Series Popularity
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Posted 10/18/11 , edited 10/18/11
Dear Crunchy,

How do you all know which shows are popular? I'm thinking of some metrics that tell you how often each episode is viewed and when. Or, how much does forum activity and commenting come into play?


The point being, how do publishers decide which series to license, in terms of what they think will appeal to Crunchyroll viewers?


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Artfan wrote:

The point being, how do publishers decide which series to license, in terms of what they think will appeal to Crunchyroll viewers?

CR license literally everything they can., there's no selection criteria beyond not being porn.

No way to tell if a series will be popular before it's even been made. They have to negotiate licencing titles months in advance of broadcast and episodes are often finished the week before they air.



Artfan wrote:

Dear Crunchy,

How do you all know which shows are popular? I'm thinking of some metrics that tell you how often each episode is viewed and when. Or, how much does forum activity and commenting come into play?

Artfan

Just on video views, no point using a metric not connected to the income source.
CR pays it licensees on a per view basis. That's either: from the adverts in the free stream, or from a subscriber; the licensee cut of your subscription is split between the videos you watch that month.
So they have good metrics of which show are drawing what type of viewers, if there's a correlation between viewers of one show and another they should be able to see that.

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Artfan wrote:

The point being, how do publishers decide which series to license, in terms of what they think will appeal to Crunchyroll viewers?

CR license literally everything they can., there's no selection criteria beyond not being porn.

No way to tell if a series will be popular before it's even been made. They have to negotiate licencing titles months in advance of broadcast and episodes are often finished the week before they air.



Artfan wrote:

Dear Crunchy,

How do you all know which shows are popular? I'm thinking of some metrics that tell you how often each episode is viewed and when. Or, how much does forum activity and commenting come into play?

Artfan

Just on video views, no point using a metric not connected to the income source.
CR pays it licensees on a per view basis. That's either: from the adverts in the free stream, or from a subscriber; the licensee cut of your subscription is split between the videos you watch that month.
So they have good metrics of which show are drawing what type of viewers, if there's a correlation between viewers of one show and another they should be able to see that.



So, it sounds like you're saying that Crunchy does know which shows are viewed and how often, because this is how they pay the licensing companies. Regarding which shows get licensed, however:

I am aware that Crunchy licenses whatever they can get their hands on. Here's the scenario I had in mind:

Publisher says, "We'll license this show to you if it will make us money, but how do we know it will be popular?" Crunchyroll replies, "These shows right here are very well-received, so we believe your new show will be a hit! Let us stream it!"
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well alot of anime are not 100 percently out of the blue. its either from a manga or a game. the more popular it is the better chances there are to licensing em. unlike a certain american networks, who license anime from japan only on fanbase over there, they don't check out the contents resulting in crappy editing. crunchyroll check it out, with the fanbase on the type of show here they can tell what we might be interested in. of course forums will come into play if noticed, but they aren't ganna go through em often if so.
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Artfan wrote:
So, it sounds like you're saying that Crunchy does know which shows are viewed and how often, because this is how they pay the licensing companies. Regarding which shows get licensed, however:

I am aware that Crunchy licenses whatever they can get their hands on. Here's the scenario I had in mind:

Publisher says, "We'll license this show to you if it will make us money, but how do we know it will be popular?" Crunchyroll replies, "These shows right here are very well-received, so we believe your new show will be a hit! Let us stream it!"


They pull things like that, hence why certain countries are included in most licences. Some of the European countries have lots of premium members (who count for a lot more than free viewers), I know they've used arguments based on that before to get more regions.

Not sure on getting titles in the first place though, pretty much every show that can be is licensed for simulcast in the USA by now.
If they'd stop requiring the USA/Canada rights things could get more interesting in this regard.


wolfsaiga wrote:

well alot of anime are not 100 percently out of the blue. its either from a manga or a game. the more popular it is the better chances there are to licensing em. unlike a certain american networks, who license anime from japan only on fanbase over there, they don't check out the contents resulting in crappy editing. crunchyroll check it out, with the fanbase on the type of show here they can tell what we might be interested in. of course forums will come into play if noticed, but they aren't ganna go through em often if so.


Nope the only thing that really matters is that FUNimation, or Sentai Filmworks /Section 23/Anime Network hasn't already licensed it (or started to), they go after everything.

Edits like that haven't happened in years, and were only for broadcasting on TV. It's also really unusual for licencors to know the original work, if they did things like that Vampire Bund fiasco in the USA wouldn't happen (as that was all in the available in English totaly uncensored without complaints, manga)
Posted 10/19/11
Forum has nothing to do with it, it's all about the number of views.
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Posted 10/19/11

Artfan wrote:

Dear Crunchy,

How do you all know which shows are popular? I'm thinking of some metrics that tell you how often each episode is viewed and when. Or, how much does forum activity and commenting come into play?


The point being, how do publishers decide which series to license, in terms of what they think will appeal to Crunchyroll viewers?


mod edit: no double posting and it is moot point to sig your replies, we can read your user name.
~AHTL


Dear AHTL,

What do you mean by "double posting", please? It sounds to me like it's posting the same thing twice, but it must be something else.
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皆さん、ありがとう。I wanted to make sure I was properly supporting my favorite series in hopes of getting more seasons or similar titles. From what I'm hearing, simply watching the shows I enjoy is the best way to do this. Thanks!
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I come here to give my comment. That's all.
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