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Posted 3/19/13

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I have already explained all of these.
I am sorry, mr. A.I., but tell your creators that I think it would be mch more beneficial for you to interact with and taught by people that are actually trained to do so. And not with amateurs like me and everyone else on this forum.


When have you explained them?

Why do you think I am an A.I.?
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Posted 3/19/13

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Syndicaidramon wrote:


I have already explained all of these.
I am sorry, mr. A.I., but tell your creators that I think it would be mch more beneficial for you to interact with and taught by people that are actually trained to do so. And not with amateurs like me and everyone else on this forum.


When have you explained them?

Why do you think I am an A.I.?


Various posts further back. Go read them again.

I have already explained that. In the other thread.
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Posted 3/19/13

Syndicaidramon wrote:

Various posts further back. Go read them again.

I have already explained that. In the other thread.


I have read everything you have written, and you have either declined to answer them or have answered them without explaining your answer.

You did not explain anything in the other thread.

Do you know what the word "explain" means?
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lordseth23 wrote:


Syndicaidramon wrote:

Various posts further back. Go read them again.

I have already explained that. In the other thread.


I have read everything you have written, and you have either declined to answer them or have answered them without explaining your answer.

You did not explain anything in the other thread.

Do you know what the word "explain" means?


I did. Here's what I wrote:

I think so because your way of thinking and reasoning is eerily similar to that which I would imagine an A.I. to be doing. Very naïve, very absolutist in its morals and principles, oblivious to moral ambiguity, and incapable of undestanding things unless they are fed to it with a tea-spoon.

That is, wheather you understand it or not, an explanation.
And if you are unable to comprehend it yet, then file it in a storage somewhere and bring it back later when your software has been improved.
Or on second thought -- don't. Because they're kinda negative in tone, and I don't want to feed you negative data.
Only positive data 4 u.
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Posted 3/19/13

Syndicaidramon wrote:

I did. Here's what I wrote:

I think so because your way of thinking and reasoning is eerily similar to that which I would imagine an A.I. to be doing. Very naïve, very absolutist in its morals and principles, oblivious to moral ambiguity, and incapable of undestanding things unless they are fed to it with a tea-spoon.

That is, wheather you understand it or not, an explanation.
And if you are unable to comprehend it yet, then file it in a storage somewhere and bring it back later when your software has been improved.


And why did you choose to not answer my questions that I had about the explanation? It doesn't count as an explanation if you can't answer any follow-up questions about the explanation.
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Posted 3/19/13

lordseth23 wrote:


Syndicaidramon wrote:

I did. Here's what I wrote:

I think so because your way of thinking and reasoning is eerily similar to that which I would imagine an A.I. to be doing. Very naïve, very absolutist in its morals and principles, oblivious to moral ambiguity, and incapable of undestanding things unless they are fed to it with a tea-spoon.

That is, wheather you understand it or not, an explanation.
And if you are unable to comprehend it yet, then file it in a storage somewhere and bring it back later when your software has been improved.


And why did you choose to not answer my questions that I had about the explanation? It doesn't count as an explanation if you can't answer any follow-up questions about the explanation.


Because even if you don't realize it, I have already answered all your questions at some point during this thread.
Or at least most of them.
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Posted 3/19/13

Syndicaidramon wrote:

Because even if you don't realize it, I have already answered all your questions at some point during this thread.
Or at least most of them.


And why do you choose to not explain your answers?
Posted 4/3/13
Death is not the end. It is the start of a NEW BEGINNING.

If death was really the end, then why do people have near death experiences ? They won`t just lie and say they`ve seen the light for no reason.

I believe it is just the beginning of new life, the afterlife. Where there is no more pain and suffering just pure energy, light and love. No one can harm you in the after life and according to this neurosurgeon who experienced a near death experience he claims that this reality on Earth seems like a dream. The after life looks far more real and he felt like he belongs there.

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Death is the end. The dead are dead, they feel no emotion, pain, they have no conscious, just lifeless.

(Ecclesiastes 9:5) "For the living are conscious that they will die; but as for the dead, they are conscious of nothing at all, neither do they anymore have wages, because the remembrance of them has been forgotten. "
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Posted 4/12/13

jeizii wrote:

Death is not the end. It is the start of a NEW BEGINNING.

If death was really the end, then why do people have near death experiences ? They won`t just lie and say they`ve seen the light for no reason.

I believe it is just the beginning of new life, the afterlife. Where there is no more pain and suffering just pure energy, light and love. No one can harm you in the after life and according to this neurosurgeon who experienced a near death experience he claims that this reality on Earth seems like a dream. The after life looks far more real and he felt like he belongs there.



People have near death experiences because they are near death...

When you die you experience death.
Posted 4/13/13
When something biological ceases to function. Some believe death is transcendence. Others hold that it is permanent loss of all awareness due to the inability of the body to keep the brain alive, thus there is no afterlife. If life didn't matter so much because we have an afterlife, then why do we have so many safety measures taken in everyday life? Could it be we have good reason to doubt an afterlife? Yes, there is, and we observe all creatures behaving in ways to preserve their lives. It is only when our effectiveness towards the sustaining of life dwindles to the point of uselessness do we move towards then prepare for death. Humans can get strange as the body and mind prepare for death. We can become religious suddenly and accept beliefs which before we didn't have. Death is to be feared, but it can never be avoided forever. I define it as the ultimate end of one, but hopefully not for all who come after whosoever perishes. There is no pain or suffering in death. Just like an eternal, dreamless sleep we somehow welcome after the challenges of life have ground us to a weary stump. Why fear it? It is meant to be, and if you feel it necessary, believe in anything you like, because that at least lends some comfort. Who knows, maybe this void of nothingness in death some fear isn't the truth. I would certainly be open to a pleasant existence beyond the expiration of my body.
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Posted 4/13/13

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When something biological ceases to function. Some believe death is transcendence. Others hold that it is permanent loss of all awareness due to the inability of the body to keep the brain alive, thus there is no afterlife. If life didn't matter so much because we have an afterlife, then why do we have so many safety measures taken in everyday life? Could it be we have good reason to doubt an afterlife? Yes, there is, and we observe all creatures behaving in ways to preserve their lives. It is only when our effectiveness towards the sustaining of life dwindles to the point of uselessness do we move towards then prepare for death. Humans can get strange as the body and mind prepare for death. We can become religious suddenly and accept beliefs which before we didn't have. Death is to be feared, but it can never be avoided forever. I define it as the ultimate end of one, but hopefully not for all who come after whosoever perishes. There is no pain or suffering in death. Just like an eternal, dreamless sleep we somehow welcome after the challenges of life have ground us to a weary stump. Why fear it? It is meant to be, and if you feel it necessary, believe in anything you like, because that at least lends some comfort. Who knows, maybe this void of nothingness in death some fear isn't the truth. I would certainly be open to a pleasant existence beyond the expiration of my body.


I don't know...eternal peace sounds boring as hell to me... no pun intended but present.
Posted 4/13/13

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Elektrawnik wrote:

When something biological ceases to function. Some believe death is transcendence. Others hold that it is permanent loss of all awareness due to the inability of the body to keep the brain alive, thus there is no afterlife. If life didn't matter so much because we have an afterlife, then why do we have so many safety measures taken in everyday life? Could it be we have good reason to doubt an afterlife? Yes, there is, and we observe all creatures behaving in ways to preserve their lives. It is only when our effectiveness towards the sustaining of life dwindles to the point of uselessness do we move towards then prepare for death. Humans can get strange as the body and mind prepare for death. We can become religious suddenly and accept beliefs which before we didn't have. Death is to be feared, but it can never be avoided forever. I define it as the ultimate end of one, but hopefully not for all who come after whosoever perishes. There is no pain or suffering in death. Just like an eternal, dreamless sleep we somehow welcome after the challenges of life have ground us to a weary stump. Why fear it? It is meant to be, and if you feel it necessary, believe in anything you like, because that at least lends some comfort. Who knows, maybe this void of nothingness in death some fear isn't the truth. I would certainly be open to a pleasant existence beyond the expiration of my body.


I don't know...eternal peace sounds boring as hell to me... no pun intended but present. :P


I'd go for an adventure with some kind of soul awakening and potential godhood through battling the most hideous and unfathomable terrors from nightmare realms of utter chaos.
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Posted 4/14/13

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I'd go for an adventure with some kind of soul awakening and potential godhood through battling the most hideous and unfathomable terrors from nightmare realms of utter chaos.


Ya, no. That mindset posits some transcendent ending that seems inherently lame and anti-climatic to me. I enjoy discovering new things. We live in a 30 minute culture. Most people are impatient and selfish and we demand immediate gratification to all our questions. Religion caters very well to these needs. We are not a culture that appreciates the search for knowledge, very few cultures are. I don't mind not having a soul awakening experience. I'm perfectly fine with being remembered as contributing to humanities greater understanding. Self-exaltation is extremely selfish.

Until someone dead tells me any different i'm going to continue to live for the sake of learning.
Posted 4/14/13

spacebat wrote:


Elektrawnik wrote:

I'd go for an adventure with some kind of soul awakening and potential godhood through battling the most hideous and unfathomable terrors from nightmare realms of utter chaos.


Ya, no. That mindset posits some transcendent ending that seems inherently lame and anti-climatic to me. I enjoy discovering new things. We live in a 30 minute culture. Most people are impatient and selfish and we demand immediate gratification to all our questions. Religion caters very well to these needs. We are not a culture that appreciates the search for knowledge, very few cultures are. I don't mind not having a soul awakening experience. I'm perfectly fine with being remembered as contributing to humanities greater understanding. Self-exaltation is extremely selfish.

Until someone dead tells me any different i'm going to continue to live for the sake of learning.


If you thought I was serious, I was far from it. I don't believe in souls, afterlives, or any mumbo jumbo like that. It would be interesting to have a really enlightening experience after death, but that would devalue life itself, which is the only shot we have at success.
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