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Crunchyroll Site Could Be Blocked
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To those who think that SOPA and PROTECT IP are dead. Don't kid yourselves. The pro SOPA lobby outspends the opposition on a ratio of ten-to-one. They have far too much invested to see this fall apart. Washington DC revolves around the lobby and Hollywood has one of the most powerful lobby machines around. They had taken possible opposition into consideration:

"The sponsors of these bills and their allies in the content industry have employed a savvy negotiating strategy. They began with a bill that contained every item in their anti-piracy wish list. This has allowed them to play the role of reasonable compromiser each time they drop a noxious provision from a bill. Yet what remains is still a serious threat to Internet freedom."
http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2012/01/even-without-dns-provisions-sopa-and-pipa-remain-fatally-flawed.ars

The blackout has given them a bloody nose but they are not taking it lying down. They are already launching a counter campaign on the old media (TV, radio, and billboard) which they hold supremacy over. The internet is simply not as easy to control and manipulate.
http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2012/01/hollywood-fights-internet-protest-with-tv-ad-billboard.ars

A table of lobby spending
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1111/68448_Page4.html
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I think it's US companies and sites that will be affected.
That makes the most sense, anyways.
So I think CR would definitely be affected.
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taonas wrote:

It nice people are talking about this, but really you should do your research, these bills are already dead. The House SOPA is not even going to vote, and PIPA in the senate already has enough people against for it to fail. In the event it should pass, the Obama Administration has already announce they will veto it.

I would be more worried about the internet provider companies wanting to charge people who use streaming service a higher monthly rate, because they use more bandwidth a month than a normal user.


Keep in mind, this is an election year so the politicians are backing off, for now because anyone foolish enough to support it now after all the backlash would almost certainly lose re-election. A bill like this could be brought back after the elections are over in November (or 2013 would be more likely). We probably haven't heard the last of SOPA or PIPA.
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The Americans power crocs and pigs are trying to show off how they can control the world through this uproar. I, in my opinion, is that they are trying to make a prototype bill in which they can say more or less "We will dominate!"

Oh yeah careful when you type in your name and email during sign ups for strike participants, remember the internet is a great way to get info.
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don't go to google go to the real website.
http://sopastrike.com/
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Here's to hoping Congress has enoughb sense to vote no.
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I'm not going to pretend I know anything about politics. I don't. But I know what's bad for the Internet. And this is very, very bad for the internet, among other things. I signed the petition.

In a way, SOPA and PIPA are like gun control. I'm sure if they get passed, people will find a way to do what they want anyway.They always do.

But then again, I'm also sure they won't be passed. If they do, Congress is out of its mihd. These bills are harmful and that's that.

Again, I know nothing about politics, but I've got enough sense to know that this isn't right.
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GUYS, PLEASE WATCH THIS VIDEO ON SOPA!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJIuYgIvKsc
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Posted 1/18/12 , edited 1/18/12

Garylisk wrote:

Crunchyroll is not immune, everyone. Under SOPA/PIPA, websites would be liable for user content. Here's a couple examples:

1. Someone's avatar is a copyrighted image of which they do not have permission to use.
2. Someone links to something that is in violation.

Either of these things could get Crunchyroll taken down. Basically, just having a forum like this is a risk under SOPA/PIPA.


these acts also removes many foreign objects as a whole or attempt to. meaning they don't want any foreigners coming onto US sites and they don't want us to go onto any foreign site.
so people who plays games on a korean server will be fined. and crunchyroll will be horribly affected since its server is in the US. so in order to go around this crunchyroll needs to open individual servers to other countries. meaning they need to pay for more bandwidth and prob be alot more payment and that means the cheap/expensive price of 60 bucks per month can easily hit 200 or more. so most likely cr will shut down from expenses.

though i can honestly see foreign companies pushing for this.

but yea the chances that it will succeed is dangerously high. we really need more people to sign petition and talk to there senators because after election its almost gurranteed to pass.
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Takashi_kun wrote:

GUYS, PLEASE WATCH THIS VIDEO ON SOPA!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJIuYgIvKsc


I didn't watch all of it, but wow that's sad.
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Garylisk Wrote

Crunchyroll is not immune, everyone. Under SOPA/PIPA, websites would be liable for user content. Here's a couple examples:

1. Someone's avatar is a copyrighted image of which they do not have permission to use.
2. Someone links to something that is in violation.

Either of these things could get Crunchyroll taken down. Basically, just having a forum like this is a risk under SOPA/PIPA.


Not only that, but consider the following scenario:

1) A major US Anime publisher (lets call them WHIZ Media) resents Crunchyrolls competition, or maybe a major US Copyright group (lets call them the Moving Picture Association, or M.P.Ass) simply doesn't like what is being said about its latest pet bill.
2) A WHIZ employee / stockholder / fanboy opens a free account (or hey, pays the $65), posts a paragraph of copyrighted song lyrics to the forum, or uploads an avatar of Winnie-the-pooh, and notifies big brother of copyright infringement.
3) Crunchyroll is immediately seized, without proof, investigation, or a trial.
4) Crunchyroll is faced with an expensive two year appeal, which will likely fail, as though it was the MPAss affiliate who posted the offending content, Crunchyroll is legally held accountable, and actually would be legally guilty under SOPA provisions.
5) WHIZ laughs all the way to the bank

Nothing legally stops these groups from opening an account under a free email address and posting just like anyone else, and while it is illegal to post copyrighted works, it would be Crunchyroll alone left holding the bag. Numbers 3 and 4 are explicit SOPA provisions. PIPA is pretty much the same.

And to those who are unclear, SOPA and PIPA can absolutely target domestic TLDs (top level domains). See the MPAA rant against the OPEN Act, where The Pirate Bay is named as a specific target. Whatever you may think of them personally, TPB is a domestic registered TLD.

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^This is the SOPA / PIPA future of the forum.
Seriously, f*** SOPA.
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i signed the petition and i hope all internet users do as well.
edit: and might I add if both or either of these bills pass I give up on america.
Posted 1/18/12 , edited 1/18/12

toxxin wrote:

i signed the petition and i hope all internet users do as well.


No I won't, what the fuck.

In Pakistan we protest with nuclear missiles.
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Posted 1/18/12
I believe Australia would be next in line for this
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How about we all stop caring about the internet, and get outside more, you sad bastards.
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