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dark_diablo wrote:

Drifting is so easy i always drift in the streets it easy 1 go to a speed of 60 or 50 and hold the e break and steer the handel and then press the breaks then dddddriiiiiiiift !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! coool


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HEY! So will anybody tell me more about that welding thing? Well I know what is welding, but what do I wheld? I know that it's something in the cars differntial but i don't know what exactly... So I would realy appreciate if someone would explain it to me more detailed.
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Jotvingis wrote:

HEY! So will anybody tell me more about that welding thing? Well I know what is welding, but what do I wheld? I know that it's something in the cars differntial but i don't know what exactly... So I would realy appreciate if someone would explain it to me more detailed.


i know what you are talking about but i'm not sure how it works.
i think welding your differential makes both tires turn at the same time.
the downside i know to it is that it puts more stress on your tires and stuff when you aren't drifting.
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Posted 11/15/08

InZanity1254 wrote:


Jotvingis wrote:

HEY! So will anybody tell me more about that welding thing? Well I know what is welding, but what do I wheld? I know that it's something in the cars differntial but i don't know what exactly... So I would realy appreciate if someone would explain it to me more detailed.


i know what you are talking about but i'm not sure how it works.
i think welding your differential makes both tires turn at the same time.
the downside i know to it is that it puts more stress on your tires and stuff when you aren't drifting.


well there was this guy a few pages back that said he din't like parking with welded differential, maby that's the down side of welding...
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Posted 11/15/08

Jotvingis wrote:


InZanity1254 wrote:


Jotvingis wrote:

HEY! So will anybody tell me more about that welding thing? Well I know what is welding, but what do I wheld? I know that it's something in the cars differntial but i don't know what exactly... So I would realy appreciate if someone would explain it to me more detailed.


i know what you are talking about but i'm not sure how it works.
i think welding your differential makes both tires turn at the same time.
the downside i know to it is that it puts more stress on your tires and stuff when you aren't drifting.


well there was this guy a few pages back that said he din't like parking with welded differential, maby that's the down side of welding...


hm, that would prove to be somewhat troublesome.

if you drive your car for a dd then its best to get an lsd because it will save on parts in long run but if its mainly a track or fun car then welding might be a good way too go.

did a search and found this on another forum.
maybe it will help more.

"Hey jt:

A posi rear end typically uses clutch packs to apply pressure to both axles to prevent one from spinning faster than the other until enough force is applied (such as going around a corner) to force the clutch to slip, allowing the inside tire to rotate more slowly than the outside.

A limited slip differential typically uses a cone-type affair to achieve the same results as a posi. The big difference is that a limited slip will "break loose" sooner than a posi, and it is also much quieter on the street.

To answer your question, technically, it is impossible to make a limited slip into a posi by simply welding anything, since even a posi is not a locked (or "solid axle") differential.

wileys_farm is entirely correct to caution you about welding your differential on the street. In fact, I can't believe people are still willing to try this!

The reason you should not run a welded differential (and also the reason they are banned by all drag racing sanctioning bodies, although I believe a few of the smaller circle track sanctioning bodies may still allow it on dirt tracks, but not on asphalt) is that it puts a tremendous strain on the carrier and the axles. If you are using a GM type of differential that uses C-clips to retain the axles (like a 10 or 12 bolt), it is entirely likely that the axle will break at this weakest point, thereby releasing your tire, wheel, brake drum, and a 2 or 3 foot long piece of axle to go whereever the heck it wants to go. It's first stop is usually your rear fender, where it will chew the heck out of a lot of sheetmetal.

If that's all that happens, consider yourself lucky. If an axle breaks at high speed, the car will swerve out of control and could kill someone else, or your broken parts could hurt or kill someone.

For anyone still wanting to experiment off-road with this type of modification, you would weld the spider gears to the carrier so that they cannot rotate independently of each other. The surfaces to be welded must be completely clean of all differential lubricant.

Considering that a spool can be purchased for under $100, and a good used posi differential can be had from a wrecking yard for that price or less, I would suggest trying those routes before you start burning coat hangers."
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Posted 11/15/08 , edited 11/15/08

InZanity1254 wrote:


Jotvingis wrote:


InZanity1254 wrote:


Jotvingis wrote:

HEY! So will anybody tell me more about that welding thing? Well I know what is welding, but what do I wheld? I know that it's something in the cars differntial but i don't know what exactly... So I would realy appreciate if someone would explain it to me more detailed.


i know what you are talking about but i'm not sure how it works.
i think welding your differential makes both tires turn at the same time.
the downside i know to it is that it puts more stress on your tires and stuff when you aren't drifting.


well there was this guy a few pages back that said he din't like parking with welded differential, maby that's the down side of welding...


hm, that would prove to be somewhat troublesome.

if you drive your car for a dd then its best to get an lsd because it will save on parts in long run but if its mainly a track or fun car then welding might be a good way too go.

did a search and found this on another forum.
maybe it will help more.

"Hey jt:

A posi rear end typically uses clutch packs to apply pressure to both axles to prevent one from spinning faster than the other until enough force is applied (such as going around a corner) to force the clutch to slip, allowing the inside tire to rotate more slowly than the outside.

A limited slip differential typically uses a cone-type affair to achieve the same results as a posi. The big difference is that a limited slip will "break loose" sooner than a posi, and it is also much quieter on the street.

To answer your question, technically, it is impossible to make a limited slip into a posi by simply welding anything, since even a posi is not a locked (or "solid axle") differential.

wileys_farm is entirely correct to caution you about welding your differential on the street. In fact, I can't believe people are still willing to try this!

The reason you should not run a welded differential (and also the reason they are banned by all drag racing sanctioning bodies, although I believe a few of the smaller circle track sanctioning bodies may still allow it on dirt tracks, but not on asphalt) is that it puts a tremendous strain on the carrier and the axles. If you are using a GM type of differential that uses C-clips to retain the axles (like a 10 or 12 bolt), it is entirely likely that the axle will break at this weakest point, thereby releasing your tire, wheel, brake drum, and a 2 or 3 foot long piece of axle to go whereever the heck it wants to go. It's first stop is usually your rear fender, where it will chew the heck out of a lot of sheetmetal.

If that's all that happens, consider yourself lucky. If an axle breaks at high speed, the car will swerve out of control and could kill someone else, or your broken parts could hurt or kill someone.

For anyone still wanting to experiment off-road with this type of modification, you would weld the spider gears to the carrier so that they cannot rotate independently of each other. The surfaces to be welded must be completely clean of all differential lubricant.

Considering that a spool can be purchased for under $100, and a good used posi differential can be had from a wrecking yard for that price or less, I would suggest trying those routes before you start burning coat hangers."


Yea, I don't want to try welding that much now... When I'll get a RWD car I think I'll keep it the original way untill I can purchase an LSD or 2way or what the heck... By the way thanx for your help ^^
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Posted 11/15/08

Jotvingis wrote:


InZanity1254 wrote:


Jotvingis wrote:


InZanity1254 wrote:


Jotvingis wrote:

HEY! So will anybody tell me more about that welding thing? Well I know what is welding, but what do I wheld? I know that it's something in the cars differntial but i don't know what exactly... So I would realy appreciate if someone would explain it to me more detailed.


i know what you are talking about but i'm not sure how it works.
i think welding your differential makes both tires turn at the same time.
the downside i know to it is that it puts more stress on your tires and stuff when you aren't drifting.


well there was this guy a few pages back that said he din't like parking with welded differential, maby that's the down side of welding...


hm, that would prove to be somewhat troublesome.

if you drive your car for a dd then its best to get an lsd because it will save on parts in long run but if its mainly a track or fun car then welding might be a good way too go.

did a search and found this on another forum.
maybe it will help more.

"Hey jt:

A posi rear end typically uses clutch packs to apply pressure to both axles to prevent one from spinning faster than the other until enough force is applied (such as going around a corner) to force the clutch to slip, allowing the inside tire to rotate more slowly than the outside.

A limited slip differential typically uses a cone-type affair to achieve the same results as a posi. The big difference is that a limited slip will "break loose" sooner than a posi, and it is also much quieter on the street.

To answer your question, technically, it is impossible to make a limited slip into a posi by simply welding anything, since even a posi is not a locked (or "solid axle") differential.

wileys_farm is entirely correct to caution you about welding your differential on the street. In fact, I can't believe people are still willing to try this!

The reason you should not run a welded differential (and also the reason they are banned by all drag racing sanctioning bodies, although I believe a few of the smaller circle track sanctioning bodies may still allow it on dirt tracks, but not on asphalt) is that it puts a tremendous strain on the carrier and the axles. If you are using a GM type of differential that uses C-clips to retain the axles (like a 10 or 12 bolt), it is entirely likely that the axle will break at this weakest point, thereby releasing your tire, wheel, brake drum, and a 2 or 3 foot long piece of axle to go whereever the heck it wants to go. It's first stop is usually your rear fender, where it will chew the heck out of a lot of sheetmetal.

If that's all that happens, consider yourself lucky. If an axle breaks at high speed, the car will swerve out of control and could kill someone else, or your broken parts could hurt or kill someone.

For anyone still wanting to experiment off-road with this type of modification, you would weld the spider gears to the carrier so that they cannot rotate independently of each other. The surfaces to be welded must be completely clean of all differential lubricant.

Considering that a spool can be purchased for under $100, and a good used posi differential can be had from a wrecking yard for that price or less, I would suggest trying those routes before you start burning coat hangers."


Yea, I don't want to try welding that much now... When I'll get a RWD car I think I'll keep it the original way untill I can purchase an LSD or 2way or what the heck... By the way thanx for your help ^^


yeah, i think i'll go that way too.
besides, no use on being cheap with our cars when we want them to perform their best.
no problem, this helped me too.
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I had an RX-7 which I had a set of drift tires for and i drifted on my friend's drift track which he and his dad built on their ranch...
Now I have a 92' celica which i'm waiting for my new set of drift tires to come in.
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where do you people go to practice?
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ok guys...just to let you guys know....drifting comes easy if you practice....you learn faster at events and tracks because your focused on your car and learning how to drift only...on the street you tend to have the consequences on your mind so you lack and would learn slower, then on the track you would learn a lot faster and correct your mistakes more...cause we live in the states and traffic laws here will anal you in the anal especially in cali....but welded diff isnt too bad...if your serious about drifting...do a welded diff...some people might have a different mindset then how i view it...but like what the yaj guy said...welded is just like a 2way but your locked 24/7...ive been drifting for 4yrs now, 2 years on and off and 2years streight after that...ive had a welded diff for 2 yrs now and its the SHIET...compared to the 1way and 2way i thought was a waste of money cause the 2way kaaz was awesome but then again its a clutch type so its going to ware down depending on how much you drift and abuse drifting ...so 900 bucks went down the drain for 1yr of just drifting and so i just decided that im just going to weld....dont spend 300bucks on a gay vlsd ..... it over heats after periods of time drifting and then goes gay and shiet...welded diff is 100percent predictable, comparing to a clutch type or viscous which take a quarter or half a second to lock up....its pretty gayzie....but thats my opinion...i wouldnt spend another 500-900 bucks on another lsd ever again....yea the daily driving is pretty annoying sometimes...but if you love drifting more then daily driving...then get a welded...but make sure you get strong and GOOD welds....and better yet stick metal thick pins between the teeth on all 4 corners of spider teeth when welding it....but drift is fun...you have to experience it first hand to know how fun yet difficult it is when your a newb in the game...but doesnt hurt to try....yet be safe while your at its...dont be stupid and act a takumi san and think every guy with a white towel over there head is your arch enemy.....your just being stupid and putting lives in danger if you like to pull off stunts in front of public...then youll wish you wouldnt have done it, if something goes wrong...but then again people have there own minds....just practice away from the public if you do so....cant stop the ones who want to learn yet dont have a track or events to do it at....i understand....but drifting takes time and patience....but things to do to get well into drifting is suspension and an lsd and also a clutch and a flywheel and make sure your cooling system is good and keeping the engine heat down...cause drifting youll always end up over heating...smoke is either coming out of your tires or your exhaust or your motor...and sometimes your ass with seat time...
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does anybody here actually drift? or do u guys just seen tokyo drift so many times u believe u can drift a stock evo anywhere?
Posted 12/13/08
I started learning to drift at 15 with my friends crappy corolla. But then I got a cheap 240 with some body damage for really cheap and it was like 10x better for learning to drift, I finally got pretty decent at keep consistancy with drifts but then not to far later the 240 got wrecked. After that I bought a plymouth laser which is a FWD sportscar, so I can not drift it.

I am almost good enough to drift in some amateur competitions what not, but I will not be able to do that until I get a new car that is RWD. This time I am not using some crappy car or a "training car with damage" I am going to get "my" car which will be used for the real deal hopefully sometime once I get enough $. Thats the only thing I hate, its a very expensive sport, I had trouble paying for it just learning, It will be a rough ride paying for costs actually racing. Not to mention you dont make any money doing the sport unless you are a top of the line pro
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Yo! I'm back and I have some more questions! this time it's about tires. So the question is can I use used tires from like a tire dump to practice ? and what kind of place would be good to practice without a race track (near my location there isn't any)
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Jotvingis wrote:

Yo! I'm back and I have some more questions! this time it's about tires. So the question is can I use used tires from like a tire dump to practice ? and what kind of place would be good to practice without a race track (near my location there isn't any)


I went through a bunch of used tires last year, mostly because it's all the budget would allow, also it was good experience learning to drift on differest sizes and compunds of 14's, 15's, and 16's. So ,yeah I'd say go for used! As far as where to go........Try to find someplace kinda remote, you know like an Industrial park or old factory, someplace away from a residential area. It helps to not have a fart cannon muffler, it attracts attention. Don't overstay! Drift for a bit, then get lost!
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Kira915 wrote:

does anybody here actually drift? or do u guys just seen tokyo drift so many times u believe u can drift a stock evo anywhere?


I'm double posting here, because I'm either too lazy too or don't know how to double quote.....Anyways, Yes, I do drift. I used ot have a couple of videos posted here, but they got dumped when the"format" changed. I've only seen Tokyo Drift once. I don't think I could handle a second viewing........

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