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The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim BLOWS!
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Posted 12/5/11
Most people that play skyrim or even want to have internet. Bethesda has made good games before and at least they are patching it to fix their mistakes. All openworld games have bugs, and skyrim's game world and quests are more dynamic than any other openworld game. There are making things that no game has yet and they weren't fully successful but its still a good game despite the bugs. btw did play on the ps3 because it has been having more issues than the other platforms.
Posted 12/5/11
Huh. I heard that you needed Steam to play it, and Steam doesn't work with my satellite internet, so I went the healthy road and pirated it.

Works great! No lag, no glitches (Except for teleporting mammoths), and it plays awesomely. I just can't wait for mods! If they make it so that it doesn't require an active internet connection (Which I rarely have), I'll definitely buy it.

For now...Back to my level 27 Thief/Mage/Warrior/Archer.
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Posted 12/6/11
One question here. If the OP is bitching about no internet then how is he on CR? jw
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Posted 12/6/11
The game was quite buggy on release, that's unquestionable, though exactly HOW buggy depends on your setup (As it usually does with PC games, apart from the main problems, different people experience different bugs).
However, I would pose a question to you OP.
If the game is 'unplayable' and 'broken', how is it that I myself and several of my friends (And many hundreds of thousands of others) have racked up over 200 hours each in the game?
The term 'Broken' means 'Doesn't work'.
The term 'Unplayable' means 'Can't play it'

Should the game have been better polished at release? Probably.
Was it so bad that no one could play it? I'll point you to the most played section of Steam and leave it at that.

You dismiss the arguments about the scale of the game, the sandbox, as irrelevant, but they're really not. How many games get released these days that are buggy? Lots. How many of them are mostly on rails? Most.
So please tell me how in the name of Greek buggery is it more acceptable for games on rails to be buggy, than a game that lets you go anywhere, do anything at any time?
To be clear, I'm not blindly defending Bethesda here, there are some rather obvious bugs their QA should have picked up, but you and a lot of people like you are so worked up into a frothing rage that you can't see the wood for the bloody trees. A bit like people who go house hunting and refuse to buy an awesome house at a good price because they don't like the current decorations.
It is buggy.
The bugs are pesky.
It has not stopped me playing once since I got it, because they're nowhere near as serious as you lot are letting on.
And it will be fixed soon.

If the game is not to your taste, then fair enough. We've all done it, bought a game we thought we were going to love, and ended up disappointed. Shit happens, tastes differ and change. I will thank you, however, to cease with this ridiculous notion that because you don't like the game, everyone should automatically agree with you and the devs should be bent over a barrel until they start screaming safewords.
And stop with the hyper-mega exaggerations. Blowing something a thousand times out of proportion to try and get your point across tends to have the reverse effect.
Good day.
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Posted 12/6/11
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Could not have worded it better. You don't look at a beautiful woman and criticize the way her hips are shaped, you must take things not as a single observation but as a whole.
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Posted 12/6/11 , edited 12/6/11
All modern games have bugs. They're simply too complex to avoid them. I started playing the game on release (Yay Australia, I was playing 18 hours before USA) on 11/11/11 on PC through Steam, and while there were of course bugs, not a single one crippled the game. I have 110 hours played on it, and give it a solid 7/10.

Certainly not the shining 100% reviews it got from many critics, but also not the "I HAD A PROBLEM SO IT'S THE WORST GAME EVER" thing that you did.
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Posted 12/6/11
@quintus

Ever since the internet took a major role on consoles developers such as bethesda seem to think its ok to release an incredibly buggy game. Sure it doesnt effect people like you or me, but what about people with no internet? people with ridiculous bandwidth caps like 2GB a month? There are people who don't have the ability to add the patch.

What the OP is saying is we shouldn't let companies get away with this crap. Imagine if great games like Zelda ocarina of time or final fantasy 7 came out as buggy as skyrim, that would have been grossly unacceptable and it should still be that way, Internet or no internet.
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31 / M / NW England
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Posted 12/6/11
I somewhat agree, but it's a sad fact of this world that the times move on with, or without you, and quite often, in a rather less than ideal way.
Again, I wasn't blindly defending Bethesda, or any other developer, but this is just how it is now. It's the same with certain games coming out with DLC content on day one, or DLC that gives you some blue armour instead of red for the "bargain price of £3.99!"
It's so far away from ideal that it's a speck on the horizon, but... well. *Shrug*

I went for years with a shitty PC that couldn't run ANYTHING new or reasonably modern, and I couldn't afford to buy a console.
What did I do? I read. I started writing and painting, and saved what money I could, when I could. I played those games that I could and grew a pair when I was tempted to start sulking that I couldn't play things like Mass Effect and other awesome releases that I wanted.
I feel for people who have internet issues in today's world of large patches and buggy releases, I really do, but the world owes us absolutely nothing, and we get what we can get, when we can get it. This whole 'It's not ideal for me and so it must END' business is getting boring.

Plus, you cannot tell me that after the past few years of most games being buggy and requiring large patches, that ANYONE thought this was going to be any different.
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26 / M / Norway
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Posted 12/6/11
Skyrim rocks. if you think it blows blow me faggot.
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Posted 12/6/11
From a neutral standpoint as someone who has no interest in playing any of the Elder Scroll games. (I picked up Oblivion, got lost FOREVER, then got ridiculously bored, realized Sandbox style really wasn't for me.)

~ I agree the developers should work a bit more to take out the more obvious glitches, but to release a game completely and totally glitch free is asking the impossible. They don't have enough employee's to sit and devout all their time to a single game with 200+ hours of gameplay at it's disposal. With a sandbox game things go wrong, you just have to deal and chill, then report the problem.

~Yes this is a major problem for people with limited Internet connection and I don't agree that all the patches should be online. What if another thing happens like the Sony Network crashing? The sad fact is, the Internet isn't always reliable, for some more than others. So I believe that they should place some updates on discs for people who still have that 20g Ps3 with lacking wireless. They could easily stock them at gamestop for a reliable up to date patch. Maybe even make more money by selling them for $5 dollars a piece or something.

--Anyway those are just my opinions.
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Posted 12/6/11
Skyrim is almost set up like an MMORPG, like most sandbox games are. Lots of repeatable, copy-paste questing, Big open areas, and random encounters. If you touched any of the Elder Scroll games before, you should know this already and not be bitching. I never really liked Bethesda game, personally. I think their first-person RPG isn't really polished yet, then again, I don't think RPG's should be on mostly for first-person. I can put it in third-person, but it's really awkward. All games have a ton of bugs, but I would agree that none of them have been 'game breaking' so far. You might have to reload a few quests, like I've been unable to turn in a few side quests, and actually one of the dungeons stopped animation completely a few times on me.

Though, considering the type of games that have been out lately, this one at least has a RPG element. I'm not gonna call any CoD games, 'game of the year', and SWTOR/Mass Effect 3/Dragon Age 3 won't be out for awhile. Neither will Guild Wars 3 for that matter. It hasn't been a great year for games....
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Posted 12/6/11
Moved to general gaming because this is about games. Deal with it.

You know what was broken? RAGE was broken on release. Skyrim was playable and entertaining.

quintus_fontane's have already covered most arguments.
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Posted 12/6/11 , edited 12/6/11
Wow... you really don't get, well, anything. Do you?

Bad game? No. Buggy, yeah. But you seriously think that someone should be able to sue just because they don't have internet?! Is that Bethesda's fault? Nope. If you don't have internet... and a lot of people, if not most, do... then it is your fault. You can't blame Bethesda for not having internet. Now I understand not being able to patch it without the internet, but honestly do you think that many people don't have access to the internet to do so? A very small percentage maybe. Anything else I could say Last_dragon has already said. They know what they are talking about.

Now would you kindly stop trying to start flame wars when you obviously don't have a clue what you are talking about.

Thank you and have a wonderful day.
Posted 12/6/11
Skyrim doesnt blow, its just that you cant run it, which means its your problem, and btw, Halo 1 and GTA SA are some of the buggiest games ever made, but they reached a 10/10 rating. So the rating doesnt come from bugs, but the gameplay itself. And if you need internet to play it, get it, if you can't then don't buy skyrim, its as easy as that.
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Posted 12/6/11
Don't Like it Don't Play it. You will only be missing out on a great RPG.
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