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Petition for Winter 2012
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Posted 11/6/11
If we were to petition which Winter 2012 anime we would like to see on CrunchyRoll before they air, wouldn't that be better because it might allow the negotiations to have CR end up airing them on the actual broadcasting date (time zone differences aside) so they don't get delayed. Also, by doing it so early, enough signatures might allow Japan to realize we want to see the uncensored versions of the fan service shows (I would think the monthly fees that thousands of subscribers are paying potentially helps cover some of the extra licensing fees for that) and not get cheated by having the watered down versions.
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At the very least, I would like the companies that do the censoring to not be so obnoxious about it. Such as in Majikoi... its an eroge so I know they need to censor it for tv, but they honestly dont need to have Cookie icons hogging up half the screen. I'd rather have steam strategically bluring the bits... I think the two most irritatingly obnoxious censorings were done in Seikon no Qwaiser and Rosario + Vampire 2.
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Posted 11/6/11 , edited 11/6/11
It wouldn't really do much. Whether Crunchyroll picks up a series is not is mostly dependent on the producers and distributors of the series, along with what titles other US companies are going for.

The only thing I really want is more 1-hour after airing simulcasts. I'm sick of all the recent delaycasts.
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Posted 11/6/11 , edited 11/6/11
Here's a thought. What if we petition Crunchyroll NOT to pick up shows that are obviously just smut delivery vehicles? Maybe that way, they'd be able to focus on getting BETTER shows. Just an idea...
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Posted 11/6/11

wearjc wrote:

Here's a thought. What if we petition Crunchyroll NOT to pick up shows that are obviously just smut delivery vehicles? Maybe that way, they'd be able to focus on getting BETTER shows. Just an idea...

Sorry, but all this would result in is CR getting fewer shows.

If CR is up against a company that can offer a full license including home video, CR isn't going to win. Losing money by overbidding for streaming rights alone isn't a viable long term solution.

If CR is up against a company that has a pre-existing relationship with the licensor, CR isn't going to win unless that party that has first rights to the title decides they don't want it.

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TheAncientOne wrote:

Sorry, but all this would result in is CR getting fewer shows.



Yeah, I suspected as much, based on previous comments. I just thought I'd throw in a suggestion that ran counter to what seems to be the normal thinking for this site. I mean, aren't there enough soft-core porn sites on the net already?

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Ah... but there is a huge difference between soft-core porn and what you see on here. I am not too sure what shows you have been watching on CR, but there arent any that could be considered porn. Kinky or risque probably, but definitely not porn.
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Posted 11/6/11
I didn't think there was porn on here. What shows are you talking about?
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Posted 11/6/11 , edited 11/6/11
OK, let's assume that the fanservice were to go uncensored, as the original poster proposes. Take a look at:

The opening for the third episode of "Magikoi Oh! Samurai Girls"
The fifth episode of "Kanamemo" (inside the public bath house)
The beach episode, among others, of "Asobi ni Ikuyo"
Portions of "Astarotte's Toy" (removing the censorship would result in showing exposed genitalia of underaged girls)

and I could probably note others, but this should be enough to make my point.

If censorship is required for something to be broadcast late at night in Japan, how is it NOT pornography if the censorship is removed?
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Posted 11/6/11
i don't think most shows ever go full frontal just dangerous close.
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Posted 11/6/11
I don't really mind the 'delaycasts'. As far as I can tell, Crunchyroll's video player is probably the best out of all the legal channels as far as sheer quality and convenience goes.
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Posted 11/6/11

wearjc wrote:

OK, let's assume that the fanservice were to go uncensored, as the original poster proposes. Take a look at:

The opening for the third episode of "Magikoi Oh! Samurai Girls"
The fifth episode of "Kanamemo" (inside the public bath house)
The beach episode, among others, of "Asobi ni Ikuyo"
Portions of "Astarotte's Toy" (removing the censorship would result in showing exposed genitalia of underaged girls)

and I could probably note others, but this should be enough to make my point.

If censorship is required for something to be broadcast late at night in Japan, how is it NOT pornography if the censorship is removed?

Even on DVD/BD, no mainstream anime in Japan shows genitalia, regardless of how ecchi it is.

It is been too long since I saw Asobi ni Ikuyo to comment, and I have not seen the other two, but I can't recall any actual censorship in Astarotte's Toy. Strategic positioning of her tail wasn't censorship, as it is part of the animation. It can't be "removed" as wasn't placed over something. Censorship is shafts of light, shadow, fog, etc. that are added to the broadcast version of a show after the animation is completed.

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Posted 11/6/11 , edited 11/7/11
Astarotte wasn't the one who needed the most censoring - Asuha was, and Asuha doesn't have a tail. I could be wrong, it's been a while since I saw it, but I'm pretty sure that they had to cover her up with something. The opening bathing scene (episode 1) would have been pretty revealing without the steam clouds covering everything. Remove those as the original poster suggested, and you could have a problem. (I'll admit, though, that it's impossible for me to tell whether those steam clouds were removable or not.)

"Asobi ni Ikuyo" makes extensive use of small pictures to cover things, as does the bath scene in "Kanamemo". The scene that I mentioned from "Magikoi Oh! Samurai Girls" also makes use of a picture icon to cover something that couldn't be shown. (Whether any of these picture icons are removable or not, I can't say.)

Edit: Further review shows that the "picture icons" in "Asobi ni Ikuyo" were actually signs being held by Assistaroids. Therefore, they are probably not removable. My bad. The one "picture icon" that I could find in "Astarotte's Toy" was actually a paddle being held in place by a bystander. My memory is obviously shot. :P
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Posted 11/7/11 , edited 11/7/11
Can we petition to show some of the simulcasts on other regions? I love crunchyroll's player so much before they became legal. Practically all the animes except the crappy ones are not allowed to be shown in my region. I think it's a problem that should also be addressed.

Although I'm not really complaining since I found other sites that stream animes because of this.
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Posted 11/7/11 , edited 11/7/11

observantzani wrote:

Can we petition to show some of the simulcasts on other regions? I love crunchyroll's player so much before they became legal. Practically all the animes except the crappy ones are not allowed to be shown in my region. I think it's a problem that should also be addressed.

Although I'm not really complaining since I found other sites that stream animes because of this.

Most of Crunchyroll's restrictions are non-negotiable... Unlike other legal streaming services, they actually try to get the rights to all regions they can (or are financially plausible).

The only thing they could do is actually work with Sentai when licensing series, rather than licensing series straight from them. This could allow for both more regions on Sentai's titles, and less delaycasts. The same applies to other licenses from US companies.
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