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Bandai Ent as good as dead
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Posted 1/2/12 , edited 1/2/12
I think there may be some hope for CR to release the DVD/Blu-ray disc version of Gosick and My Ordinary Life as the series was streamed here before. If not, Madman Entertainment will most likely release the DVD/Blu-ray discs for them both.

Not sure on Turn a Gundam though as that series was licensed by Bandai Entertainment.
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Posted 1/3/12
well give unless this is like temp-time off from anime maybe reboot it to get more anime to get license & dub for everyone.

besides really trying re-focus for new era of anime yet besides unless somebody is going rescue & help bandai at this time?
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Posted 1/3/12 , edited 1/3/12
I doubt they'll get rescued as the parent company decided this back in October. Anyways, at least there's still a decent amount of companies licensing. Funimation, Media Blasters, Viz Video, Sentai Filmworks, Nozomi Entertainment, NIS America, and Discotek. Granted Discotek is relatively recent in the physical distribution for anime, they have been around for at least a little while, their website lists X amount of visitors since '05. They don't have a large library and I haven't bought from them yet, so I can't give my take on their handling of anime. Everything else though usually has some good treatment for their titles.

I think if I were to be worried about any of the existing companies that are distributing anime in the US, the one I'd be most worried about would be Media Blasters. Funimation's back by a good amount of people, Sentai Filmworks is a restructured ADV Films, Nozomi was formerly known as The Right Stuf International in which they still operate an anime superstore online. They don't have the greatest library, but the titles they've been releasing have been treated amazingly well. So long as Viz has Naruto and Bleach, I doubt they'll be disappearing anytime soon. As for NIS America, it's hard to say, they do a good job with the games they bring over, and their treatment for their titles are reminiscent of the late 90s-early 00s. It's a welcomed change for collectors.
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Posted 1/3/12
It's unlikely Crunchyroll will put out discs for Gosick and Nichijou since their one time out (5 Centimeters Per Second) was released by Bandai...
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Posted 1/3/12
There's an interesting article about the issue on ANN. One way I can summarize it is this: American anime fan market vs. Japanese licensor(s)/executives.
Posted 1/3/12 , edited 1/3/12
Japan likes: Giant robots, white characters, over-sized breasts, little girls, tentacle monsters.

Japan does NOT like: Strong plots, original ideas, normal-looking characters, shows without moe.

About sums it up. I mean, I want more shows like Beserk, Gantz!, Trigun and all those. Sure, sure, there's been recent good shows, but mainly the industry is flooded with low-quality, re-hashed shounen/harems. I used to like Fairy Tail, but now it's just a long, boring monologue with silly re-played "Supa Flashy Attacks!"...Oh, well. We may never see another show like Elfen Lied again.

Time to lie down and cry. (By the way, I loved Nichijou.)
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Posted 1/7/12 , edited 1/7/12
Ahh, because Bandai ain't gonna dub Hayate the Combat Butler (season 1), my guess is that we would have to wait for either Funimation or Sentai Filmworks to re-license it, alongside with later installments, and dub it. If re-licensed and dubbed by Funimation, the cast would be like this:


Hayate Ayasaki: Todd Haberkorn
Nagi Sanzenin: Monica Rial
Maria: Caitlin Glass
Hinagiku Katsura: Luara Bailey
Isumi Saginomiya: Carrie Savage
Sakuya Aizawa: Luci Christian
Wataru Tachibana: Greg Ayres
Ayumu Nishizawa: ?
Saki: ?
Narrator: R.Bruce Elliot
Miki Hanabishi: Michelle Ruff
Izumi Segawa: ?
Risa Asakaze: Brina Palencia
Koutarou Azumamiya: Jason Liebrecht
Yukiji Katsura: Brittney Karbowski
Taiga Ookouchi: Maxey Whitehead
Kaede Nonohara: Johnny Yong Bosch
Tama: Vic Mignogna
Seishirou Klaus: ?
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Domayv wrote:

Ahh, because Bandai ain't gonna dub Hayate the Combat Butler (season 1), my guess is that we would have to wait for either Funimation or Sentai Filmworks to re-license it, alongside with later installments, and dub it. If re-licensed and dubbed by Funimation


Unless Funimation thinks they can make a ton of money off the title they probably aren't going to dub it; I would doubt the amount of revenue they would expect to generate from sales would pay for the dub cost. Hayate would be a great pickup for someone like Sentai who releases subbed only box sets in which they could release all 52 eps in 2 parts.

Even at that Hayate could become of those titles that falls by the side of the road depending on how sales were when it was first being released by Bandai.
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dokudokugwo wrote:

Unless Funimation thinks they can make a ton of money off the title they probably aren't going to dub it; I would doubt the amount of revenue they would expect to generate from sales would pay for the dub cost. Hayate would be a great pickup for someone like Sentai who releases subbed only box sets in which they could release all 52 eps in 2 parts.


Well, many people want it dubbed, and Funimation has released long-running series (except for Case Closed) in uncut English dub, so this would work with Hayate, and why didn't Bandai even bother dubbing it at all in the first place. They dubbed Eureka 7, and that lasted the same amount of episodes as Hayate (52 episodes). I mean, people are going to be stuck with the Animax Asia English dub, which sucks sh!t from a crazy straw. Hell, I even have links to them.


http://www.animeultima.tv/watch/hayate-no-gotoku-english-subbed-dubbed-online/

http://animeanimaxdub.blogspot.com/2011/01/hayate-combat-butler-animax-english.html
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Domayv wrote:

dokudokugwo wrote:

Unless Funimation thinks they can make a ton of money off the title they probably aren't going to dub it; I would doubt the amount of revenue they would expect to generate from sales would pay for the dub cost. Hayate would be a great pickup for someone like Sentai who releases subbed only box sets in which they could release all 52 eps in 2 parts.


Well, many people want it dubbed, and why didn't Bandai even bother dubbing it at all in the first place. They dubbed Eureka 7, and that lasted the same amount of episodes as Hayate (52 episodes). I mean, people are going to be stuck with the Animax Asia English dub, which sucks sh!t from a crazy straw. Hell, I even have links to them.


http://www.animeultima.tv/watch/hayate-no-gotoku-english-subbed-dubbed-online/

http://animeanimaxdub.blogspot.com/2011/01/hayate-combat-butler-animax-english.html


All I'm saying is don't get your hopes up... of the many people you speak of the number who would actually buy the DVD's in the 2+ years it would probably take before you see the show might not be worth it to Funimation. They are busy dubbing shows they know are popular and should sell well... it may also be a problem with licensing, thinking more so along the lines of that animax dub, as to why Bandai didn't dub it over in the first place.

I'm not going to get into a whole argument about dubs here but I will say 1) I don't care, I don't watch them, 2) there are plenty of fans like me who are appreciative of the subbed only series that Sentai have been pumping out, 3) dubs aren't necessary to watch anime and cost a lot of money which brings me back to the point of...

It's all about money... if Funimation or Sentai or whoever thinks they can make some cash off dubbing and re-releasing Hayate, then wait a few years and you'll get rewarded... is it likely? No.

More so on topic... Bandai is probably also dead because they followed the old pricing structure setup long ago by Geneon and, well, themselves. Since the anime is mentioned in this post, Hayate for example is 29.99 a disc on Rightstuf, and it's only subbed. Where as a lot of the time now you can get an entire season for that price, or sometimes less. They were slow to change to the structure that ADV(now Sentai) and Funimation adopted and it probably hurt them in the long run, enough that the parent company no longer wanted the risk of investing in them.

There was another poster who was saying who was stable and who wasn't, it was a few up from this one... I agree for the most part... Funimation is stable because they are smart in a way that makes me dislike them. They pick up only A+ (mostly, not A+ by my standards) titles that should sell well, dub them to reach the widest audience, and release them at a reasonable price and have finally started to embrace the digital age, although their servers are probably from 1992 seeing as how slow they are.

The two companies I would somewhat worry about now would be NIS and Aniplex. NIS is doing well with what they are doing by releasing cool looking box sets and releasing titles that are pretty safe, but also very good. Aniplex just needs to watch their pricing, Madoka is out of control.
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Physical DVD and Bluray releases outside of japan is a dying business streaming is the future for legal anime viewing outside of japan unfortunate for dublovers and people who want to buy a physical product to own but just the way it is . I don't see Legal Digital Anime Downloads ever really taking off streaming just makes much more sense.
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All I'm saying is don't get your hopes up... of the many people you speak of the number who would actually buy the DVD's in the 2+ years it would probably take before you see the show might not be worth it to Funimation. They are busy dubbing shows they know are popular and should sell well... it may also be a problem with licensing, thinking more so along the lines of that animax dub, as to why Bandai didn't dub it over in the first place.

I'm not going to get into a whole argument about dubs here but I will say 1) I don't care, I don't watch them, 2) there are plenty of fans like me who are appreciative of the subbed only series that Sentai have been pumping out, 3) dubs aren't necessary to watch anime and cost a lot of money which brings me back to the point of...

It's all about money... if Funimation or Sentai or whoever thinks they can make some cash off dubbing and re-releasing Hayate, then wait a few years and you'll get rewarded... is it likely? No.

More so on topic... Bandai is probably also dead because they followed the old pricing structure setup long ago by Geneon and, well, themselves. Since the anime is mentioned in this post, Hayate for example is 29.99 a disc on Rightstuf, and it's only subbed. Where as a lot of the time now you can get an entire season for that price, or sometimes less. They were slow to change to the structure that ADV(now Sentai) and Funimation adopted and it probably hurt them in the long run, enough that the parent company no longer wanted the risk of investing in them.


So they did the so-called single-disc volume with a price equal to that of a multi-disc collection of today. Now for the dubbing thing from Funi and Sentai, while it's not likely what you say, it's still possible. Not to mention, Funi had a poll that was targeted at what fans would be willing to purchased if they were dubbed, and Hayate was one of the choices.
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Posted 1/7/12 , edited 1/7/12
This honestly isn't that big of a deal. Companies will be interested in acquiring rights for shows in the Sunrise catalog. Keep in mind the majority of Bandai Americas series are Sunrise shows. Bandai tried applying the same business model they use in Japan to the US, it simply hasn't been profitable. Sunrise is a part of Namco Bandai, in Japan Bandai Visual distributes Sunrise anime. Essentially Bandai is just getting out of distributing their own product in North America. They will instead allow someone else to pay them for the right to distribute their product. Bandai will likely only license the anime rights. They will still be able to release toys, models and video games related to those series in the US. Namco Bandai is reducing their risk in North America significantly while retaining the ability to profit from series they license to others. Funimation is sort of doing something similar now as well. Back in April Navarre Sold Funimation to a group of investors including Funimation founder/CEO Gen Fukunaga. As part of the deal Navarre distributes Funimation titles, but Funimation is now a separate company. The North American anime/manga industry simply isn't that profitable and the last 3-5 years have been especially bad. The industry is simply going through forced evolution and those who don't evolve don't survive.
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Posted 1/7/12
if crunchyroll play there cards right they can also distribute anime all over the world. but yea i c piracy taking over. security over the internet is very loose. though the day that security is tighten enough to allow business for anime and all to happen again, that would mean that were screwed as a whole. no offense to anyone in china, but it would be like how google filters everything but except it would be the gov/international agencies doing it.
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It's sad that things ended up this way. I like digital but there is something to be said for having the real physical work in your hands.Still, I understand why this is happening.
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