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Does the military interest you?
Posted 12/13/12 , edited 12/13/12
The US Army is all about "shut the fuck up and do what you're told" and convince yourself that you are serving your country. It's all rhetoric and bullshit.
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Posted 12/14/12

camontour wrote:


PhyongHwa wrote:


camontour wrote:


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I was born and raised in the military (Air Force Brat birth to 21). I took 4 years of AFJROTC and totally intended on joining the military, but towards my last year I became more religious and joining the military then conflicted with my religious beliefs. So, I ended up not joining the military. (BTW I come from a long line (family) of soldiers, Air Force/Army, etc. One of my last names translates to "soldier", so it goes waaay back.) Anyway, if you decide to join, by all means DON'T ENLIST if you can help it. Go to college, take ROTC while there, become an officer...or just go to college and then join the military (go to officer training) and become an officer.....or apply to a service academy and become an officer (if you meet the requirements). To sum it up if you're gonna join, join as an officer. Enlisted jobs are worse, with low pay, and when you quit/retire you won't have enough money or ability to get a decent paying civilian job unless you're lucky. As an officer. you get to be boss, you get paid good money, and when you quit/retire you can get a great paying job and retire in style.


Sorry for the double post, but that's not true at all. Being an officer doesn't guarantee a well paying job after you get out. If anything, going enlisted not only allows to do cool stuff, but also the number of programs to get college degrees while you are in. (I myself am taking advantage of one for a degree in computer sciences.)

Saying enlisted jobs are worse is a untrue statement by far. As the saying goes, don't call an enlisted man "Sir", because we f--king work for a living.


I stand corrected. I didn't mean it was a guarantee, but your chances are better.....and if you (have to/want) enlist, you better take advantage of it and go to college. What maybe I should have said/meant is that what ever you do, go to college. The only enlisted that I have seen do well are the ones who continue their education, or have been in it long enough (at a high enough rank) to go get good pay when they retire, and some that have gone into civil service afterward. I have a relative who gets retirement pay from the military, retirement pay from civil service, & social security. He's raking it in (and not having to work anymore) and enjoying life traveling and golfing all day, etc.


I agree. I see alot of guys I know get out, and don't have a plan. They hated the Navy/Army/whatever, but never took advantage of the programs the military offers you. Then they are all upset at the military, etc.

Thankfully, at least the DOD has a program called TAP, "Transition Assistance Program ". I believe it's required when exiting the military, but its a week long course on adjusting to civilian life after the fact, and includes things like how build a resume, applying for college, saving money, and generally preparing a soldier or sailor for the civilian job market. It's not much, but it puts out ALOT of good information that you can use to help yourself.

That being said, again, furthering your education in the military is highly, highly recommended. It's stupid not to take advantage of programs like CLEP/DANTES Testing, TA, and other college/trade programs that use your military experience to your benefit, not only outside, but even with-in your job in the military.

At the end of the day, by and far, the lifestyle of any branch of the military is not for everyone. Your slightly limited freedoms, like being told how to dress, when to sleep, who you can speak out against, prolly don't sit well with alot of folk. Then there is that whole "defending your country" thing, and risk of combat. (Though you are prolly more likely to die to a drunk driver to be honest...). But for those that join, and make the most of it, come out with a strong sense of self and self-worth.

Plus, medals are shiny.


They also need a program to transition brats to civilian life , like not leaving the lights/TV on when not in use($$$), or leave the water running ($$$). When our dad retired we had to learn to adjust to civilian life too......my parents didn't let us out/do much after he retired. They felt that outside of the base wasn't safe for us to wander alone at all hours like we did when we lived on base.
....and yes, medals are shiny.....and everybody's crazy for a sharp dressed (a guy in uniform) man. I don't know about the ladies in uniform though.
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i was in the us army in 1991 i was apart of the gulf war back then desert storm .....my view is rather crusty in the regular army you mostly clean and prep your equipment for readyness you train 1 day a week in your mos skills you basicly work from 6 am to 4pm monday through friday with weekends off but your on call 24/7 .....now if your in hot zone you dont get time off your on the clock 24/7 you either guarding or patroling or doing asigned missions you have to stay frosty in the zone
Posted 12/14/12
As much as changing the clock's pointers.
Posted 12/14/12
The military is definitely interesting, but I don't think that it would be easy to get me to join. I heard that just Boot Camp itself is already such a challenge- physically, emotionally, and mentally. So I have the highest respects for people in the military.
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Posted 12/14/12
I thought about it. However, and I don't care if I sound weak, but in my unstable emotional state and lack of nutrition and proper excercise...I'd probably die just in boot camp alone.
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Posted 12/14/12
No, but every guys and girls that i know wants to join the military, i have freshman already signing up to join. That are be a professional sports player.
Posted 12/14/12
Back in my young years, I wanted to join the service to "a tool to be useful in." As I grew older, I started to grow out of it. As of now, I want to join, but I don't know if I can have the heart to do good while in service.
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You are 20 and still in HS!
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Posted 12/14/12

papi4baby wrote:

You are 20 and still in HS!


Not entirely sure if you're serious or not, but if you're referring to the OP, look at the date the thread was made....
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Posted 12/14/12

Kaiser-Windhelm wrote:


papi4baby wrote:

You are 20 and still in HS!


Not entirely sure if you're serious or not, but if you're referring to the OP, look at the date the thread was made....


Yes.

I did not noticed the date.


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Posted 12/15/12
Ha I would never pass an army physical.
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Posted 12/15/12

Gextiv wrote:

Unless.. BATTLESHIP somehow happens.



I think it's safe to say that most sailors that aren't a high-ranking officer or a GM hate that movie, I mean, aside from the awful writing itself.
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Posted 12/15/12
Nahhh ;O ~
Posted 12/15/12

papi4baby wrote:

You are 20 and still in HS!


You are 32 and still posting here¬!
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