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Posted 11/15/11
Considering how big this could be for the U.S. (and for other countries around the world that may follow suit), I'm surprised that I couldn't find a thread on this already.

Specifically, I want to set up a discussion on H.R. 3261, the "Stop Online Piracy Act", a bill currently going through the U.S. Legislation: http://www.opencongress.org/bill/112-h3261/show
Although I haven't thoroughly read the bill or its constituent bills (S.968, the "Protect IP Act" and S.978, the "Commercial Felony Streaming Act": http://www.opencongress.org/bill/112-s968/show and http://www.opencongress.org/bill/112-s978/show , respectively), the summaries make me a little worried (especially the last line in the quick summary of S.968 above).

For anyone who wants to oppose this, there is a petition available at http://americancensorship.org/, with some additional information (though, unfortunately, due to how soon the bill could pass, the link leads to a substantial amount of emotionally-charged but largely uninformative language, so try to avoid over-interpreting what is shown there). I myself am not entirely certain if I should sign up myself, but I may be motivated to do so after seeing some other and, hopefully, more informed opinions.

So, what do the rest of you think about this? Naturally, this is going to have a more immediate impact on people in the U.S., but similar laws could find their ways to other countries, so I'd like to hear opinions from as many people as I can on this.
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i know the bill and i know what it's basically saying, the government can shut down any site if they fill they infringe on copyrights with out warning or prior consent to the owner of the site. Good bye freedom, good bye free flow of information on the net and first adamant if it passes. However people are not that stupid to let something like this stand...even if it does pass there will be huge back out lash. Oh fty this could be considered illegal if it does pass, just remember that.

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Not to start any political flame wars here....but let's remember who's adminstration this is happening under.
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squirrel3d wrote:

Not to start any political flame wars here....but let's remember who's administration this is happening under.


doesn't matter who it's under, government lobbies for big bossiness instead of the consumer in most cases. The DMCA from Obama and the RIAA from Bush. No political party gives a damn about you "not each individual congressmen or senator mind you but most", so who really cares at this point, just bend over lube up your a** and take it like man from media companies America.
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Posted 11/16/11

Cecilthedarkknight234 wrote:
i know the bill and i know what it's basically saying, the government can shut down any site if they fill they infringe on copyrights with out warning or prior consent to the owner of the site. Good bye freedom, good bye free flow of information on the net and first adamant if it passes. However people are not that stupid to let something like this stand...even if it does pass there will be huge back out lash. Oh fty this could be considered illegal if it does pass, just remember that.


I'd have to agree that this bill would most likely be considered unconstitutional. The last line in the summary of S.968, in particular, suggests that this bill could violate the 6th or 7th amendment of the U.S. Constitution:

In some cases, action could be taken to block sites without first allowing the alleged infringer to defend themselves in court.
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squirrel3d wrote:

Not to start any political flame wars here....but let's remember who's adminstration this is happening under.


you're right, but Obama has no say in this (Thats what i HEARD)
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Posted 11/16/11

Mayumi12 wrote:


squirrel3d wrote:

Not to start any political flame wars here....but let's remember who's adminstration this is happening under.


you're right, but Obama has no say in this (Thats what i HEARD)


Unless Obama cannot veto this bill (or unless Congress manages to overrule his veto if he can), I'd think that he has plenty to say regarding this.
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What's all this flippidy-flappidy niggashit fancy talk you young 'uns are always using about these days? Is it a new gadget?
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Posted 11/16/11

entropiCCycles wrote:


Mayumi12 wrote:


squirrel3d wrote:

Not to start any political flame wars here....but let's remember who's adminstration this is happening under.


you're right, but Obama has no say in this (Thats what i HEARD)


Unless Obama cannot veto this bill (or unless Congress manages to overrule his veto if he can), I'd think that he has plenty to say regarding this.


oh i didn't know that, well if that is the case why doesn't Obama try to stop this?
Posted 11/16/11 , edited 11/16/11

Cecilthedarkknight234 wrote:

i know the bill and i know what it's basically saying, the government can shut down any site if they fill they infringe on copyrights with out warning or prior consent to the owner of the site. Good bye freedom, good bye free flow of information on the net and first adamant if it passes. However people are not that stupid to let something like this stand...even if it does pass there will be huge back out lash. Oh fty this could be considered illegal if it does pass, just remember that.



not shut down block because they have no say about website hosted other the world
and this bill forss companies out of the U.S to other parts the world so i see it as the U.S will lose a loot income once the big wigs note-sis that the bill die
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Posted 11/16/11
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55mKLcWhr9E

Mister Biden's (original) stance on internet freedom.


Keep what he says in this in mind folks for when he inevitably flip-flops.
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FrostyGyaru wrote:
not shut down block because they have no say about website hosted other the world
and this bill forss companies out of the U.S to other parts the world so i see it as the U.S will lose a loot income once the big wigs note-sis that the bill die


I also wouldn't be surprised to see several U.S. websites get blocked as a result (if this bill gets passed), especially considering how some of the more active and unapologetic Internet users might react should this bill become law.
Posted 11/16/11

entropiCCycles wrote:


FrostyGyaru wrote:
not shut down block because they have no say about website hosted other the world
and this bill forss companies out of the U.S to other parts the world so i see it as the U.S will lose a loot income once the big wigs note-sis that the bill die


I also wouldn't be surprised to see several U.S. websites get blocked as a result (if this bill gets passed), especially considering how some of the more active and unapologetic Internet users might react should this bill become law.


yap it chase loots companies out of the U.S because there being blocked and there's no point in wasting banned-with to a place that's blocking them



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entropiCCycles wrote:


FrostyGyaru wrote:
not shut down block because they have no say about website hosted other the world
and this bill forss companies out of the U.S to other parts the world so i see it as the U.S will lose a loot income once the big wigs note-sis that the bill die


I also wouldn't be surprised to see several U.S. websites get blocked as a result (if this bill gets passed), especially considering how some of the more active and unapologetic Internet users might react should this bill become law.


This also affects Canada by proxy.
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Do it. Hopefully it'll reduce the number of fan subbers and pirates.

I want my VC3.

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