable primary medium of entertainment.

Human-like, less-than-human, more-than-human. She manages to be all of the above. And each aspect adds to her fondness in positive directions without being subtractive (to many fans at least). Standing out above all past voice synthesizers, the relative smoothness of her synthesizing judged the program to be the most human-like singing synthesizer. However the non-human "robotic" tone added a fair bit of charm, as it made her distinct. And of course, she is editable note by note and makes no spontaneous mistakes on her own, which makes the creation process theoretically more efficient than with a human. A side notes, though these details are in Vocaloid's favor, these same details also add up to why real human singing has its own place, these do not directly push each other.

The singing star, Hatsune Miku, is perfect. This is really the only detail that fights with reality directly (it is also probably the least on people's minds). While Miku is the star and maintaining the spotlight, there won't be any consequences of that spotlight. The paparazzi are out of a job here, as real celebrities are frequently caught up in scandals, can be argued to have betrayed the fans, or other demeaning events. They also have finite stardom, because they're one entity, and they age. Being a virtual entity in the hands of the community, these matters are impossible for Miku. However I reiterate, this a less relevant point, as this only addresses negativity that is absent, while it is positivity that is present that drives most attraction.

Honestly there is yet more than can be broken down, but it's very difficult to manifest every single idea in one sitting (ie. I can't recall other aspects to cover right now).

So that should be a good breakdown for you, and in each area it should be observable that Vocaloid stands at or near the top for excelling in that area. If you absorb the logic here well enough, you should also be able to understand Touhou's popularity as it has overlap in popularity here.

Was there soda in that bottle? >_>
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