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But, what about 4k? 3840x2160 resolution? 1080p is not enough!
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Whoa!! That's so cool!!
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Actually, BasouKazuma had mentioned CR does plan on switching their CDN in the near future.


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GrabitHot wrote:
But, what about 4k? 3840x2160 resolution? 1080p is not enough!

According to someone who wrote a (fairly critical) review of the Crunchyroll 1080p streaming video picture quality, the highest "effective resolution" of the material \Crunchyroll is streaming in 1080p ranges from 720p to about 1600x900. That's measured by downscaling and upscaling again to different resolutions and seeing when detail starts to be lost.

If the best effective resolution is between 720p and 1080p, then there is no big benefit in going beyond the 1080p step. Actual 180p resolution is only used for anime movies.

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GrabitHot wrote:
But, what about 4k? 3840x2160 resolution? 1080p is not enough!

According to someone who wrote a (fairly critical) review of the Crunchyroll 1080p streaming video picture quality, the highest "effective resolution" of the material \Crunchyroll is streaming in 1080p ranges from 720p to about 1600x900. That's measured by downscaling and upscaling again to different resolutions and seeing when detail starts to be lost.

If the best effective resolution is between 720p and 1080p, then there is no big benefit in going beyond the 1080p step. Actual 180p resolution is only used for anime movies.

I was tempted to reply to GrabitHot, but resisted, as I was confident the post was in jest.

Even if not, the other problem would be who could view it. I would be surprised if even 1% of the persons viewing video at Crunchyroll were on a system with a display whose resolution exceeds 1920 x 1200 (and even those are more rare now, having been displaced by cheaper 1080p panels that can be shared with HDTVs).

Even the 27" iMac, which has the highest resolution display of any system pitched at the consumer market, displays "only" 2560 x 1440. Even a business-oriented monitor that instills severe techno-lust among geeks, like Dell's 30" 3007WFP maxes out at 2560 x 1600. Even its price that would take most people aback pales in comparison to a true 4K display, however:
http://gizmodo.com/5813575/a-4k-resolution-display-that-fits-on-your-desk

Of course, if manufacturers started rolling out $5K - $7K 4K displays for videophiles by the end of the year (which would still be quite the relative bargain), we should all be able to snag a 30" 4K display for our desktop for $300 or less within 5 years, or a 65" one for about $1200 for our living room within the same time frame.

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TheAncientOne wrote: I was tempted to reply to GrabitHot, but resisted, as I was confident the post was in jest.

I assumed it was. Answering it like it was a serious question was just being a wiseacre.


Even if not, the other problem would be who could view it.

Owners of cinemas with digital movie projectors would seem to be about it. Subset that with anime enthusiasts, and it seems like a market in the dozens, at most.


TheAncientOne wrote: ... Of course, if manufacturers started rolling out $5K - $7K 4K displays for videophiles by the end of the year (which would still be quite the relative bargain), we should all be able to snag a 30" 4K display for our desktop for $300 or less within 5 years, or a 65" one for about $1200 for our living room within the same time frame.

Now that you mention it, 4K TV's were on display at CES this year. Robert Herron (sp?) from Tekzilla mentioned that they were showing an Imax movie on it to show it off.
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BLARGHGRH. WHO WANTS A GUEST PASS?
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GrabitHot wrote:
But, what about 4k? 3840x2160 resolution? 1080p is not enough!

According to someone who wrote a (fairly critical) review of the Crunchyroll 1080p streaming video picture quality, the highest "effective resolution" of the material \Crunchyroll is streaming in 1080p ranges from 720p to about 1600x900. That's measured by downscaling and upscaling again to different resolutions and seeing when detail starts to be lost.

If the best effective resolution is between 720p and 1080p, then there is no big benefit in going beyond the 1080p step. Actual 180p resolution is only used for anime movies.





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agila61 wrote:


GrabitHot wrote:
But, what about 4k? 3840x2160 resolution? 1080p is not enough!

According to someone who wrote a (fairly critical) review of the Crunchyroll 1080p streaming video picture quality, the highest "effective resolution" of the material \Crunchyroll is streaming in 1080p ranges from 720p to about 1600x900. That's measured by downscaling and upscaling again to different resolutions and seeing when detail starts to be lost.

If the best effective resolution is between 720p and 1080p, then there is no big benefit in going beyond the 1080p step. Actual 180p resolution is only used for anime movies.

I was tempted to reply to GrabitHot, but resisted, as I was confident the post was in jest.

Even if not, the other problem would be who could view it. I would be surprised if even 1% of the persons viewing video at Crunchyroll were on a system with a display whose resolution exceeds 1920 x 1200 (and even those are more rare now, having been displaced by cheaper 1080p panels that can be shared with HDTVs).

Even the 27" iMac, which has the highest resolution display of any system pitched at the consumer market, displays "only" 2560 x 1440. Even a business-oriented monitor that instills severe techno-lust among geeks, like Dell's 30" 3007WFP maxes out at 2560 x 1600. Even its price that would take most people aback pales in comparison to a true 4K display, however:
http://gizmodo.com/5813575/a-4k-resolution-display-that-fits-on-your-desk

Of course, if manufacturers started rolling out $5K - $7K 4K displays for videophiles by the end of the year (which would still be quite the relative bargain), we should all be able to snag a 30" 4K display for our desktop for $300 or less within 5 years, or a 65" one for about $1200 for our living room within the same time frame.



I wasn't being serious. Just pointing out the fact that CES brought out an even higher resolution of 3840x2160 resolution. Honestly 480p is enough and I don't notice a difference between it and 720p (unless I go full screen). 1080p is overkill.

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the new eshift jvc projectors can do 3840x2160 and upscales 1080p nicely,7grand msrp-but streeting at 5grand .
i am getin one,sony has a pj coming that will do 4k but it will be 20grand .

http://newsroom.jvc.com/2011/09/new-jvc-home-theater-projectors-display-images-with-4k-precision/

Im using a casio 720p laser/led(hybird no bulbs 950$) at 120inch diagonal for casual stuff/tv ,interwebs,720p is just fine for most anime as there is not much detail
.Its all lines solid fills and simple shading.
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This is fantastic! I couldn't be more excited! thanks HD you're the best!
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I don't see much difference in my computer.
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GrabitHot wrote: I wasn't being serious. Just pointing out the fact that CES brought out an even higher resolution of 3840x2160 resolution. Honestly 480p is enough and I don't notice a difference between it and 720p (unless I go full screen). 1080p is overkill.

Well, you never can tell for sure on the Interturbes, but I didn't reckon you were being serious.

I saw coverage of that 4K digital movie projector resolution TV ~ and, yes, 1080p is already overkill for anything smaller than a big screen TV's and projectors, so a 4K TV is just "look at how much money I can spend on a TV!!!!"

But in any event, most of the source material is transported in either 1440x1080 anamorphic, which is the Japanese HDTV broadcast standard, or 1920x1080, which is the Blu-Ray disc storage standard, and since Japan is not changing its network broadcast standards anytime soon, and we are still on the uprise of Blu-Ray discs, 1080p maxes out the resolution for the visible future.


KandaLotus wrote: I don't see much difference in my computer.

Its more an option for people who watch Crunchyroll on big screen TV's. It also depends on what anime you are watching: the higher resolution display can't add any detail that was not put into the original source material by the anime studio!
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The first one actuallly looks clearer to me
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agila61 wrote:

Its more an option for people who watch Crunchyroll on big screen TV's. It also depends on what anime you are watching: the higher resolution display can't add any detail that was not put into the original source material by the anime studio!


An organization I'm in was actually looking for a 4K (or was it just 2K?) monitor with 1:1 pixel mapping, and those things are hard to find for any kind of affordable price. You might not get anymore out of a 4K stream, but if it's using MJPEG, it might eliminate whatever artifacting may still be present (lots of bandwidth, though). But mostly, it'd just be cool to say "I'm watching anime at a 4K resolution".
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