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I never understood how people could ever belive in karma. At least not in the interpretation that basicly says "If you do good deeds, good things will happen to you". Those people must be seriously out of touch with the real world.


Karma also works the other way, ie. if you do bad things they come back and bite you on the arse eventually, even if it might not be in this lifetime.

Personally, I find the idea of karma appealing. I like the idea of a cosmic justice system where all of the scum who have floated to the top through backstabbing and stepping on anyone who stands in their way will get some sort of comeuppance,.


Yeah, well that's sadly not what reality is like.
I'd like it if it were that way. If all outcomes to all people were just. But that simply isn't the way it is.

Bad things happen to good people every day, while lying, cheating backstabbers climb their way to the top of the corporate ladder while boning the wives of everyone they've screwed over...


Is it now? lol



While it is true the most "successful" of people are assholes, (whom attract women) I can't help but notice how resentful and low class they truly are. Karma, I know for a fact, is a truth happening all around us. While the worst happens to the best of us, that still is a confluence of karmic paths. The negative experiences people deal with are meant as a learning experience, so you can just so easily see how that is good karma just as much as something positive.


I love how you unprovocedly call me a faggot simply for not beliving in the same thing as you do. Care to explain how you find this act justified?

Furthermore, if all the bad things that happens are results of confluences of karmic paths, I suppose you can explain to me why the father of my best friend, who had never done anyone harm, got brain cancer, something that ends up sending his family into economic turmoil, which after two years of struggle kills him, leaving his wife and four children behind? Oh, and did I mention that shortly before he died, he found out that one of his friends were planning to "step into his place"?

Surely you can tell me how you lovely karma finds this just and expects us to "learn" from it?


It isn't justified, nor is it even on topic. Forget it.

There is no point bringing up melodrama from a friend's family into a formal discussion. But hey, that seems to be an example of karma working in such a way as to "show me" how I deserved to be so saddened by hearing about all of that. Except I feel so little, as I am not a part of said family.

I didn't expect you to feel saddened. I expected to see you make an attempt at trying to back up this ludicrous idea of a force that give people what they deserve and have coming to them, despite the fact that stuff like what happened to my friend's family is frighteningly common.
So I ask again. How does your lovely karma justify things like that?
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Karma is a teaching within itself. I honestly think it's just to make you think.

If you do good things then good things will happen. If you do bad stuff, bad stuff will happen. When you get past this 'karma' stuff and simply do good stuff, for good or worse, then you've truly learned the actual teaching of Karma.
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Posted 1/8/12 , edited 1/8/12

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Karma is a teaching within itself. I honestly think it's just to make you think.

If you do good things then good things will happen. If you do bad stuff, bad stuff will happen. When you get past this 'karma' stuff and simply do good stuff, for good or worse, then you've truly learned the actual teaching of Karma.


So basicly, karma is like another version of the teachings of hell?
If you do good just because you want something in return or are afraid of what will happen if you don't, you're both a douchebag and a coward.
People should be doing good for the sake of being good, not because they are concerned with the outcomes if they don't.
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PepperKillsPepsi wrote:

Karma is a teaching within itself. I honestly think it's just to make you think.

If you do good things then good things will happen. If you do bad stuff, bad stuff will happen. When you get past this 'karma' stuff and simply do good stuff, for good or worse, then you've truly learned the actual teaching of Karma.


So basicly, karma is like another version of the teachings of hell?
If you do good just because you want something in return or are afraid of what will happen if you don't, you're both a douchebag and a coward.
People should be doing good for the sake of being good, not because they are concerned with the outcomes if they don't.


I'm.. not quite sure if you was agreeing with me there, but that's basically what I said.

So yeah. I agree.
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Easiest way I can; karma works in mysterious ways.
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Easiest way I can; karma works in mysterious ways.


Come on. We both know that wasn't serious. Why don't you just face it? The idea of karma, when observing the world, is absurd.

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Easiest way I can; karma works in mysterious ways.


Come on. We both know that wasn't serious. Why don't you just face it? The idea of karma, when observing the world, is absurd.



Just because you aren't able to perceive, let alone comprehend, a force, doesn't mean it isn't there. Absurd as it is to you, denying a perfectly feasible system is far more absurd than claiming there is one. And it isn't about the one, it is about the all. One "unfortunate" occurrence can benefit those who didn't fall victim to it. It is similar to one living being dying to feed several others.
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DeusExMachine wrote:


Syndicaidramon wrote:


DeusExMachine wrote:



Easiest way I can; karma works in mysterious ways.


Come on. We both know that wasn't serious. Why don't you just face it? The idea of karma, when observing the world, is absurd.



Just because you aren't able to perceive, let alone comprehend, a force, doesn't mean it isn't there. Absurd as it is to you, denying a perfectly feasible system is far more absurd than claiming there is one. And it isn't about the one, it is about the all. One "unfortunate" occurrence can benefit those who didn't fall victim to it. It is similar to one living being dying to feed several others.





Say what you want. I for one, does not belive a shattered family and broken lives will benefit anyone. And if it DOES benefit someone, you can be damn sure it's not someone who deserve it.

If you can, explain to me why I should belive in karma. What is there that even indicates that karma exists?
Posted 1/8/12

Syndicaidramon wrote:


DeusExMachine wrote:


Syndicaidramon wrote:


DeusExMachine wrote:



Easiest way I can; karma works in mysterious ways.


Come on. We both know that wasn't serious. Why don't you just face it? The idea of karma, when observing the world, is absurd.



Just because you aren't able to perceive, let alone comprehend, a force, doesn't mean it isn't there. Absurd as it is to you, denying a perfectly feasible system is far more absurd than claiming there is one. And it isn't about the one, it is about the all. One "unfortunate" occurrence can benefit those who didn't fall victim to it. It is similar to one living being dying to feed several others.





Say what you want. I for one, does not belive a shattered family and broken lives will benefit anyone. And if it DOES benefit someone, you can be damn sure it's not someone who deserve it.

If you can, explain to me why I should belive in karma. What is there that even indicates that karma exists?


It's one of those "believe it or else" type of deals. You know what I'm getting at.
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Posted 1/9/12

DeusExMachine wrote:


Syndicaidramon wrote:


DeusExMachine wrote:


Syndicaidramon wrote:


DeusExMachine wrote:



Easiest way I can; karma works in mysterious ways.


Come on. We both know that wasn't serious. Why don't you just face it? The idea of karma, when observing the world, is absurd.



Just because you aren't able to perceive, let alone comprehend, a force, doesn't mean it isn't there. Absurd as it is to you, denying a perfectly feasible system is far more absurd than claiming there is one. And it isn't about the one, it is about the all. One "unfortunate" occurrence can benefit those who didn't fall victim to it. It is similar to one living being dying to feed several others.





Say what you want. I for one, does not belive a shattered family and broken lives will benefit anyone. And if it DOES benefit someone, you can be damn sure it's not someone who deserve it.

If you can, explain to me why I should belive in karma. What is there that even indicates that karma exists?


It's one of those "believe it or else" type of deals. You know what I'm getting at.

I'm afraid I have never encountered a "belive or, or else" case before. At least I don't think so. It sounds like someone's threatening to hurt you or something unless you belive in it.
Please clarify.

Posted 1/9/12

Syndicaidramon wrote:


DeusExMachine wrote:


Syndicaidramon wrote:


DeusExMachine wrote:


Syndicaidramon wrote:


DeusExMachine wrote:



Easiest way I can; karma works in mysterious ways.


Come on. We both know that wasn't serious. Why don't you just face it? The idea of karma, when observing the world, is absurd.



Just because you aren't able to perceive, let alone comprehend, a force, doesn't mean it isn't there. Absurd as it is to you, denying a perfectly feasible system is far more absurd than claiming there is one. And it isn't about the one, it is about the all. One "unfortunate" occurrence can benefit those who didn't fall victim to it. It is similar to one living being dying to feed several others.





Say what you want. I for one, does not belive a shattered family and broken lives will benefit anyone. And if it DOES benefit someone, you can be damn sure it's not someone who deserve it.

If you can, explain to me why I should belive in karma. What is there that even indicates that karma exists?


It's one of those "believe it or else" type of deals. You know what I'm getting at.

I'm afraid I have never encountered a "belive or, or else" case before. At least I don't think so. It sounds like someone's threatening to hurt you or something unless you belive in it.
Please clarify.



I could have sworn you'd be able to pick that one apart by yourself. No matter.

It's like a lot of belief systems; either you conformed, or you were punished. Still happens today, just at a lesser degree.
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I hate the cartoon. HATE IT!!!! Name calling doesn't seem to fit for good karma....
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Posted 1/10/12

DeusExMachine wrote:


Syndicaidramon wrote:


DeusExMachine wrote:


Syndicaidramon wrote:


DeusExMachine wrote:


Syndicaidramon wrote:


DeusExMachine wrote:



Easiest way I can; karma works in mysterious ways.


Come on. We both know that wasn't serious. Why don't you just face it? The idea of karma, when observing the world, is absurd.



Just because you aren't able to perceive, let alone comprehend, a force, doesn't mean it isn't there. Absurd as it is to you, denying a perfectly feasible system is far more absurd than claiming there is one. And it isn't about the one, it is about the all. One "unfortunate" occurrence can benefit those who didn't fall victim to it. It is similar to one living being dying to feed several others.





Say what you want. I for one, does not belive a shattered family and broken lives will benefit anyone. And if it DOES benefit someone, you can be damn sure it's not someone who deserve it.

If you can, explain to me why I should belive in karma. What is there that even indicates that karma exists?


It's one of those "believe it or else" type of deals. You know what I'm getting at.

I'm afraid I have never encountered a "belive or, or else" case before. At least I don't think so. It sounds like someone's threatening to hurt you or something unless you belive in it.
Please clarify.



I could have sworn you'd be able to pick that one apart by yourself. No matter.

It's like a lot of belief systems; either you conformed, or you were punished. Still happens today, just at a lesser degree.


So who's punishing you?
Posted 1/10/12

Syndicaidramon wrote:


DeusExMachine wrote:


Syndicaidramon wrote:


DeusExMachine wrote:


Syndicaidramon wrote:


DeusExMachine wrote:


Syndicaidramon wrote:


DeusExMachine wrote:



Easiest way I can; karma works in mysterious ways.


Come on. We both know that wasn't serious. Why don't you just face it? The idea of karma, when observing the world, is absurd.



Just because you aren't able to perceive, let alone comprehend, a force, doesn't mean it isn't there. Absurd as it is to you, denying a perfectly feasible system is far more absurd than claiming there is one. And it isn't about the one, it is about the all. One "unfortunate" occurrence can benefit those who didn't fall victim to it. It is similar to one living being dying to feed several others.





Say what you want. I for one, does not belive a shattered family and broken lives will benefit anyone. And if it DOES benefit someone, you can be damn sure it's not someone who deserve it.

If you can, explain to me why I should belive in karma. What is there that even indicates that karma exists?


It's one of those "believe it or else" type of deals. You know what I'm getting at.

I'm afraid I have never encountered a "belive or, or else" case before. At least I don't think so. It sounds like someone's threatening to hurt you or something unless you belive in it.
Please clarify.



I could have sworn you'd be able to pick that one apart by yourself. No matter.

It's like a lot of belief systems; either you conformed, or you were punished. Still happens today, just at a lesser degree.


So who's punishing you?


No one as far as I can tell. I think I have behaved myself well enough not to be punished.
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Posted 1/10/12 , edited 1/10/12

DeusExMachine wrote:


Syndicaidramon wrote:


DeusExMachine wrote:


Syndicaidramon wrote:


DeusExMachine wrote:


Syndicaidramon wrote:


DeusExMachine wrote:


Syndicaidramon wrote:


DeusExMachine wrote:



Easiest way I can; karma works in mysterious ways.


Come on. We both know that wasn't serious. Why don't you just face it? The idea of karma, when observing the world, is absurd.



Just because you aren't able to perceive, let alone comprehend, a force, doesn't mean it isn't there. Absurd as it is to you, denying a perfectly feasible system is far more absurd than claiming there is one. And it isn't about the one, it is about the all. One "unfortunate" occurrence can benefit those who didn't fall victim to it. It is similar to one living being dying to feed several others.





Say what you want. I for one, does not belive a shattered family and broken lives will benefit anyone. And if it DOES benefit someone, you can be damn sure it's not someone who deserve it.

If you can, explain to me why I should belive in karma. What is there that even indicates that karma exists?


It's one of those "believe it or else" type of deals. You know what I'm getting at.

I'm afraid I have never encountered a "belive or, or else" case before. At least I don't think so. It sounds like someone's threatening to hurt you or something unless you belive in it.
Please clarify.



I could have sworn you'd be able to pick that one apart by yourself. No matter.

It's like a lot of belief systems; either you conformed, or you were punished. Still happens today, just at a lesser degree.


So who's punishing you?


No one as far as I can tell. I think I have behaved myself well enough not to be punished.


Well who is it that WOULD'VE punished you then?

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