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So what's the big deal about Hatsune Miku?
Posted 9/17/11 , edited 9/17/11

underlock wrote:

I find the whole situation hilarious. And her voice is pretty shitty.


That was mean....
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i hate most american music so i've turned to other countries for my music for a few reasons 1 its a different style 2 its helping me learn japanese a little bit 3 its better than american music in my opinion 4 since my family doesnt know the language i can listen to song without headphones and no one (including myself) will know if the song is dirty and its catchy and being a fan of her is like being a fan of another music artist they even do concerts with the vocaloids as holograms (i wanna go to one) and the vocaloids could be the start to a whole new genre of music and maybe in the future it'll be the only music (they're currently working on english voices for the vocaloids)
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First, mind that popularity is entirely opinion based. This should certainly not be the first time you've heard of something popular that you "don't get", it is a very natural and common stance on all matters. That being said, acknowledge the vast quantity of opinions that deem Vocaloid to be great. Popularity is definitely pretty high-scale here.

Hatsune Miku covers multiple areas that a person can be fond of, and in each individual section she perfoms the role well. That also means she appeals to a lot of different people focused in different areas. That quickly stacks up and amplifies popularity significantly.

Vocaloid is a voice synthesizer. It is a tool, a program, for people to create music with. Most music instruments have had synthesized equivalents for quite some time, but vocals haven't had very effective implementations. Vocaloid managed to step in on this idea and execute it pretty well. Maybe not human sounding, but every note is very well articulated which can't be said about all past voice synths. So Vocaloid managed to really stand out for its role as a tool, enabling something previously lacking.

Hatsune Miku associates a persona to the program. A tool on its own, you'll put little thought into the program itself. However adding a personality to it gives you something to smile about other than the end result. "This is the voice of Hatsune Miku." The user has control over this persona that is associated with the voice they'll be using. Furthermore she is a persona in an anime style, which adds further appeal over choosing to associate a celebrity's face. Anime personalities tend to extend into a fictionalized range that you'll never get from a real rock star.

Published songs are "sung by Hatsune Miku". Someone uses the tool to create a song, but rather than some random person having put out a song, someone you recognize and are familiar with is at the center of the song. This makes it easier to look forward to listening to the complete work. It is also earns the artist an easier means for exposure, and passerbys will care about the familiar Miku first. This means it using the tool appeals to the artist, there is also already an audience wanting to see more.

The persona is completely community-driven. Rather than a pre-existing universe following a script, anything is possible. A persona theoretically has a whole universe behind it. And due to the prolonged exposure of Hatsune Miku, many have wished to theorize the world behind her. She may sing for freedom in a song that is a big hit, and there is nothing official to define that being out of character. This exploration also works well for alternate mediums, so her world can be further explored in comics and animation. This also greatly applies my favorite philosophy that inspiration perpetuates inspiration, good works will motivate good works.

There is appeal even without listening to Vocaloid music. The anime-style persona combined with community exploration means fans of manga, anime, video games, and other niches can experience Hatsune Miku in their own favorite mediums. All genres explored, though mostly comedy which has high demand and desire. It is realistic to be a fan of Hatsune Miku without acknowledging the program, because the nature of her persona is held by the community, a day in the life of Miku is a very capable primary medium of entertainment.

Human-like, less-than-human, more-than-human. She manages to be all of the above. And each aspect adds to her fondness in positive directions without being subtractive (to many fans at least). Standing out above all past voice synthesizers, the relative smoothness of her synthesizing judged the program to be the most human-like singing synthesizer. However the non-human "robotic" tone added a fair bit of charm, as it made her distinct. And of course, she is editable note by note and makes no spontaneous mistakes on her own, which makes the creation process theoretically more efficient than with a human. A side notes, though these details are in Vocaloid's favor, these same details also add up to why real human singing has its own place, these do not directly push each other.

The singing star, Hatsune Miku, is perfect. This is really the only detail that fights with reality directly (it is also probably the least on people's minds). While Miku is the star and maintaining the spotlight, there won't be any consequences of that spotlight. The paparazzi are out of a job here, as real celebrities are frequently caught up in scandals, can be argued to have betrayed the fans, or other demeaning events. They also have finite stardom, because they're one entity, and they age. Being a virtual entity in the hands of the community, these matters are impossible for Miku. However I reiterate, this a less relevant point, as this only addresses negativity that is absent, while it is positivity that is present that drives most attraction.

Honestly there is yet more than can be broken down, but it's very difficult to manifest every single idea in one sitting (ie. I can't recall other aspects to cover right now).

So that should be a good breakdown for you, and in each area it should be observable that Vocaloid stands at or near the top for excelling in that area. If you absorb the logic here well enough, you should also be able to understand Touhou's popularity as it has overlap in popularity here.

Was there soda in that bottle? >_>


Too add too that, the reason it so viral in nature is because she is not fixed into one type of system, i notice some people where saying that little wayne is better etc. YET i can put Hatsune Miku in almost any environment and she will be at the top because of how she is created.

I dont know if i can find another example of a system? (brand?) that can go viral in almost any environment 50 cents? Eminem? jay z? etc i think they can look at 50 C he has games, clothing line etc. BUT Vocaloid was made to just that take the system and make it viral for ANYTHING.

Except to see more Vocaloid Hatsune Miku was just the first sort of like a wave, you see that wave but there will be more

Posted 9/17/11
Don't know nor really care about it, but people do like it... So they try to get me to like it
Posted 9/17/11 , edited 9/17/11
What is that? Who is that?

Edit:

Just did a little research on Hatsune Miku and I possibly don't understand why she is popular and so big. Listening to her the first time, she almost exploded my ear drums. Not to be mean, but I don't like her voice. Her music is okay, but her voice- not the best for me, personally. I think her voice is annoying, precisely.

Who can't sound like her? I bet me, a terrible singer can so, too, sound like her. Kidding! I am way better! Mwahaha, kidding. Anyhow, I also don't understand why Hatsune Miku is famous, whatever you would want to consider it.
Posted 9/17/11 , edited 9/17/11
cause she has blue hair and sings songs about heartbreak and other depressing things that teenagers go through (well sometimes). she has to be a hit with the fellow emo people no?


I guess you could also say its like the Japanese version of T-pain, : D
Posted 9/17/11

iFlyingPandas wrote:

cause she has blue hair and sings songs about heartbreak and other depressing things that teenagers go through (well sometimes). she has to be a hit with the fellow emo people no?


I guess you could also say its like the Japanese version of T-pain, : D


Duuude, T-Pain's songs are annoying in my opinion! Probably one of the reasons why I stopped listening to American Hip Hop, pop, and RMB (or was it R&B?) songs.
Posted 9/17/11

plainasusual wrote:


iFlyingPandas wrote:

cause she has blue hair and sings songs about heartbreak and other depressing things that teenagers go through (well sometimes). she has to be a hit with the fellow emo people no?


I guess you could also say its like the Japanese version of T-pain, : D


Duuude, T-Pain's songs are annoying in my opinion! Probably one of the reasons why I stopped listening to American Hip Hop, pop, and RMB (or was it R&B?) songs.


LOL R&B xD and yes he is quiiiiiiitee annoying, he came out with his own auto-tune microphone. thats when you know they can't think of any good toys.
Posted 9/17/11


LMAO Thanks for the correction.

Nothing is really good these days.
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Posted 9/17/11
k I have never seen anything like that before . Would like to see the whole concert .
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Posted 9/17/11
yea I'm not a fan since I have no idea who and/or what it is but shes a cute character. I have just seen the character everywhere so that is the only thing I know about hatsune miku
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Posted 9/17/11
I like the whole vocaloid thing because it's something unique.

but I like covers of vocaloid songs with actually people singing over the original vocaloid songs.

Emotionless, electronic voices just aren't really my thing.
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It's the same reason why people are obsessed with Edward & Jacobs...!!
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Posted 9/17/11
Honestly i never knew either, and then i started listening to her (it) and i have to say, considering the fact that shes not real it's impressive what they can achieve with technology now. I can kind of understand the popularity, i mean for one thing shes not real, so that means no ageing or anything of that sort, no dying that's for sure. No celebrity crap, plus anyone that's into anime or manga is definitely gonna like her (once again, its) aesthetics, and whereas a real life celebrities comments/beliefs may crush a fan's dreams, all Miku has to do is make music to gain followers. But yah it's kind of creepy when people treat her like she's an actual human being.
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Posted 9/17/11
Dude, She's got a LEEK.
Need I say more?
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