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SOPA/PIPA on hold
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Posted 1/20/12 , edited 1/20/12
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0112/71720.html

Though it's not cancelled, being put on hold due to public reaction and quite possibly government sites being brought down,is a +1 for internet.
Posted 1/20/12
Sopa and Pipa probably would have had a better chance had they gone about it differently. Like having mascots. Like SOPAman, and PIPA Pig.
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Posted 1/20/12
For some peculiar reason, i just can't quite bring myself to give a shit.
Posted 1/20/12
For some peculiar reason, I just brought myself to trolololol.
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Posted 1/20/12
I'm indifferent towards this.
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Posted 1/20/12
if this passes itll be like China?
Posted 1/20/12
Let's take a look at the clear difference between the United States and China.

China - Smart and coward.

United States - Dumb and courageous.
Posted 1/20/12

On Hold? Nows our chance!
Quick! Kill it with fire!
Posted 1/20/12
people say they don't care. please niggahs. once your crunchyroll/porn/any other anime websites gets shut down you'll be bitching about and start fighting back.
Posted 1/20/12
Interesting how people are fighting the government for the internet, but not taxes, education or anything else.
Posted 1/20/12

underlock wrote:

For some peculiar reason, I just brought myself to trolololol.


Shutup you girl.

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Your_Typical_Friend wrote:

people say they don't care. please niggahs. once your crunchyroll/porn/any other anime websites gets shut down you'll be bitching about and start fighting back.


Well, in all likelihood, a site like CrunchyRoll, at least in it's current (new) state, would not be taken down by this bill in anyway, had it passed.

The only websites that were really at risk were any website with any sort of user content. The only way CR would have been taken down would be if an IP owner thought that so many forum avatars or profile songs/etc. are being used illegally, that it is dipping into their profits. That, or any IP owner has a bad day, that day and wants to get rid of CR. Or any competitor because there is absolutely no basis needed for a take-down other than "I said so.", and no punishment for being wrong.

That said, everyone who said that they do not care, should. This is important. This is not a news story à la, "Are donuts bad for you?", or "Check out this new beauty tip!", or even "Taxes have been raised today..." This is something that people fight for. This is something that people literally die for. It is something that you should be willing to die for, should you not be so self-loathing that you wish yourself silenced. This is about freedom of expression, and about representatives actually representing us. Should these bills, or similar, pass, it is a slippery slope to limiting all expression. If we take down a website on what is essentially a whim, why not a video? Why not a book? Why not a bloody speech?

SOPA and PIPA were rushed through congress because the movie industry paid millions of dollars for it, straight to the congressmen. That is not a guess or an exaggeration. It is unfortunately legal, and it is documented. These lobbyists don't understand the broad brush strokes that the bill uses, and assumes that because it says "Anti-Piracy" in the name, that it is an inherent good with no unintended consequences. The CEOs and Chairmen probably do understand the ramifcations and plan to profit from them.

That said, piracy is a huge problem right now, especially for anime--including several groups that actually rip video from here. There are ways that companies can combat it, like Crunchy has done, and like Steam has done, and there are legislative ways to do it. In all likelihood, it will take both to work, but it is important to realize that solving this issue is like engraving a glass plaque--you can't do it with a jackhammer, you do it with a fine chisel.

EDIT (so as to not double-post):

mystic17 wrote:

Interesting how people are fighting the government for the internet, but not taxes, education or anything else.


Oh believe you me, a lot of people are fighting for reform in just about every area out there--taxes and education actually being very high on the list.
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Posted 1/20/12
okay.
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Posted 1/20/12


A wild bill proposed by politicians appears!!

The Internet used BlackOut

it's super effective

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haikinka wrote:

Sopa and Pipa probably would have had a better chance had they gone about it differently. Like having mascots. Like SOPAman, and PIPA Pig.


Genius... lol.

I didn't read the news article link, just happy it's on hold... I think maybe public opinion and I remember reading somewhere that the President had come out against the bills also meaning that there is no way to get them signed into law probably had something to do with it. Although I don't think our government lives in "fear of the people" they server as much as they should. The laws they pass, the money they hand out, all of it should be in-line, within reason, of what the people they were elected to represent want. I say within reason because with as many people as the US has it's going to be rare to get a unanimous decision on anything.

Unfortunately the way the system works is that whoever is able to scratch more backs, line pockets or make wallets fatter typically get heard and their interest supposedly becomes that of the people. Hollywood and recording artists unfortunately will never look inward for the reason as to why their sales are declining but rather take the easiest way out by saying it's someone else's fault and go cry to their buddies in congress to do something about it.

I haven't stepped foot inside a movie theater in years... even when there is something worth seeing I wait until it's on pay-per-view and my whole family can watch it at one time in the comfort of our own home for like $6. In the rare case it's really amazing it will eventually end up on my shelf as a Blu-ray disc. For music I love the fact that you can buy single tracks now as there are many groups who write 1 maybe 2 great songs and the rest of the stuff is garbage filler so they can charge $12 for a full album.

As far as movies go I think they've gotten worse over the years, sequel after sequel, gimmick crap like 3D (that I can't actually see)... I however never once resorted to piracy for a Hollywood movie... I don't want to pay for something I'll probably be unhappy with so much so that I don't even want it for free. With music my buying habits have changed, not every CD in my collection is filled with tracks I'd listen to over and over again but years ago I had no choice, now that I do I'm only going to pay for what I like.

Anime I pay for lol... probably too much... 3 premium monthly memberships and as many Blu-rays as I can afford... although I don't buy EVERYTHING, they go through the same screening process and if something sucks I'm not buying the DVD. Which is why I wish 100% of the new season stuff was always licensed so I could at least support it whether I liked it or not.

These things though are basic concepts about the modern world that Hollywood and Music artists don't understand... if I really like something, I'll pay for it, like with anime. If I don't like something I'm not going to pay for it, I'm not going to download it either... but I'll tell you what... if I was a pirate of hollywood movies and the sort, if you were to shut off every last outlet for me to obtain movies illegally you still wouldn't see any of my money.

tl;dr about the uselessness of SOPA/PIPA
I got anime to buy and bills to pay, not necessarily in that order lol... but still with anime I go with streaming memberships which let me watch a lot for a little, and if I think something was great the Blu-ray will be on order... if a movie in Hollywood looks interesting I wait for Pay-per-view and maybe buy the Blu-ray if it was awesome... music is a song by song basis... the world has changed, my personal buying habits have changed with that world... the MPAA and RIAA are the only ones still stuck in the previous decade. The formula they use to calculate their "damages" is true "1 Illegal Download = 1 Guaranteed Lost Sale" as that person who DL'd it might not buy it now that they have it for free... but did it ever occur to them that person may not have ever wanted to pay in the first place and would have just gone without and used the money to buy a pizza instead?

There we go... "Save Pizza, Fight SOPA/PIPA"... it's about as logical as any of the arguments I've heard out of the MPAA, RIAA or congress recently.
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