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Maybe we should just focus on developing ONE site? (Like just here on crunchyroll forum)
I remember the other contests where I was desperately searching for news by hunting and pecking for information on old Crunchyroll news threads, and the ComiPo forum, or on the facebook page, which didn't all seem to be well coordinated.
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These forums are already here. I just wish there was an easier way for people to find them.
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Posted 4/4/12

KrimsonGray wrote:

These forums are already here. I just wish there was an easier way for people to find them.


Very true.
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Wahaha~ CR banned me for a day.
Anyway, I don't think we need a new forum, we just need to let people know about the forum that exists.
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Wow. I had no idea any of this was going on. I'm so out of the loop when it comes to comipo.
I like the idea of contests and tutorials, I can use some pointers although I don't really like any comipo comic, (including my own) even the supposedly "great" ones. Just my opinion.

As for paying the 15 bucks. I think I will hold out and wait for the clothing packs and see how much they are. If it's higher than the Japanese clothes packs then screw it. I don't see how anyone can even justify the 15 dollars anyway. The English users didn't tell the company to give us the English version for cheap. They gave it to us cheaply because it wasn't on par with the Japanese version. Now that they feel it is they want to off set the initial cheap price by charging us for a free package. Bad move on their part.
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I've made liberal use of the backgrounds for my last few pages, so its worth it to me.
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Honestly I just want the character costume packs and summer uniforms with the yellow sweaters and stuff. Once they give that I'll be able to make manga pages like crazy. They really just need to put them out. Had I known the wait would take so long..I just would have bought the Japanese version and paid the extra money..
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I've thought about that and might still do that after I get another computer (and explaining why I need 6). Still, I let my comic lapse too long because of lack of options, and decided to just go with the tools at hand.
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Yeah, I can't make any manga too, because it's weird to start with clothing as it is now. It totally wrecks imagination. So we still need to wait, even if it's annoying. If I had not paid for english version, I could go for japanese one, but whatever.
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Posted 4/18/12 , edited 6/18/12

Spectre77 wrote:

Im hardly a corporate apologist. Hell, ill be the first in line to condemn the ComiPo staff when they do actually do something legitimately stupid, but in the end all of its just looking out for my own interests.


Charging people money for free content isn't legitimately stupid?
I would say that you sir, are legitimately stupid.
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Posted 4/19/12 , edited 4/19/12
I'm sure this is going to be like reasoning with a brick wall but...

Tell me, would you have paid $82 USD for ComiPo (the Japanese DL price). Given what the majority of the western market see's as a 'fair price' for software, I imagine that if they had marketed the software at the same price that they do for the Japanese version then the overall amount of sales would have been MUCH lower than they have been. No doubt the people at ComiPo LLP had the same thoughts, and so they aimed to lower the ticket price in order to promote more sales, and balanced the overall price with an optional DLC.

Now, I know what your going to say. Why didnt they just give us the software at a cheaper rate if they wanted to lower the purchase price to make it more accessible to EN users? Simple answer, avoiding reverse importation (and a loss of $30 - $50 dollars per unit).

Now, im not going to say this was the perfect solution and that they have done no wrong. Not giving us a heads up about this earlier was definatly underhanded and deceptive, and if you want to be angry about that then I can completely and totally understand (becasue im not to happy about it either). That said, raging about the free items having to be paid for is a logical fallacy, becasue as I have already pointed ou, the price for the Japanese version ALREADY factored in those updates, the Japanese users ALREADY paid for them when they purchased the program.

All in all, were got the better deal in all of this becasue we could decide whether we wanted to pay the extra money or not, were as the Japanese either had to pay for it or no program.

Now, if they do this again and take us significantly over the $10 gap that still remains between the EN and JP versions prices then ill concede that you have a perfectly valid point and no doubt I will join your side of the argument as well, but until that time your getting angry over the wrong things (and making an ass of yourself, which isn't exactly going to help any of us).

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But you seem to be forgetting a very important fact.
ComiPo came out in Japan over a year ago, and the DLC came out only a few months after that. We still do not even have all of the FREE content available to the Japanese version in the English version. They are deliberately holding back content to create the illusion of constant new updates. Why should we support a company that is holding back updates just so they can make money off of idiots who don't know any better?

When ComiPo came out in English, on DAY ONE, we should have had ALL current updates and ALL the DLC should have been part of the package, and ComiPo has not even attempted to give us anywhere NEAR that. Their customer service is a joke and their greed knows no bounds.
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Again, im with you on some of those points, and not on others. Considering the period between the Japanese release and announcement of the coming English release I to am a little baffled as to why the extra content wasn't developed and released for both versions of the program at the same time, since that strikes me as a far more logical decision.

However, I disagree and can find no logical basis for the idea that we should have been given all of the DLC from day 1. To make it available for purchase on the same day would certainly have been the best thing to do, but to make it free would have been a little on the ridiculous side.

Think about it. There were (I think) 4 DLC packs available for ComiPo at the time the EN version became available right, totaling a sum of 4,935 yen (about $60 USD) which is more than we even paid for the whole program. Your basically saying that the company should have given us their product at a third of its true retail price. And if they did that, then that reverse importation issue comes up again, but this time with an even greater loss margin.

Or they could have increased the basic price to compensate for the added content, but then you get a loss of sales becasue the westerners are being stingy, so that avenue dosent work from a business perspective either.

Now, I know your usual response to this, its 'but we had to wait for a year for it'. But that's not correct, English ComiPo, which is the product we are concerned with, hasn't even been available that long. Its not really fair to demand a reduction in price for them not releasing a content pack to a product that didn't exist.

I'll say that they are being greedy when I pay more for the same level of content as the Japanese users did, not until then.
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Again, im with you on some of those points, and not on others. Considering the period between the Japanese release and announcement of the coming English release I to am a little baffled as to why the extra content wasn't developed and released for both versions of the program at the same time, since that strikes me as a far more logical decision.

However, I disagree and can find no logical basis for the idea that we should have been given all of the DLC from day 1. To make it available for purchase on the same day would certainly have been the best thing to do, but to make it free would have been a little on the ridiculous side.

Think about it. There were (I think) 4 DLC packs available for ComiPo at the time the EN version became available right, totaling a sum of 4,935 yen (about $60 USD) which is more than we even paid for the whole program. Your basically saying that the company should have given us their product at a third of its true retail price. And if they did that, then that reverse importation issue comes up again, but this time with an even greater loss margin.

Or they could have increased the basic price to compensate for the added content, but then you get a loss of sales becasue the westerners are being stingy, so that avenue dosent work from a business perspective either.

Now, I know your usual response to this, its 'but we had to wait for a year for it'. But that's not correct, English ComiPo, which is the product we are concerned with, hasn't even been available that long. Its not really fair to demand a reduction in price for them not releasing a content pack to a product that didn't exist.

I'll say that they are being greedy when I pay more for the same level of content as the Japanese users did, not until then.


The purpose of DLC is to add additional content post-release. If it is re-released in another region, it should come with all of the DLC.
That is all I have to say on the matter.
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Posted 4/19/12 , edited 4/19/12
Theres 'come with' and then there's 'come with'. While it defiantly would have been nice, its just not feasible from a business perspective no matter how you slice it. This is one of those times we have to look past what our own desires are and see what's actually realistic.

But still, all that aside, as the consumer of their product and the ones who ultimately put food on their table, we do have the right to let them know when we are dissatisfied with their conduct and to help them to shape their services in the future to better suit our needs and expectations. But in doing this, we also have a responsibility both to them and to our fellow community members to provide our feedback in a coherent, fair and acceptable manner. Theres this saying that goes 'he who shouts has his words heard but their meaning forgotten', and its very true. Better to be civil and work with them toward progress than to rage and work against them to our own detriment.
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