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First and foremost we know very little about the Rinnegan. The fact of the matter is that Naruto is an epic clash between 2 eternal rivalries. The Uchiha and the Senju - Naruto vs. Sasuke. Sasuke being the master of the Sharingan and the last Uchiha implied 10 years ago that Naruto was linked to the Senju clan and implies now that he will sooner or later awaken his Rinnegan. Naruto being the protagonist of the story will at some point take up his rightful place alongside the Sage of the Six Paths.

I hope you guys watched the filler episode 230 titles Revenge of the Shadow Clones - even though it is a filler ep and has no relevance to the main plot it was still a VERY interesting episode. It hinted towards the idea that Naruto's clones were all unique and held separate thoughts, emotions, and actions relevant to and based upon a piece of Naruto's psyche that was specific to each clone.

If you read the manga than you know that Naruto can now create "super clones" with nine-tails cloaks that can fight harsh battles, perform jutsu, and withstand more than normal physical damage than any regular bunshin.

I think it would be pretty cool if at some point Naruto awakens his Rinnegan and is in 100% control of Kurama's chakra. If so he might be able to create a bunch of super clones each with a Rinnegan all of them visually linked and each able to perform some crazy type of Rinneganic jutsu.

THAT WOULD BE BOSS

If you are about to respond to this thread and you haven't watched episode 230 - STOP and watch it - then say whatever you want =D this is my first thread so lets not all go bash this guys theory so he never posts again

here is a link to the episode: http://www.hulu.com/watch/285340/naruto-shippuden-revenge-of-the-shadow-clones
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Nice conservation there, Njzace3.

230 is also an example when Naruto had an clone fighting with 3rd Kaikage' which he think on the battle field , while the 'real one' was some where elst.

I would say yes that Naruto may obtain the eyes, but in recent evidence stated that Rinn is belong to the Uchiha clan from Eye of the Sage.

Good job tho.
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Thanks DarkOne,

What exactly do you mean by recent evidence stated that the Rinne belongs to the Uchiha Clan? The way that I understand it is that according to the manga only 3 people have possessed it.

The Rikudou Sennin obviously, Uchiha Madara was said to have awakened it shortly before his death, and last Nagato which is where the discrepancy lies.

Tobi/Madara/No-one claims that he gave Nagato the eye and thats why he claimed it back however I personally don't believe it because that would imply that Tobi was watching Nagato, Yahiko, and Konan wayyy back when they didn't mean anything or even know any ninjutsu. Jiraiya saw Nagato bring out the Rinnegan barely after teaching them ninjutsu meaning should be all believe Tobi than we should believe that Tobi had a hand in Nagato before Jiraiya even met him (very improbable)

The other theory is that Nagato was able to awaken it some other way - there are so many parallels between Nagato, Naruto, and the Uzumaki clan in general so it wouldnt be completely out of left field if Kishi drew a direct parallel. Anyone who watches the anime and saw the eps with Nagato as a boy with his flaming red hair (much like Uzumaki Kushina also from the land of the Rain). Its pretty clear that Nagato is not an Uchiha and never possessed the Sharingan so unless Tobi was telling the truth and actually did give Nagato the Rinnegan than I guess this is in the realm of possibility. Tobi declared himself Uchiha Madara and once the real Madara came out the coffin he declared himself "No One" so it wouldnt be the first time he has been somewhat dishonest about whats really going on

Theres just so much left to be discovered its so damn exciting =D
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this leads back to a theory I put up months ago, it would be cool but would take Naruto's underdog role away from him, though I am starting to think that Naruto might gain control over all the Biju's with the way things are going and doing so will force the awakening of the rinnegan imo, but it's an awesome idea
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What I mean is.

In the manga. From how Kishimoto introducted Madara. Madara had MS, EMS then Rinn. Madara stated that he awakin his eyes shortly after the battle with the 1st hokage, shortly before he died but Tobi stated that Madara gain Rinn by steal dna from 1st hokage

But for the Sage. We don't know if he had Rinn before he fought the 10th beast or did he obtain it after he sealed it inside of him, which made his eyes mutated into Rinn. Sage could had Byukgan eyes from start then mutated after having 10th sealed of him, then when he gave his power to his elder son. theirs eyes watered down.

Over the years, then Senju form an group, then Madara form the Uchiha then Uzumaki, yet Hyuuga is stated to be the eldest clan who hold the Byakugan.

That like Kakashi mention once that he 'believed' that Sharingan was an mutation from the Byakugan yet we dont have any proof to back it up tho.

But also in the manga, Sage of the 6 divided his powers into 2 sons. The eyes belong to the Elder , the body to the Younger. Yes. I watched the anime. Nagato. We dont even know the truth on Nagato tho. Kishimoto hasn't told us what his parents are tho.

There are people who theories that Nagato parents are Uzumaki - mother- Uchiha- father = half breed like Naruto is. then another theory that Tobi or Madara stolen an Uzamaki baby n brain was these adult/ n Nagato himself.

Unless, Sage was an Uzumaki then Naruto would have an advantage due his mother side, but that wouldn't explain his father blood line. if that is true then I would agree that Nagato awakin the Rinn 100% cause he is an Uzumaki n he awokin his eyes n Tobi has no issue in this.

I mean, couple of months ago. I was thinking how Naruto could be like Sage. All we know is that Sage younger son gain 'the body of the sage' yet in the Uzumaki bloodline.Which lead me to believe in the 'current manga point of view' I was thinking that ' maybe' if Naruto is able to befriends with all tail beast n host them inside of Naruto.

He would become like Sage, which will bring 10th tail uprisining more easy on Tobi side. With the power of all 9 tail beast within himself, he is able to awakin the Rinn, due being an Uzumaki.


That like people believe that Kishimoto may get Sasuke to gain Rinn as well, but from the manga he need blood of Senju, but with no Senju around, you got Naruto an Uzumaki

So ya, right now, there is alot of possibilities of ' what if, or could or so' we can only come up with theories, but we need Kishimoto to inform us.

But from the manga stand point. Rinn is an final evolution from EMS, EMS is blood trait of Uchoha


Im not bashing you, Njzace3

If you said this to anyone outside of crunchy, they would laugh or put u down. trust me. i read this from someone too n alot of people took his thoery like he was stupid. but no one thought outside of the box.
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You're right about the fact that there are millions of possibilities. You're also right about the fact that we have to concentrate on exactly what Kishi writes to prove anything definitively. So correct me if I am wrong I just want to understand the facts - it has been confirmed that:

1. Madara said that he gained the Rinne after awakening the MS and EMS
2. Tobi/Madara said he gave the Rinne to Nagato and that it was rightfully his

Was there anything else discussed that leads you to believe that the Rinne is specific to Uchiha? What manga chapters broke down the facts about the sage, senju, and uchiha? I'd like to revisit them at some point


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I have one possible theory about how Nagato received the Rinnegan. First, just think about what happened to Itachi. He died and Sasuke later took his eyes for EMS but when Itachi was brought back with Impure World Resurrection, he still had his eyes. Madara was also resurrected with his eyes and he possesses the ability to switch between EMS and Rinnegan.

My theory is this: What if Madara had died and it was his wish for Tobi to transplant the eyes over to Nagato and that is how he "gave" Nagato the Rinnegan. Since Madara had died, he claimed the ownership of the eyes and that's why he said they were rightfully his when he killed Konan.

However, there is a flaw in this: why couldn't Nagato use the EMS himself? Perhaps he didn't feel the need to or there was some sort of limitation in receiving the eyes because he's not an Uchiha and he can't use EMS.
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Nice theory Slaschur. I remember Konan saying that people who possess the Rinne live between life and death maybe thats the type of situation that madara is in. That would explain why people move right through him and why he considers himself 'no one'

What you just said about Itachi got me thinking I forgot that Sasuke took Itachi's eyes but still had them when he was resurrected on that note what is to stop Kabutomaru from resurrecting all the Uchihas and re-claiming their eyes? Maybe thats how Tobi had the room full of eyes in the first place interestinggg
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Maybe Nartuo becomes the Jinchuuriki of all tailed beasts (at once), and Uchiha Sauske awakens his Rinnegan and then an epic battle occurs.
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From what I've watched which is every episode so far one thing catches my attention in the manga and thats when Muu I think it is asks the Question what happens when you surpass the Sharingan. My theory is that its not Naruto who achieve's this but Sasuke as I think its the final evolution to the sharingan. After all they both have the same 3 letters at the end and it is also an ocular jutsu which is a bloodline limit that Naruto does not posess this ability and never will. There is also the part when Madara faces Konan and he tells her that he gave the Rinnengan to nagato and that he was only taking back what was his in the 1st place.
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Thanks DarkOne,

What exactly do you mean by recent evidence stated that the Rinne belongs to the Uchiha Clan? The way that I understand it is that according to the manga only 3 people have possessed it.

The Rikudou Sennin obviously, Uchiha Madara was said to have awakened it shortly before his death, and last Nagato which is where the discrepancy lies.

Tobi/Madara/No-one claims that he gave Nagato the eye and thats why he claimed it back however I personally don't believe it because that would imply that Tobi was watching Nagato, Yahiko, and Konan wayyy back when they didn't mean anything or even know any ninjutsu. Jiraiya saw Nagato bring out the Rinnegan barely after teaching them ninjutsu meaning should be all believe Tobi than we should believe that Tobi had a hand in Nagato before Jiraiya even met him (very improbable)

The other theory is that Nagato was able to awaken it some other way - there are so many parallels between Nagato, Naruto, and the Uzumaki clan in general so it wouldnt be completely out of left field if Kishi drew a direct parallel. Anyone who watches the anime and saw the eps with Nagato as a boy with his flaming red hair (much like Uzumaki Kushina also from the land of the Rain). Its pretty clear that Nagato is not an Uchiha and never possessed the Sharingan so unless Tobi was telling the truth and actually did give Nagato the Rinnegan than I guess this is in the realm of possibility. Tobi declared himself Uchiha Madara and once the real Madara came out the coffin he declared himself "No One" so it wouldnt be the first time he has been somewhat dishonest about whats really going on

Theres just so much left to be discovered its so damn exciting =D


I disagree with you on some of what you said. In the manga when Tobi/Madara is fighting Konan he clearly says that the only reason Nagato possesed the Rinnengan was because he gave it to him. My guess is that this was planned so that he could obtain it again when needed. Its obvious that it is the next evolution for the Sharingan The Rikudou Sennin obviously had it but so far the series has never showen nor explained how he got it.

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those exact three letters has nothing to do with the power, -gan is translated to Eye as in eye technique. Byukagan, Sharingan, and Rinnegan all have the last three letters -gan that proves nothing of anything......
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Don't forget Rasengan as well. That's not visual bloodline.
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yeah but -gan doesn't prove a thing about Sasuke Aquiring the power of the Rinnegan, using that as a principle is meaningless.
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