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Sailor V and Sailor Moon manga!!
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Posted 9/18/11 , edited 9/18/11
Well people, you can finally purchase them now. Both have been released on the 13th, and I just bought them today.

Good news for all of us.....the original names, attacks, everything was kept intact!!! No cousins, no "Darien", no Zoisite being a woman (I know it's different in the manga but still), no "Serena", or any of that other BS!! I also like that they kept the full title of "Pretty Soldier Sailor Moon". Kodansha Comics gets it. They listened to the real fans such as myself and didn't cut corners or added in any references from one of the most horrible dubs ever produced. So that means all you folks who never saw the original anime or read the original manga...get ready to be re-taught everything about the series.

For fans like me, this is the first time that we are reading the manga. But for all of us, it is our first time reading the adventures of Minako Aino too!! As you know, Codename Sailor V takes place before Pretty Soldier Sailor Moon. So I'm reading that first.

So when you're finished reading this, go out there and get the mangas! And BTW, this is being released on a bi-monthly basis. And for busy folks like me...that's a good thing.

I'm hoping that the sales of the manga will lead to Funimation completely re-dubbing the anime in the same way Kodansha did with the manga...with some excellent voice work. (Bridget Hoffman for the role of Usagi/SailorMoon in her Miaka Yuki-style voice. She's perfect for this role! Make it happen, Funimation!)

For those who have it already, what do you think of it so far?

And hopefully, this will phase out any and all references of the horrible english dub from the minds of most of you.

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well considering that the original publisher for sailor moon is kodansha its not surprising they wouldnt alter the revival sure if they had wanted to for the north american re release they probably could have used tokyopop's altered names but since i doubt that kodansha and the artist were overly happy with alteration in the first place they decided to go with the original. eventually i plan to buy both sailor moon and sailor V to read the manga as i never have read the manga only watched the dub back in the late 90s. sure parts of the dub were bad but as a whole they didnt bother me but since i havent watched the original subbed version 100% other then to watch the last set of the series that was never dubbed i do know that i would like to see sailor moon redubbed in its complete series. now its really unknown if that will ever happen seeing as the licensing cost of sailor moon is probably what is keeping another company from purchasing the rights to redub sailor moon but who knows it could happen
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FOR SERIOUS!?

That is so great to hear! :'D

.......well, not for my budget but.....XD

I'm glad they're FINALLY giving them the treatment they deserve!!
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Bought both Sailor Moon and Sailor V volume one last weekend. Impressed.

Looking at the credits page, I noticed the name William Flanagan. I think this might be the same person as Bill Flanagan, who did quite a bit of work with Viz and Del Ray.

I recall that the old Mixx/Tokyopop translation used most of the Dic/Cloverway dub names. Also, I remember it had some typos and consistencies. It was also about five dollars cheaper than other trade paperbacks that were in English at the time. And while some of the vintage Mixx/Tokyopop collections may have been low quality, they got released quickly, and may have encouraged other companies to release translated trade paperbacks more than every six months or so.

Now in 2011, it looks like the mid-2000s growth in manga translations is over. Furthermore, all media on paper is getting seriously challenged. And it's still not clear if the future of the media will be with services such as JManga, or on tablets. It's kind of a shame that these Naoko Takeuchi books aren't available on iTunes or similar programs...
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kellyco22 wrote:

Well considering that the original publisher for sailor moon is kodansha, its not surprising they wouldn't alter the revival. Sure if they had wanted to for the north american re release they probably could have used tokyopop's altered names. But since I doubt that kodansha and the artist were overly happy with alteration in the first place, they decided to go with the original.

Eventually I plan to buy both sailor moon and sailor V to read the manga as I never have read the manga, only watched the dub back in the late 90s. Sure parts of the dub were bad, but as a whole they didn't bother me. But since I haven't watched the original subbed version 100% other then to watch the last set of the series that was never dubbed. I do know that I would like to see sailor moon re-dubbed in its complete series.

Now its really unknown if that will ever happen seeing as the licensing cost of sailor moon is probably what is keeping another company from purchasing the rights to re-dub sailor moon but who knows it could happen


Corrected for easier reading. ^^^^^

Kelly I'm gonna tell you this now, the manga of Pretty Soldier Sailor Moon starts out similar with the anime, but that's where the similarities end. As much as I love the anime, you're gonna find out quickly that the manga is much much better than the anime, and not to mention a more darker tone too.

If I were you, I'd start with Codename: Sailor V first, since this was the prequel to Pretty Soldier Sailor Moon. Then you'll see why Minako was a very important character throughout the series.

One more thing, you say that some parts of the dub were bad. Believe me there were a ton of parts that were bad, and even insulting to the intelligence of the viewer. Uranus and Neptune being "cousins" and not lesbian lovers, or Zoicite being voiced and acted as a "woman" when anyone with a brain can easily see it's a man who had a homosexual relationship with Kunsite. The dub even started off with the moon kingdom scene that was hacked to death, but in the original this was a very important scene throughout that first season towards the end of that season!!! So they ALREADY gave away part of the whole story right there!!! Just some examples of MANY MANY things that all but killed this entire product in the united states. And the sad thing is, some people STILL remember one of the worse anime dubs of all time.

Funimation is gonna purchase the license to the anime depending on how the manga sells. Or they might shock me and announce they have the license at Otakon or something next year, since it's going to be the 20th anniversary of Pretty Soldier Sailor Moon.

Once that announcement is made, there I go with a petition for Bridget Hoffman to voice act Usagi/Sailor Moon in that Miaka Yuki-style voice. Now I know some of you probably cringed at that, given all the negativity I've seen of that character in Fushigi Yuugi. But imagine that kind of voice used on Usagi, and it would make a lot of sense. I guess I could roll out with a list of other VAs I'd get for the re-dub too.

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kellyco22 wrote:
One more thing, you say that some parts of the dub were bad. Believe me there were a ton of parts that were bad, and even insulting to the intelligence of the viewer. Uranus and Neptune being "cousins" and not lesbian lovers, or Zoicite being voiced and acted as a "woman" when anyone with a brain can easily see it's a man who had a homosexual relationship with Kunsite. The dub even started off with the moon kingdom scene that was hacked to death, but in the original this was a very important scene throughout that first season towards the end of that season!!! So they ALREADY gave away part of the whole story right there!!! Just some examples of MANY MANY things that all but killed this entire product in the united states. And the sad thing is, some people STILL remember one of the worse anime dubs of all time.


Oh come on, are people still not over that? This was in the 90's, parents would have had a damn fit over seeing homosexuality in a kids show. It was bad, but at least two good things came from it.

1. It introduced the US to Sailor Moon, enabling people like me to get into anime.
2. Sailor Moon Abridged

Speaking of the manga, I pre-ordered mine but it still hasn't arrived.
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RozenHaela

Oh come on, are people still not over that? This was in the 90's, parents would have had a damn fit over seeing homosexuality in a kids show. It was bad, but at least two good things came from it.


The hilarious thing was, Cloverway did SUCH a bad job trying to cover it up, you'd have to be mentally retarded to actually buy the cousin idea.

Actually that'd make it worse. Not only are they lesbians, now they're INCEST LESBIANS.

rofl.

Actually I was fooled into thinking Zoisite WAS really a woman.

1. The voice actress did a good job.
2. No man should ever have hair that flowing or eyelashes THAT long.
3. I actually prefer the sex change for this character. lulz
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quite honestly even today people have a massive problem with homosexuality after all many homophobes use the internet as their soapbox to spout their views and when they get negative backlash over it they cry foul.

it will be interesting if/when the sailor moon anime is re-licensed and if with that there is a redub as well i'll wait to see the announcement about the licensing rights having been bought before i make any kind of suggestions for english voices i'd like to hear as the characters. the one thing i hope happens if that does happen is that the entire sailor moon series is dubbed as the first time around the entire series was not dubbed.

i do plan to purchase both sailor moon and sailor v but it will have to wait a bit. as i'm aware with all anime adaptions of manga there is always more information about the characters in the manga then is animated.
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My copies of Sailor Moon and Sailor V arrived today. I'm not going to read them until the entire thing is out, but I did flip through the pages and the first thing I noticed was the c o l o r pages! I LOVE color pages! Sailor V is thick. The last volume will be out in November so I don't have to wait as long to read that at least. I'm so excited that I'll actually be able to finally read Sailor Moon. It's going to be a while before all of Sailor Moon is out, but it'll be worth the wait.
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Erm I bet if Funimation did a dub they would use there most over used voice actor. Vic mc derp derp, who's only good role is Ikkaku in Bleach.

If I get the chance I might give the manga a read. I thought the series was ok (since I watched it for the first time as a teen) but it got a bit much after a while.
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I have to wonder if any US company would want to risk the cost of re-dubbing Sailor Moon. It's an old title and the ADV uncut versions didn't sell as well as they'd hoped. I know they weren't dubbed, but still... I own the ADV versions btw and am a fan of the series, but I have to question who'd risk dubbing it. Re-releasing it subbed, probably, but dubbed...

Funimation DID do a survey in 2009 to see if fans would support a dub and they have stated that they would like the license, so maybe...
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RozenHaela

Oh come on, are people still not over that? This was in the 90's, parents would have had a damn fit over seeing homosexuality in a kids show. It was bad, but at least two good things came from it.


The hilarious thing was, Cloverway did SUCH a bad job trying to cover it up, you'd have to be mentally retarded to actually buy the cousin idea.

Actually that'd make it worse. Not only are they lesbians, now they're INCEST LESBIANS.

rofl.

Actually I was fooled into thinking Zoisite WAS really a woman.

1. The voice actress did a good job.
2. No man should ever have hair that flowing or eyelashes THAT long.
3. I actually prefer the sex change for this character. lulz


You know what they say "Incest is Wincest!".
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I have my copies for both and the volumes are thick which is a plus for me because I love when the volumes are thick i feel like I get my money worth and love the color pages too!
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hikaruandabbey wrote:

I have to wonder if any US company would want to risk the cost of re-dubbing Sailor Moon. It's an old title and the ADV uncut versions didn't sell as well as they'd hoped. I know they weren't dubbed, but still... I own the ADV versions btw and am a fan of the series, but I have to question who'd risk dubbing it. Re-releasing it subbed, probably, but dubbed...

Funimation DID do a survey in 2009 to see if fans would support a dub and they have stated that they would like the license, so maybe...



This coming from someone who has a picture of Emperor Pilaf, who happens to be from a title that is older than Pretty Soldier Sailor Moon....which Funimation just so happened to get the license of and turn into a big selling product here in america.

So don't give me this "old title" excuse. If they can make Dragonball/Z/GT successful, they can make Pretty Soldier Sailor Moon successful with a re-dub retaining all the original names, references, attacks, etc.

And where is the risk coming from? If you think it's from putting it on TV then you're mistaken. There's a lot of magical girl shows that are out there and they aren't on TV...yet has a large fanbase. Not to mention, some of them have been dubbed too.

The only reason the ADV DVDs didn't sell well because it's simple:

It came out at the worst time, a time where the product was already low on popularity and many folks have moved on. Not to mention, it didn't help that CWi's pathetic, insulting, excuse of dubbing the anime versions of S and SuperS further damaged any crediblity PSSM had here in the states.

Now that the 20th anniversary is coming up, now was the time to re-ignite interest into this product again. And this time, it's being done RIGHT! It starts with completely re-dubbing the manga and making the translations exactly the way it was supposed to be in the first place....hell even bringing Codename: Sailor V here for the very first time!! It starts with that, and hopefully it sells well and Funimation finally re-dubs the entire anime the same way the manga is being re-dubbed.

The popularity will come back, and it even forms a ton of new fans too if this takes off. And I like this "taking my time" approch being done here, with releasing the manga bi-monthly, and seeing what the sales will be.

Already you're seeing shirts at hot topic, as well as other new merchandise bein created, and oh by the way....at Otakon 2011, I've seen up to 42 girls dressed as sailor senshi and about two dudes dressed as Tuxedo Kamen. I also saw some of the bad guys too! And when Otakon 2012 comes around.....(here's my prediction!) holy shit will the cosplay be dominated by Pretty Soldier Sailor Moon!! Do not underestimate the fans and the popularity of this product.

As you probably should know now, I'm one of THE biggest male fans of Pretty Soldier Sailor Moon, and a long time advocate of this product finally getting the propery treatment it so badly deserved. And now it's finally happening, starting with the re-dub of the manga being translated the way it's supposed to be. You've seen me go around in posts and such whenever PSSM is mentioned or brought up, to see if anyone is referencing one of THE all time worst english dubbed animes.
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Yep. Emperor Pilaf is from Dragonball, which is a shounen title and shounen titles generally do much better in the states than shoujo anime. It's strange because shoujo manga sells quite well, but there are a lot more flops than hits when it gets translated to anime. Once again, I'm a fan of the series and of shoujo and mahou shoujo series, but they typically don't sell as well. There may be a fanbase out there, but they don't buy the titles. And if they don't buy the titles, Funimation loses money.

I couldn't care less if the show airs on TV, in fact, that would be awesome. But aside from the old Sailor Moon dub, what other magic girl titles have been on TV and been a hit? The risk I speak of is Funimation sinking a lot of money into the title and then not recouping their cost. Once again, it looks like there is a lot of interest in Sailor Moon right now, but shoujo anime hits in America are few and far between.
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