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OMG.... there is almost no new titles for those outside US....
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agila61 wrote:

But for South America, Africa, the Middle East, and the Northern European countries (Norway, Sweden, Finland, Iceland and sometimes Denmark), there seems to be little or nothing. And those are regions that Crunchyroll was having some luck getting, for series it was licensing directly from the original rights holder.


I can only speak for Denmark, but I'm sure it's the same in many other areas; here in Denmark we can forget getting anything licensed, so the only option for us are international distributors. In Denmark only the most mainstream of mainstream has even the slightest chance of getting licensed. The only things you will find on TV here are kids shows like Naruto and Beyblade and on store shelves you will only find shows from the beginning of last decade...

And I would by no means call the consumer base for anime here small. Conventions around here are attended by quite a crowd of fans. Not only that, but we have 3 major conventions each year, as well as smaller arrangements and they're all well-attended. And in addition to that, one has to remember that this country consists of only 5.5 million people.
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KanpekiJan wrote:


agila61 wrote:

But for South America, Africa, the Middle East, and the Northern European countries (Norway, Sweden, Finland, Iceland and sometimes Denmark), there seems to be little or nothing. And those are regions that Crunchyroll was having some luck getting, for series it was licensing directly from the original rights holder.


I can only speak for Denmark, but I'm sure it's the same in many other areas; here in Denmark we can forget getting anything licensed, so the only option for us are international distributors. In Denmark only the most mainstream of mainstream has even the slightest chance of getting licensed. The only things you will find on TV here are kids shows like Naruto and Beyblade and on store shelves you will only find shows from the beginning of last decade...


Same in Finland.

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All i can say is it's getting annoying not being able to watch half the anime on here, i do see why people go to pirate site's no region restrictions, why pay when you can get all the anime free
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KanpekiJan wrote: I can only speak for Denmark, but I'm sure it's the same in many other areas; here in Denmark we can forget getting anything licensed, so the only option for us are international distributors. In Denmark only the most mainstream of mainstream has even the slightest chance of getting licensed. The only things you will find on TV here are kids shows like Naruto and Beyblade and on store shelves you will only find shows from the beginning of last decade...

And I would by no means call the consumer base for anime here small. Conventions around here are attended by quite a crowd of fans. Not only that, but we have 3 major conventions each year, as well as smaller arrangements and they're all well-attended. And in addition to that, one has to remember that this country consists of only 5.5 million people.


Sir_Lexa wrote: Same in Finland.


South America had the Animax cable channel ~ but then it was converted to an all-live action, mostly US imported shows channel. And I'm less familiar with the Middle Eastern anime market, but AFAIU, there's a handful of anime picked up by cable/satellite channels.

There are some countries where the problem is competing rights (for instance, Animax Asia actually shows anime), but a range of countries where the problem is not competition for rights, but instead the problem that even a small overhead, like the contracting costs on both sides of drawing up a special contract for that country burning through too much of the expected revenues.

The way to cut down on contracting costs is to have standing deals in place, so the extra contracting costs can be spread across a larger stream of revenue.


Frede3000 wrote: OMG.... there is almost no new titles for those outside US....
Even if the last is another US & Canada only, it'll still be over half streaming outside the US, and more streaming outside the US than the total number Crunchyroll was streaming from a season a couple of years ago.

IOW, its not a total drought everwhere outside North America ~ the UK is getting a lot less than they were getting a few seasons ago, but more than they got last season. Australia/NZ is getting the same 40%~50% that they've been getting for the past year.

And while Southeast Asia has gotten only one sequel ~ Crunchyroll has had troubles getting streams for Southeast Asia (to complement the Naruto stream) ever since it went legit. So its a drought there, but the drought is nothing new.

The big change is in Northern Europe, which for multiple seasons was getting over 70% of series, and the South America / Middle East / Africa group, which was just getting to over 50%.

Crunchyroll needs to work out some deal with Sentai where Sentai is able to also bid for streaming rights outside of North America. That only works financially for Crunchyroll if Crunchyroll is guaranteed at least shared streaming rights inside North America, so it would require some sort of standing shared streaming deal with TAN. WIth that in place, Crunchyroll could put a larger direct offers to the original content owners for exclusive rights, and a smaller shared stream bid to Sentai, including the additional guaranteed income if additional countries outside the US and Canada are included in the share streaming rights.
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Maybe y'all should quit complaining and move to amarica.

I didn't know what to think about the anime until I watch all three episodes this evening, and I really enjoyed it. Good job cr, can't wait for the next episode!
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haha its okay. XD I just get a little iffy with minor things like that bc Canada always seems to be forgotten. =__=
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was hoping to see chibi devil or another :3
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Finally someone that's happy. ^^
People complain too much. T-T
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Finally a non battle anime that I like :]
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Better late than never. Thanks for streaming this series!
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agila61 wrote:

South America had the Animax cable channel ~ but then it was converted to an all-live action, mostly US imported shows channel. And I'm less familiar with the Middle Eastern anime market, but AFAIU, there's a handful of anime picked up by cable/satellite channels.

There are some countries where the problem is competing rights (for instance, Animax Asia actually shows anime), but a range of countries where the problem is not competition for rights, but instead the problem that even a small overhead, like the contracting costs on both sides of drawing up a special contract for that country burning through too much of the expected revenues.

The way to cut down on contracting costs is to have standing deals in place, so the extra contracting costs can be spread across a larger stream of revenue.


I did notice a paid channel on our digital satellite receiver, I actually think it's Animax. But even if there's a channel airing anime, it would likely be in English and I utterly despise dubs. I cannot take them...
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why am i even surprised its not in the uk
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KanpekiJan wrote: I did notice a paid channel on our digital satellite receiver, I actually think it's Animax. But even if there's a channel airing anime, it would likely be in English and I utterly despise dubs. I cannot take them...
Cable/satellite trumps streaming, at the moment, just like DVD/BD release trumps streaming ~ even though, as you note, its often dub-only, which is annoying for people who normally watch subs.

I don't have the faintest idea of either Animax-Europe or Animax-Asia's policy, but whether they were reasonable or unreasonable ... and its obviously silly to object to a subtitled simulcast stream if you are broadcasting dubs ... what Animax said would go.

Not only is Crunchyroll's licensing done in Tokyo, so negotiations with Animax-Europe would have to be long distance, Animax doesn't even have to take Crunchyroll's phone calls. The thing most likely to get noticed by Animax would be if their subscribers started writing to them to double check that they are not putting up any pointless roadblocks to anime streaming.
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Lesbians much? O.o
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