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Here's my entry for the "Strange Japanese School Days" it's a short 1 panel style comic, please tell me what you think! I tried to add a lot of parodies that maybe CR users will get faster than others. XD

http://www.crunchyroll.com/showphotoalbum?id=12497360
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Posted 1/17/12
Loved it! Awesome comic.
I kinda wish it had more pages though.
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Posted 1/18/12
It seems you accidentally uploaded it twice? O-o
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Posted 1/31/12 , edited 1/31/12
Hey Everyone!

Well, still no word about the contest. But why don't we try to keep things going with discussion about the contest entries? Of course, all Positive Comments will be appreciated, while Negative comments are greatly frowned upon.

I was just thinking that we might be able to categorize the entries! There are numerous elements to a good comic, but here is my idea for their organization:

Contest Entries By Genre

4-Koma Gag Style
1. "River of 4 Seasons Chp 1". By hiroy_raind. http://www.crunchyroll.com/showphoto?id=4308648658
6. “Okashii Gakkou”. By Aeriya. http://www.crunchyroll.com/showphoto?id=4308594443
11. “Mr. C’s Calculus Class”. By meygaera. http://www.crunchyroll.com/showphoto?id=4308630621
12. “Bishoujo Parks Academy –Best Of Vol. 1-“. By EpcotServo. http://www.crunchyroll.com/showphoto?id=4308452902

Mysterious/Dark
2. “BirdCage”. By wanderingwandering. http://www.crunchyroll.com/showphoto?id=4308648534
3. “The School’s Secret”. By LordofHearts. http://www.crunchyroll.com/showphoto?id=4308647677
5. “Sayuki Junior High”. By Hazegurl. http://www.crunchyroll.com/showphoto?id=4308617162

Light Hearted Romance/Comedy Story
7. “Hard Task”. By Rhuuhei21. http://www.crunchyroll.com/showphoto?id=4308581103
9. “Sibling Maniac”. By eeveetron. http://www.crunchyroll.com/showphoto?id=4308568494
10. “Twin Tales”. By TatsukiTakatsuki. http://www.crunchyroll.com/showphoto?id=4308563211

Short
4. “My First ComiPo! Comic”. By Yelsha42. http://www.crunchyroll.com/showphoto?id=4308644556
8. “Strange Japanese School Days”. By theringingbell. http://www.crunchyroll.com/showphoto?id=4308575423


There you have it! I expect that story-wise, we could have some competition in each of the categories. What are your thoughts on the most interesting in each category? Do you think these categories are sufficient?
When judging, I think we can expect Humour, and Comedy to play a large role in some genres, while Paneling and Layout may play a large role in other genres. How do you expect our entries to compare within, and between genres?

Though the Genre may be compared, another important point would have to be the addition of the ol' Artistic Touch! There are tons of factors at work here, and I didn't know where to begin in making categories, but what do you think of this short list of important aspects?
1. Paneling: Though, 4-koma focus more heavily on other aspects, so paneling is not a necessity. Especially with restricted page limit.
2. Lighting: Some people went to the trouble of adding proper light and shadow. Quite advanced I'd say!
3. Perspective: I think general proportions, and interesting scene angle would fall into this category.
4. Effects: Manga wouldn't be manga without the proper impact of a fall or the fluffy atmosphere from a blushing bride!
5. Layout: I'm not sure if this is correct, but laying out the characters properly! Choosing zoom-in shots, arranging characters in interesting postures for their current setting and such? (Please correct me if I am absolutely wrong. I just plopped these down hoping others might pick up this discussion and properly explain the situation)
6. ....

So, how would you evaluate our entries based on these, or other aspects?



NOTES:
View the Full list of entries and brief comments about each here: http://www.crunchyroll.com/forumtopic-736160/comipo-contests?pg=6

P.S. Sorry if I hijacked your thread. I assumed this might be a general thread for Contest Talk. (also I don't have the privilege to create new threads)
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^Very nice post!

I'd like to see the contest proceed as professionally, it's been kind of random thus far. Heh. Though I only entered to have fun and maybe get some more items to help me continue my Manga, as I started it long before the contest. Looking back at it, I've gotten much better at using Comipo! You can see nearly 14 weeks of Bishoujo Parks Academy at it's site, here: http://moeparks.blogspot.com/
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I actually tried doing my own mock judging the other day, trying to decide who I think will win, this was my standard for judging:

Story: A score for overall storytelling,including aspects of proper narrative structure and the delivery of each element. In the case of humor with no apparent overall story, the submission was judged based on the effectiveness of the set-up and execution of each joke (since there's a formula for that to, it works).

Panels: I condensed all of your visual categories into a single category. This covers both artistic application, as well as consistency of setting, perspective and scale. Effects were worth bonus points when they were well used, but the main focus was on general quality.

Another part of this section was judging overall visual appeal of the entire thing. One thing ive observed with some ComiPo comics is that the creator fails to keep the panel layout fresh, using the same BG with the same perspective, and just changing the characters in it. When that happened to often, I started applying penalties.

Page structure: How effectively the panels on each page were lain out to tell the story. Most comics scored high here on the basis that nothing was wrong with them, though I did mark some down for either having a confusing layout or suddenly switching to a different page style.

Text and Dialogue:
Any words that appeared in the comic were judged on how well they flowed and how well they conveyed their apparent intention. Spelling, punctuation and failures of the English language were also taken into account.

All of those were given a score out of 25, which was used to get the final scores. With the exception of the story category allowing for plot-less comedy by judging the joke set-up, I paid no mind to the genre of each submission since, given how versatile ComiPo is, there's room to do some great things no matter what type of comic you make, and I didn't want a difference in standards to effect the overall results (not that it really matters anyway :P).
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Posted 2/6/12
^ So.... Who won, IYO?
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Posted 2/6/12 , edited 2/6/12
Very Nice Evaluation Spectre!

I don't know if it's fair to ask people to rank or score other people, but I did enjoy hearing his opinion on how the contest judging might be like.

So here, why don't I try evaluating my own comic using the Spectre-o-meter judgement scale!

Story: I have a pretty long story.... And it just barely fit the 15 pages (and even then, using a cliffhanger ending). My narrative structure was super dense and cramped. But hopefully, all the elements were there: the intro, the mysterious villain, the building of the suspense, the conflict, the resolution and such. Delivery wise, I'm not sure it was always clear what was happening and why, but...maybe that added to the suspense?

Panels: I had very little, if any artistic application. I was definitely hoping for a more "story-driven" comic. I threw in some effects here and there. Just for basic motion or impact, so I don't think it detracted or anything from the comic.
Overall appeal: not so good. I really broke up my story into too many panels I felt. While I was making it, the individual panels seemed to make sense, but when I went back and checked an entire page.... it looked pretty ugly and cluttered. Well, since I divided it into so many panels, I hope that kept my "panel layout fresh"....
Backgrounds were a nightmare. My entire setting is a single room. I was a bit pressed for time, so there isn't any variety. And the mood backgrounds were just thrown in. But they should at least have made the situation a bit more clear, like a depressive atmosphere, or shock. And I had quite a few characters, a whole classroom, so that just make things more cluttered... more time wasted trying to include everyone, less time on perspective and poses.

Page Structure: As I said, the panels aren't that well laid out on each page as a whole. I don't think I could compete with the 4-koma. But I'm not sure what you meant by "switching page style", like going from portrait to landscape?

Text and Dialogue:
Please let there be no spelling errors in mine! That would be a terrible shame!
Oh no, it's more marks off here for me. My little "exposition" at the end was clearly just a wall of text. I had hoped for a nice wrapping up of the mystery to solve things and be clever....but it was just a lot of text....

Phew, so that's how I think mine would look when put through a Spectre-Judging!
What do you guys think?
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Posted 2/6/12 , edited 2/6/12
@TatsukiTakatsuki:
I decided not to post up the scores or the winners list because its not really my place to decide if one person's comic is better than someone elses, even if it is only my opinion. Plus, I dont really want to entertain people who think I marked them to harshly, other's to lightly, or that my opinion is wrong for some reason.

@wanderingwandering
When I say 'suddenly switch to a different style' im not so much taking about page orientation as opposed to the type of page used. You've got three main types of pages (traditional pages, strip pages and art pages) with various subsets of each. If the comic established a pattern of using one particular type, and then suddenly changed gears and went to a different one at a time that it wasn't justified by the narrative there's the chance that the story flow will be broken as the reader takes a moment to assess how the page is meant to be read.
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Posted 2/6/12
It's a good comic! You should try making more !
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Haha, I'm pretty sure I hit a pretty big dent there on the page structure part, since I made a right-to-left comic without any notice, and one page did change from the normal 4koma layout into a circular 4koma (it's a layout that's actually used in manga, and I followed the exact same layout from said manga, but it came out of nowhere after all ;^^).
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