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So I get a cease and desist order from my ISP today to stop watching anime on crunchyroll. Now, I THOUGHT that the service I was shelling my money out too was to watch anime without doing it illegally, but apparently not.

So exactly what is the deal? They simulcast from the companies, but it's illegal to watch it?
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now this is the first time I've ever heard of a cease and desist order to stop watching on crunchyroll, I most likely can't help you but if you can give some more information then I'm pretty sure one of the reps can help, like your internet provider, country you live in, if you use a proxy, stuff like that.
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I live in the US, my ISP is Cox, and it told me that I was illegally watching gintama. (an anime that, coincidentally, I don't watch) I would love a CR admin to explain exactly what is going on, because the last thing I need is the RIAA slapping me with a fine.
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I live in the USA and have been on this site almost 5 years and never had anything like that happen to me so..idk
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BlackXXVI wrote:

I live in the US, my ISP is Cox, and it told me that I was illegally watching gintama. (an anime that, coincidentally, I don't watch) I would love a CR admin to explain exactly what is going on, because the last thing I need is the RIAA slapping me with a fine.

Hopefully one of the mods here will take note of this. CR needs to contact Cox and straighten them out. I sincerely doubt TV Tokyo (since they are an investor in CR) mistakenly contacted Cox and totd them to do this, so it is probably some policing Cox is doing on their own.

Contacting Cox yourself would probably be useless, since odds are the person you got ahold of would be clueless that CR is a legal service, and just assume you didn't know what you were talking about, since obviously only the legal services they might be aware of (i.e., Netflix, Hulu), are the only ones out there.

This is one of the problems with companies acting as copyright police for others.

Frankly, given that you state you don't even watch Gintama on CR, this should illustrate how bugged up their system for this actually is.I for one, would love it if you posted a low-res scan of this letter (with your personal info blacked out).


FYI, the RIAA couldn't slap you with a fine even if CR was an illegal site. They only deal with music, and only from U.S. sources. Likewise, neither would the MPAA, as the Gintama series isn't a movie.



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Seems like a good idea. If I don't attract a mod soon I'm going to have to submit a ticket. Just rather pissed that cox is going all big brother on crap that isn't even illegal...
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Why not call cox and tell them to check up on it themselves, Ive used crunchyroll on cox before and gintama is a main anime for me. The strange thing is that your being monitored in the first place, Ive had a long list of doing the wrong things with the net and never been contacted for it. as im sure goes the same for every other person with the internet. It's the companys job to know what their right and wrongs are, so id let them know they better double check what they think your doing wrong.
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are you sure this isn't a prank or something? cox calling you and policing your traffic like that loses them their common carrier status in the US and makes them vulnerable for every single illegal thing their users do on their network. I doubt any company would be stupid enough to do that so it must be either a prank or a complaint from a copyright holder directly
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Posted 1/16/12

BlackXXVI wrote:

So I get a cease and desist order from my ISP today to stop watching anime on crunchyroll. Now, I THOUGHT that the service I was shelling my money out too was to watch anime without doing it illegally, but apparently not.

So exactly what is the deal? They simulcast from the companies, but it's illegal to watch it?


No they didn't. You're either lying for responses or you are being spammed by someone who knows you visit CR possibly a spyware.
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if it was an email and not a letter your being hoaxed ive gotten emails that traced back to a competing anime site saying that cr was illegal years ago and it might not be a good idea to be supporting them but cr gets my money anyways
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The only emails I'm aware of are ones sent by BayTSP on behalf of TV Tokyo which prompts people to watch on Crunchyroll instead of illegally downloading.

These emails are just informational warnings to tell people that they should use legal sources instead. Crunchyroll is listed as a example in these emails since TV Tokyo is directly invested in Crunchyroll.
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I'm gonna guess you got your cease and desist in an e-mail. Be a nice guy and forward it along to Cox as it's probably a hoax. If you're not watching Gintama, how would Cox pull info that you're watching Gintama?

More probably, someone fished you, and sent out a spam citing one of CRs more popular series(difference between phishing and spear phishing is the former is done with a shotgun)

If it is indeed serious, then wait till they cut off your service and send the documentation to a popular tech news site. You'll probably receive more compensation than any loss as it will be a public black eye for Cox and they'll want to keep you happy.
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