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canisl 
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Posted 11/10/11
Found an article on Unixmen of some Mint 12 RC screenshots


http://www.unixmen.com/software/1972-linuxmint-12-lisa-first-look-screenshots-tour
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Posted 11/10/11

canisl wrote:

Found an article on Unixmen of some Mint 12 RC screenshots


http://www.unixmen.com/software/1972-linuxmint-12-lisa-first-look-screenshots-tour


Looks better than that screenshot I posted. Currently downloading the RC iso image and gonna try it on Virtualbox.
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Posted 11/12/11
ubuntu is a windows wannabe linux OS.
If you really want to get into linux, go with backtrack and arch linux.
Ubuntu is not good for gaming though. And don't give me that WINE crap because only 30% of the games work on it.
Java gets stuck, and flash doesn't work as well as it does on windows.
I don't support windows and I hate microsoft, but I gotta admit, the only thing windows is good for is gaming.
If you are a heavy player, don't even think about linux.
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Posted 11/12/11 , edited 11/12/11
If you want to see if your app runs on WINE there is a site

http://appdb.winehq.org/

I have to agree with lalouse if you are a heavy gamer I would recommend dual booting windows
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Posted 11/13/11
The latest version 11.10 is buggy as hell and I hate the unity bar. I f you want to go Ubuntu use version 11.04 or earlier and stick to the classic UI
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Posted 11/13/11

Unknownfate wrote:

The latest version 11.10 is buggy as hell and I hate the unity bar. I f you want to go Ubuntu use version 11.04 or earlier and stick to the classic UI


You can always go for gnome-fallback if you want classic Ubuntu back. Just install gnome-fallback from software center and log off. Select "Classic GNOME" and log back in and you will be presented with classic Ubuntu. Or you can try installing Xfce if you don't like it.
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Posted 11/14/11
I've tried that but you still can't reposition the taskbar, I can't stand the thing at the top so I'm thinking of switching over to Kubuntu which has a more favorable UI
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Posted 11/14/11

Unknownfate wrote:

I've tried that but you still can't reposition the taskbar, I can't stand the thing at the top so I'm thinking of switching over to Kubuntu which has a more favorable UI


Try holding Alt key while right clicking the task bar. You should be able to modify the bar and add applets. By the way, KDE is as bad as Unity and it's much worse than GNOME 3. KDE look like a copy of Windows and doesn't symbolise Linux at all.
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Posted 11/14/11

lalouse wrote:
And don't give me that WINE crap because only 30% of the games work on it.


Correct. Gamers who want to follow the latest Microsoft-sponsored gaming trends should not even consider using Linux. Or those who use PC for gaming only.

Still there are plenty of older games that actually do work on Linux -- more than I could ever need. Sometimes they are pain to install, but work just fine afterwards. I prefer native or DRM-free games myself (like those from gog.com). That often makes things easier.

I believe that if combined with a game console even a heavy gamer could still be a happy Linux user.
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Posted 11/14/11
i've used ubuntu for my college assignments.
Let just say if you need to run anything most of the time u will be typing in command lines

You can just partion ur hdd and install it while having windows :P
Its true that it is super fast to load up. Though i don't see much speed difference between the mac and linux though atm
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Posted 11/14/11
linux would be way faster if it had all the support windows has. the gpu drivers are garbage compared to windows and none of the large companies support it for most games.

me personally, i am currently booted into windows and use ubuntu 11.10 inside vmware.
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Posted 11/14/11

nyou wrote:


lalouse wrote:
And don't give me that WINE crap because only 30% of the games work on it.


Correct. Gamers who want to follow the latest Microsoft-sponsored gaming trends should not even consider using Linux. Or those who use PC for gaming only.

Still there are plenty of older games that actually do work on Linux -- more than I could ever need. Sometimes they are pain to install, but work just fine afterwards. I prefer native or DRM-free games myself (like those from gog.com). That often makes things easier.

I believe that if combined with a game console even a heavy gamer could still be a happy Linux user.



:P why would a heavy gamer have anything other than microsoft?
It works all the games in the world, and he doesn't need to do a million step installation.
So instead of going through all the trouble, just have microsoft.
And those games that you mentioned, are in that 30% catagory, considering there are around billions of games, you get to have a lot of them working on linux yea, BUT they won't be as smooth as microsoft.
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Posted 11/14/11

lalouse wrote:


nyou wrote:


lalouse wrote:
And don't give me that WINE crap because only 30% of the games work on it.


Correct. Gamers who want to follow the latest Microsoft-sponsored gaming trends should not even consider using Linux. Or those who use PC for gaming only.

Still there are plenty of older games that actually do work on Linux -- more than I could ever need. Sometimes they are pain to install, but work just fine afterwards. I prefer native or DRM-free games myself (like those from gog.com). That often makes things easier.

I believe that if combined with a game console even a heavy gamer could still be a happy Linux user.



:P why would a heavy gamer have anything other than microsoft?
It works all the games in the world, and he doesn't need to do a million step installation.
So instead of going through all the trouble, just have microsoft.
And those games that you mentioned, are in that 30% catagory, considering there are around billions of games, you get to have a lot of them working on linux yea, BUT they won't be as smooth as microsoft.


Well, most Valve games work on Wine but of course, performance is always a problem. Probably in a next few years when Windows 8 is released with the crappy Metro UI, more people are leaving Windows and going for Linux or Mac and hopefully, game developer would develop for Linux and Mac.


ctoon0 wrote:

linux would be way faster if it had all the support windows has. the gpu drivers are garbage compared to windows and none of the large companies support it for most games.

me personally, i am currently booted into windows and use ubuntu 11.10 inside vmware.


Can't agree more, Nvidia drivers on Linux sucked so bad that the open-source driver, Nouveau works better than Nvidia themselves. But other than that, it works flawlessly and better than Windows Vista.
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Posted 11/15/11

lalouse wrote:


nyou wrote:

I believe that if combined with a game console even a heavy gamer could still be a happy Linux user.



:P why would a heavy gamer have anything other than microsoft?
It works all the games in the world, and he doesn't need to do a million step installation.
So instead of going through all the trouble, just have microsoft.
And those games that you mentioned, are in that 30% catagory, considering there are around billions of games, you get to have a lot of them working on linux yea, BUT they won't be as smooth as microsoft.


Well, it would have to be a heavy gamer that seriously hates Windows or Microsoft. Or someone that just loves Linux. There are all kinds of people.

My point was that it's entirely possible to be a heavy gamer and not use Windows (for whatever reason). That person would simply be playing different games and more console games.

I have actually made an attempt to convert a gaming addict friend of my to Linux, but it's indeed not going too well. I've installed and fixed countless of games for him so that they work perfectly on Linux, but simply said he is just too used to using Windows and it's hard to change habits. Of course he also owns countless of games that do not work on Linux.

Personally I don't hate Windows 7. It looks like a good operating system to me. But I don't use it because I feel Linux is infinitely better for me. I also don't own any Windows-only games. If someone like me were to start a heavy gaming spree right now he would likely only be playing some selected Linux-compatible titles in addition to PS3 and other console games.
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Posted 11/15/11

nyou wrote:


lalouse wrote:


nyou wrote:

I believe that if combined with a game console even a heavy gamer could still be a happy Linux user.



:P why would a heavy gamer have anything other than microsoft?
It works all the games in the world, and he doesn't need to do a million step installation.
So instead of going through all the trouble, just have microsoft.
And those games that you mentioned, are in that 30% catagory, considering there are around billions of games, you get to have a lot of them working on linux yea, BUT they won't be as smooth as microsoft.


Well, it would have to be a heavy gamer that seriously hates Windows or Microsoft. Or someone that just loves Linux. There are all kinds of people.

My point was that it's entirely possible to be a heavy gamer and not use Windows (for whatever reason). That person would simply be playing different games and more console games.

I have actually made an attempt to convert a gaming addict friend of my to Linux, but it's indeed not going too well. I've installed and fixed countless of games for him so that they work perfectly on Linux, but simply said he is just too used to using Windows and it's hard to change habits. Of course he also owns countless of games that do not work on Linux.

Personally I don't hate Windows 7. It looks like a good operating system to me. But I don't use it because I feel Linux is infinitely better for me. I also don't own any Windows-only games. If someone like me were to start a heavy gaming spree right now he would likely only be playing some selected Linux-compatible titles in addition to PS3 and other console games.



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