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Nice Guys Finish Last, A-holes Finish First
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Posted 10/10/11
Unless I've misread the question and comprehended it wrongly, I don't think it's a matter of finishing first or last, it's the journey and all that in it that counts. And that would probably tell you whether you're a nice guy or the opposite of it.
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23 / M / New Jersey, U.S.A.
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Its true my kindness loses out to some wanna-be gangster every time. I'm the kind of guy that would do anything to see his girl smile as compared to some A-hole that ignores them. Well that just means the ladies are missing out.
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not a chance XD I love the mysterious, nerdy, weedy, cute type; there's nothing I hate more then jock meat-heads who only wants to get in your pants
Posted 10/11/11
Example: "I treat her like crap but she still likes me I am so hot". You're feeding their ego, just leave them alone. A bit of banter is fine and a lot of fun with guys but if it turns out they are genuinely dicks don't bother.

Posted 10/11/11

DeusExMachine wrote:


Dave1004 wrote:



Yeah...D&D, Card games, video games, collecting cheap half-naked plastic figurines...

Lots of hobbies!


To get back on topic, there are some of what we call "alpha males" that delve into the geeky. They too appreciate entertainment of the likes we do aside from wooing the females.

And the figurines can be rather expensive.


Of course everybody dabbles in something out of the norm. It's how we find new pleasures to sate out personal palette. Nobody said you had to be a nerd to play Dungeons and Dragons, but so to is the fact that you don't have to NOT be a nerd to play, say, soccer.

What the heck is expensive about a mass-produced piece of plastic?

Posted 10/11/11

Dave1004 wrote:


DeusExMachine wrote:


Dave1004 wrote:



Yeah...D&D, Card games, video games, collecting cheap half-naked plastic figurines...

Lots of hobbies!


To get back on topic, there are some of what we call "alpha males" that delve into the geeky. They too appreciate entertainment of the likes we do aside from wooing the females.

And the figurines can be rather expensive.


Of course everybody dabbles in something out of the norm. It's how we find new pleasures to sate out personal palette. Nobody said you had to be a nerd to play Dungeons and Dragons, but so to is the fact that you don't have to NOT be a nerd to play, say, soccer.

What the heck is expensive about a mass-produced piece of plastic?



Well, let's figure on the price of dildos then.... lol
Posted 10/11/11


Well, good luck on that...

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Posted 10/11/11
In my opinion, I think its the confidence. A lot of nice guys dont have very much of it. A-holes have too much of it. In short, get that confidence up and talk to that girl you like!
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Posted 10/11/11
it seems like this scenario only exists in movies....but uh i dont really care if it occurs outside of them too, eh you finish when you finish.
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Posted 10/11/11
this is a very popular topic! speaking from experience the nice guy will not do very well in the begining especially when they are young they tend to be the "best bud" and spiritual boy friend giving the girl the emotional support without any of the action!

now i was a friend zone guy like you wouldn't believe . As i got older i learned some of the old cliche's have a ring of truth with them. i would be interested in a girl then when she would give me the just friends line i would almost abandon her or become friends with her and then show interest in other women and for some reason that makes a girl go nuts and suddenly they need to be back on top of your lust list. now for the evil guys out there you can use this to your advantage. But never make the mistake of being the rebound guy or the second choice.

the biggest problem nice guys will have is sometimes they are attracted to the wrong type of girl. the girl who only likes the bad boy and so fourth.
some people have already mentioned before that some girls don't outgrow that need for bad boys till they are ready to settle down(sometimes years down the road). so that can be frustrating . In those cases you can only A) try to change or B ) cut your loses and try to meet someone new.

being assertive and what not will only work if the girl is open to the nice guy. There are girls i know who are only into the dirty hippie guy /biker out law even if a nice clean cut guy is crazy for her.

ultimately i think it's about where you are in life . IF your young in highschool or college our out in the real world. people change and tastes can change just dont let it bend you out of shape.
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Posted 10/11/11

BHawthorne wrote:


DeusExMachine wrote:

If you're a guy, and there are quite a few on CR, then you should know how women tend to never feel attraction for a nice guy. Do you agree with this assessment?


Wrong, non-assertive guys finish last. If you don't have a backbone, you lose the race before it starts.


this is true. hahahaha
Posted 10/11/11 , edited 10/11/11

Rennoci wrote:

Early in life when most girls have no idea what they want in someone/relationship sure, later in life when we mature not so much. Of course some women will always be with an asshole, but most of us grow out of that and just end up with a normal nice guy. I can say the same about boys/men though why do men tend to be attracted to crazy drama queen women over nice ones??


Looks over persnalerty I guess but I like persnalerty more but locks help but she don't have be the best looking love some one for how they are
Posted 10/11/11

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Well, good luck on that...



We all need luck when love becomes the issue.
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Posted 10/11/11
girls like a good book. what your talking about is the cover page and commentaries on the back. basically what i'm saying is that you need to be apealing in some way.

you gatta define nice guy. the ones being defined is one who lets the girl pass by, she probably is interested but you just think she's outta your league(you actually need to know/talk to her). your the unclean and lazy type... speaks for itself. unsociallable type... she needs some form of adventure and comfort. creepy... again speaks for itself. the cocky nice guy.

i myself can be considered all the above. was friends with one of the most beautiful girl ever. she got a boyfriend (one of the most cliche situations) cuz she was tired of being lonely. but she finally broke up, and she's mine

yea it only really works when its someone close you know i guess. last thing you need to is to look like a gay friend who shes comfortable to be around with. which i thought i was once, but turns out i was wrong.

i guess what tipped the scale for me was i was more spontaneous and did things girls considered romantic. buying a cake for their birthday even though they don't celebrate it for one.

just a tip if you get her, girls love to get random flower gifts once in a while.
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Posted 10/15/11
Lean more towards agreeing...
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