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Does the military interest you?
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Yes and no, depends on what I'm fighting for if I were to go join the army -.- I am not in the army and probably won't join unless I absolutely have too, but if I were there I wouldn't care as much:P
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State sponsored conscription to armed forces, not a huge fan of it. However, I could definitely see myself doing mercenary work. As long as I make a decent pay grade per assignment, I don't care what it is.
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It does, actually.
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Dusterbayala wrote:

The army is working your ass off, getting up REALLY early in the morning when you had fire guard and office duty (aka 2.5 hours of sleep) and running for four miles, then cramming food down your throat to run and stand at attention and do push-ups becuase some dumbass in your squad couldn't hold still... all the while someone is screaming at you "Private, if you are not in front of me in two seconds, you are WRONG!" or "Push, private" (meaning push-ups untill he felt ready for you to stop, could be hours)
Pushing yourself to exceed thier expectations, fighting to get the best marksmanship, so you can try out the 50 cal weapon.
Making some of the best friends of your life
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I had planned on going career military, but i broke my heel and and am now disabled.
So if you have anyquestions on the US. Army, i'll tell it to ya straight. Good and bad.
Being a vet does have it's perks tho...


I had a similar experience with US Air Force halfway through training I fell and broke my arm and for 2 and a half months they miss diagnosed 2 broken bones, a dislocated tendon, and a punctured ligament as a sprain and treating as such now it is completely FUBAR w/ an Honorable medical discharge. Though, military is not quite as bad as the quoted post states that is just for basic training and AIT. After that it starts to mello out then you can have a semi-normal life its just you can't let your guard down sometimes.

If you want to really talk to someone about the military the recruiter is just going to tell you what you want to hear. You need to ask to be chaperoned to the VFW or American Legion they can tell you what real military is like and give you job interest if you join.

P.S. You might mean Army JROTC basically they are just a school club that pretends to be military (i.e. Practice drill, learn etiquette, and possibly shoot) it can get you scholarships and is a resume booster. If it is Army ROTC (note the missing J) it means they pay for college you take a course load they agree with as well as leadership class and you become another F***ing Luey (i.e. An Officer).
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Went through basic but got out due to medical. Could have stayed if I pushed it but it wasn't worth it. You'll learn a lot, but you'll have to accept that you're government property for however long you joined. I think that's the hardest thing for a young kid who thinks the world's the limit and just want to rush out to make your mark.
Posted 12/11/12
No, it sickens me to be honest.
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No, it sickens me to be honest.


Whoa, strong words.

I'm not a military man, or even pro-military/conservative at all, but even I think that it seems inherently unfair to be "sickened" by the military.

Fighting isn't ideal, war is ugly, and people suffer. But my idealism gives in to the reality that pragmatically, sometimes a military is very needed.

A lot of the technological, electrical, mechanical, medical, etc. innovations were brought about by the military.

A vast amount of humanitarian and relief efforts are conducted world-wide, year after year, by the military of all different countries across the world. Military constant organization, deployment, and presence generally make them the first on the scene and first line of help in times of crises. Billions of dollars worth of food, water, shelter, medical care, medicine, education, etc. are spend by militaries every year to help people. They're not just fine-tuned, oiled machines bred for war.

If there are no organized military, people would still fight, kill, and oppress one another over resources and territory.

Sometimes, in order to protect people, you can't always expect there to be an adversary who can be reasoned with and negotiate with over peace. People in school or in a fight can attest to this over a small scale. There are sometimes people who will want to fuck you up and beat the shit out of you regardless of what you do. Sometimes, people will want to ruin your life simply because they can. Fighting is an unavoidable inevitability.

Military is neither good or bad, it is what you do with it.
Posted 12/12/12

Winterfells wrote:


Nyuboom wrote:

No, it sickens me to be honest.


Whoa, strong words.

I'm not a military man, or even pro-military/conservative at all, but even I think that it seems inherently unfair to be "sickened" by the military.

Fighting isn't ideal, war is ugly, and people suffer. But my idealism gives in to the reality that pragmatically, sometimes a military is very needed.

A lot of the technological, electrical, mechanical, medical, etc. innovations were brought about by the military.

A vast amount of humanitarian and relief efforts are conducted world-wide, year after year, by the military of all different countries across the world. Military constant organization, deployment, and presence generally make them the first on the scene and first line of help in times of crises. Billions of dollars worth of food, water, shelter, medical care, medicine, education, etc. are spend by militaries every year to help people. They're not just fine-tuned, oiled machines bred for war.

If there are no organized military, people would still fight, kill, and oppress one another over resources and territory.

Sometimes, in order to protect people, you can't always expect there to be an adversary who can be reasoned with and negotiate with over peace. People in school or in a fight can attest to this over a small scale. There are sometimes people who will want to fuck you up and beat the shit out of you regardless of what you do. Sometimes, people will want to ruin your life simply because they can. Fighting is an unavoidable inevitability.

Military is neither good or bad, it is what you do with it.


We can help people without killing people thank you very much.

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Nyuboom wrote:

We can help people without killing people thank you very much.



With that line of reasoning, we could probably do pretty darn well without police or hospitals, since both institutions help or protect people but also directly result in thousands of deaths every year.
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Great points Winterfells. People need to stop being emotionally reactive and realize there's a different between fighting out of duty versus being a murderer. Idealism hasn't yet produced true peace and until then there's always going to be a need for the military. As the saying goes, "People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf". Be thankful that you can only have 1st world problems because of the men and women in uniform.
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I was born and raised in the military (Air Force Brat birth to 21). I took 4 years of AFJROTC and totally intended on joining the military, but towards my last year I became more religious and joining the military then conflicted with my religious beliefs. So, I ended up not joining the military. (BTW I come from a long line (family) of soldiers, Air Force/Army, etc. One of my last names translates to "soldier", so it goes waaay back.) Anyway, if you decide to join, by all means DON'T ENLIST if you can help it. Go to college, take ROTC while there, become an officer...or just go to college and then join the military (go to officer training) and become an officer.....or apply to a service academy and become an officer (if you meet the requirements). To sum it up if you're gonna join, join as an officer. Enlisted jobs are worse, with low pay, and when you quit/retire you won't have enough money or ability to get a decent paying civilian job unless you're lucky. As an officer. you get to be boss, you get paid good money, and when you quit/retire you can get a great paying job and retire in style.
Posted 12/12/12
Emotionally reactive? God you're an idiot. Fine let everyone blow themselves up. I could care less. Choose what you wanna do. but if you ask me if the military interests me, I'm going to say fuck no.
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Posted 12/12/12

Nyuboom wrote:

Emotionally reactive? God you're an idiot. Fine let everyone blow themselves up. I could care less. Choose what you wanna do. but if you ask me if the military interests me, I'm going to say fuck no.


If it helps, I still wake up every morning, put my uniform on, and stand tall, so you have this very right to express your views. As long as I can help one person, it's worth it.
Posted 12/12/12
no see no point depends what am fighting for
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PhyongHwa wrote:

I was born and raised in the military (Air Force Brat birth to 21). I took 4 years of AFJROTC and totally intended on joining the military, but towards my last year I became more religious and joining the military then conflicted with my religious beliefs. So, I ended up not joining the military. (BTW I come from a long line (family) of soldiers, Air Force/Army, etc. One of my last names translates to "soldier", so it goes waaay back.) Anyway, if you decide to join, by all means DON'T ENLIST if you can help it. Go to college, take ROTC while there, become an officer...or just go to college and then join the military (go to officer training) and become an officer.....or apply to a service academy and become an officer (if you meet the requirements). To sum it up if you're gonna join, join as an officer. Enlisted jobs are worse, with low pay, and when you quit/retire you won't have enough money or ability to get a decent paying civilian job unless you're lucky. As an officer. you get to be boss, you get paid good money, and when you quit/retire you can get a great paying job and retire in style.


Sorry for the double post, but that's not true at all. Being an officer doesn't guarentee a well paying job after you get out. If anything, going enlisted not only allows to do cool stuff, but also the number of programs to get college degrees while you are in. (I myself am taking advantage of one for a degree in computer sciences.)

Saying enlisted jobs are worse is a untrue statement by far. As the saying goes, don't call an enlisted man "Sir", because we f--king work for a living.
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