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Can hate really make you successful?
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Posted 10/9/11
i love apple products. I like Simon Cowell, because I agree with most of his judgements on "American Idol".
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i live off of hate.......
someone kill me........
i do though... my friend dared me to be nice to everyone i hate for a week and by the end of the week i was so drained of energy i collapsed on my bed at 5 and fell asleep until 10 the next day...
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Crystabuni wrote:

i live off of hate.......
someone kill me........
i do though... my friend dared me to be nice to everyone i hate for a week and by the end of the week i was so drained of energy i collapsed on my bed at 5 and fell asleep until 10 the next day...


Life, you're doing it wrong. The majority of people are random noise. No sense in giving them undue attention. Love? Hate? I'm too ambivalent about people to much care. Why waste energy on other random people? Unless they're immediate family or friends they're not worth thinking about. To hate on others that are merely around you is a total waste of time and energy. You said it was draining to be nice, hate and nice are two sides of the same coin and take equal energy to address. Are you so weak in character as to worry about what anyone else thinks about you? You'll outgrow that with age (hopefully).
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Posted 10/9/11
Nobody likes Simon Cowell? What? Stop talking shit, I'd go gay for that bloke.
Posted 10/9/11

CarboKill wrote:

Nobody likes Simon Cowell? What? Stop talking shit, I'd go gay for that bloke.


Have you seen American Idol? Tell me his friends names? Tell me what his fans did for his birthday,

Let me guess...... Nothing.

How many American Idol Contestants walk away with a positive opinion of Simon?

How many X Factor contestants walk away with a positive opinion of Simon?

He doesn't get hate because he's a judge, no other critic in American Idol's history has as much hate as Simon Cowell.
Posted 10/9/11
Yes. Everybody feeds off of hate, it's the most basic of emotional nourishment for the soul. I've never owned an Apple product, but mainly because I've never had a need to. I've also never listened to any songs of this "Justing Bieber" or "Rebecca Black", but that's because I naturally just hate most music. But I don't go around trolling them, and I can't understand why people do. I guess it's jealousy.

Jealousy and hate come hand-in-hand. If you see one, you'll see the other.
Posted 10/9/11

Jealousy and hate come hand-in-hand. If you see one, you'll see the other.


That's makes plenty of sense, I can see how hate and jealously could come together, although that would mean that teenage guys are jealous of Justin, and teenage girls are jealous of Rebecca.


but that's because I naturally just hate most music.


Never heard that one before, I never had hate come naturally to me so I wouldn't understand this one, but I couldn't naturally hate something, not even if I tired.
Posted 10/10/11

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Jealousy and hate come hand-in-hand. If you see one, you'll see the other.


That's makes plenty of sense, I can see how hate and jealously could come together, although that would mean that teenage guys are jealous of Justin, and teenage girls are jealous of Rebecca.


but that's because I naturally just hate most music.


Never heard that one before, I never had hate come naturally to me so I wouldn't understand this one, but I couldn't naturally hate something, not even if I tired.


You must have quite the sheltered life if you've never felt hatred. I guess there's always somebody like that. Everybody can hate, don't believe for a second that you can't. I hate music because of voices, I can't stand them. I have a hard time just watching T.V shows and anime due to my hatred of people talking.

One day somebody will wrong you grievously, and you will know hate.

Posted 10/10/11

You must have quite the sheltered life if you've never felt hatred. I guess there's always somebody like that. Everybody can hate, don't believe for a second that you can't. I hate music because of voices, I can't stand them. I have a hard time just watching T.V shows and anime due to my hatred of people talking.

One day somebody will wrong you grievously, and you will know hate.



I never said I never felt hatred, I felt it before.

I said hate never came to me naturally,

You said you just naturally hate most music, and apparently people talking,

I don't hate naturally, I usually have a reason for why I hate someone or thing, hate doesn't flow through my veins naturally though,

But you hate people talking apparently.
Posted 10/10/11

Aero-Mach wrote:


You must have quite the sheltered life if you've never felt hatred. I guess there's always somebody like that. Everybody can hate, don't believe for a second that you can't. I hate music because of voices, I can't stand them. I have a hard time just watching T.V shows and anime due to my hatred of people talking.

One day somebody will wrong you grievously, and you will know hate.



I never said I never felt hatred, I felt it before.

I said hate never came to me naturally,

You said you just naturally hate most music, and apparently people talking,

I don't hate naturally, I usually have a reason for why I hate someone or thing, hate doesn't flow through my veins naturally though,

But you hate people talking apparently.


But experiencing emotions is a natural process. If you somehow make yourself feel them, then it's not an actual emotion. A la you're basically saying that you have never hated anything before...

Or, wait, what? I'm so confused.
Posted 10/10/11

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Aero-Mach wrote:


You must have quite the sheltered life if you've never felt hatred. I guess there's always somebody like that. Everybody can hate, don't believe for a second that you can't. I hate music because of voices, I can't stand them. I have a hard time just watching T.V shows and anime due to my hatred of people talking.

One day somebody will wrong you grievously, and you will know hate.



I never said I never felt hatred, I felt it before.

I said hate never came to me naturally,

You said you just naturally hate most music, and apparently people talking,

I don't hate naturally, I usually have a reason for why I hate someone or thing, hate doesn't flow through my veins naturally though,

But you hate people talking apparently.


But experiencing emotions is a natural process. If you somehow make yourself feel them, then it's not an actual emotion. A la you're basically saying that you have never hated anything before...

Or, wait, what? I'm so confused.


Actually, you're kinda right,

I'll rephrase it,

I need to have a more elaborate reason to hate people talking, I just don't hate things like talking in general.

Better?
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Posted 10/10/11
Is this thread really about hate making you successful? It really sounds like it poses the question whether or not hatred makes you famous... The obvious answer to the latter is yes, it can, but just about anything can make you famous these days, all you really need is the right timing. If you want to know what makes you successful, the answer is simple. Passion. Passion, and acting on that passion will make you successful. Hatred often gets directed into passion which leads to success.
Posted 10/10/11
it depends on what you actually hate and how you deal. like for example:

"i hate the world that turned their back on me so much that i'm gonna do somethings completely awersome to make them think twice about not believing in me!"

in other words, hate is nice and all.. it's definitely a strong emotion that can fuel the fire but don't forget to turn your hate into something positive.

i know, pure b.s. But it works
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Posted 10/10/11
I think talking about Apple as much as you did is a bad idea, as that forces debate, when Apple is not supposed to be the topic here. I can rationalize some of your curiosities, but I'll stay on topic.

There's a long-standing saying that "There's no such thing as bad publicity". There is much truth to this, because publicity is publicity. People may be saying bad stuff, but they're saying stuff. Many products go completely unheard of, and accordingly have little chance of profiting. However all this negative talk makes it so everybody knows the name. And from that, curious people will properly look into what it's all about. That detail right there is a HUGE opportunity to businesses. People may wind up becoming customers, whereas if they never heard of it, there'd be no opportunity for that to happen.

No normal business would encourage you to talk negatively about their product, but they will go to many lengths to get people to share opinions and talk about it. This way of thinking is partly reflected in news. They LOVE to report on negative or scandelous matters over other possibilities. It will hold peoples' attention, and people tend to generate stronger negative opinions than positive ones. People are also more likely to talk about negative opinions than when they're content.

Indeed I know the names of Justin Bieber and Rebecca Black, though I don't know much more than their names. No matter how you slice it, that means they're famous. When it comes to anything famous, you should assume there is merit to them achieving that status. However I avoid mainstream music, the only reason I carry against checking them out. Most of what I know of them is through parody, whatwith 13 year olds singing while dangerously driving. As far as I can guess, Bieber didn't capture the point: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbNwvQXkYrY
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Yes, very much actually. And, in other cases, not at all....
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