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Kid stabs bully to death with knife and gets away with it.
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Posted 1/22/12

Dylan Nuno (Bully)

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NAPLES, FL — A 15-year-old who fatally stabbed his school mate will no longer face criminal prosecution.

A judge’s ruling, made public Tuesday, granted a motion to dismiss the second-degree murder charge against Jorge Saavedra in the death of 16-year-old Dylan Nuno on the grounds that he acted in self-defense under Florida’s “Stand Your Ground” law. The State Attorney’s Office has indicated that it will not appeal the ruling.

Nuno’s family and friends criticized Collier County Circuit Judge Lauren Brodie’s decision, calling it “unbelievable” and “heartbreaking.”

“We know this wasn’t the right decision,” said Dylan’s aunt, Adriana Nuno.“(The judge) is showing those kids it’s OK to get away with murder.”

Saavedra, who was 14 at the time of the stabbing, was charged as a juvenile. If found guilty, the former Palmetto Ridge High student would have been released by the age of 21.

Brodie’s ruling concluded that Saavadra, who said he was bullied and tried avoid a fight with Nuno, did not act unlawfully. She added that Saavadra had more than enough reason to believe he was in danger of death or great bodily harm.

Brodie based her decision this week on the findings from a two-day December hearing, during which students who witnessed the events Jan. 24, 2011, testified that several teens announced the fight on the bus, and Saavedra got off several stops early in Golden Gate Estates. Saavedra showed a pocket knife to two teens on the bus that afternoon.

In a nine-page document released Tuesday by the State Attorney’s Office, Brodie stated that by getting off the bus several stops before the location where the fight was to happen, Saavedra “demonstrated that, with or without a knife, (he) had no desire to fight with Dylan Nuno.”

Accompanied by several students, Dylan Nuno, a junior, followed Saavedra, a freshman, off the bus. He then punched him in the back of the head, according to court documents and testimony.

Saavedra attempted to get away once, witnesses said. He then stabbed Dylan Nuno 12 times in the chest and abdomen. Two of the blows caused fatal wounds, including one that nicked his heart.

In her decision, signed Dec. 30, 2011, the judge said Saavedra had “no duty to retreat” and was “legally entitled to meet force with force, even deadly force.”

“The defendant was in a place where he had a right to be and was not acting unlawfully. He had more than enough reason to believe he was in danger of death or great bodily harm ... (He) was under attack from the first punch to the back of his head until he stabbed Dylan Nuno.”

Prosecutors will not be appealing the case, a move that upset Dylan Nuno’s family and friends.

“We’ve reviewed the decision,” said Samantha Syoen, spokeswoman for the State Attorney’s Office. “There does not appear to be any issues to appeal.”

Saavedra’s lawyer, Donald Day, called the case “a tragedy all the way around.” Saavedra is currently living with his family in Miami.

“My reaction is there is no winner at all in this case,” Day said. “My client’s family feels terribly for the Nuno family.”

The judge’s decision came as a surprise to Adriana Aradas, 19, a close friend of Dylan Nuno who sat with his family for the December hearing, wearing a T-shirt emblazoned with messages for the teen.

“I wasn’t’ expecting that at all,” Aradas said. “At the last hearing, there was so much against Jorge.”

During that hearing, students recounted for the judge previous altercations between the two teens, including one instance on the bus when something was lobbed from the back, where Dylan Nuno sat, to the front, where Saavedra was.

The judge also highlighted that Saavedra would skip school or find other ways home to avoid the bus.

Though the judge’s order does not mention the term “bullying,” which was heavily used by the defense, it does describe “taunting comments” from Dylan Nuno and two other male teens shortly before the fight.

Dylan Nuno’s family and friends have defended the teen, saying repeatedly he was not a bully and in fact transferred from Lely High School to Palmetto Ridge to escape taunting himself.

Their hopes for a bench trial before Brodie are now gone, weeks before the anniversary of his death and what would have been Dylan Nuno’s 18th birthday.

“Brodie’s decision is not setting a good example for children or adults,” said Kim Maxwell, Dylan Nuno’s mother. “I truly do not want this type of tragedy to happen to another innocent family.”

Yet after months of seeing Saavedra in the courtroom, there is some closure in the fact that they will no longer have to see the teen’s killer on what at times in 2011 was on a monthly basis.

“Whatever happens, whether (Saavedra) would have gotten time, it’s not going to bring Dylan back,” said Adriana Nuno. “We’ll have to move on, unfortunately without our Dylan.”

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I understand that he did it to protect himself,
but to stab him 12 times?


I hate bullies too but this is a little too much.
No one deserved to die.

I'm sick btw.
Posted 1/22/12
I still don't know what to say about this. =T I have mixed feelings.
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As a repeated victim of bullying and adult physical assault I wish I had had the courage this teen showed in standing up for himself. That may sound cold and selfish but I have a biased view with being horribly bullied myself. It has twisted my life and personality and ruined my future. I don't go out anywhere anymore. And if I could go back in time I would no doubt do much as this teen has done to defend himself.

I was hospitalized once by a group of 9 teens I didn't even know. They took it upon themselves to beat me just for the fun of it. Even now I wish I could return the favour upon every one of them slowly.
I'm not proud of that but its how I honestly feel. Judge me how you will but unless you've been a victim yourself how can you really know how you would feel?
Posted 1/22/12
about time some bully got bk waht he gave becuse bullying can make the vitime kill them selth
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Posted 1/22/12
Not right.
Posted 1/22/12
12 stabs does sound a bit excessive.
Posted 1/22/12
The boy looks like a sicko, and I'm sure the other one deserved it.
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NeOnCoOl wrote:

about time some bully got bk waht he gave becuse bullying can make the vitime kill them selth


lol nice pic to say that with.

I agree somewhat with the ruling. People get to a certain point where either you kill yourself, someone stops the bully, or the victim stops the bully. And I mean hey, if that means with deadly force that just mean you shouldn't be the bully lol.
Posted 1/22/12

Hellhunter22 wrote:


NeOnCoOl wrote:

about time some bully got bk waht he gave becuse bullying can make the vitime kill them selth


lol nice pic to say that with.

I agree somewhat with the ruling. People get to a certain point where either you kill yourself, someone stops the bully, or the victim stops the bully. And I mean hey, if that means with deadly force that just mean you shouldn't be the bully lol.


hahah i just noticed that xd ^^

all so may tech killings not wrong but tech something to the bully's don't mess whit people or you can end up dead i no killings bad but to drive some one that far to kill you you got bin pushing the mark a bit to far
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Posted 1/22/12 , edited 1/22/12
That's what the bully gets. I condone this type murder.
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Good for the kid that defended himself. That bully had it coming. Had I been bullied when I was younger, you bet I'd have defended myself somehow too, and if I needed a weapon to do it, so be it. Sucks that the bully died, but then again nothing of value was lost. He looked like a douche.

Also, hope you get well soon.
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Posted 1/22/12
wow. don't know what to say. but that Jorge guy looks kinda creepy.
Posted 1/22/12
I’m truly at an odds here.

Though I don’t condone bullying, there’s a difference between self-defense and unreasonable force. He could've gotten away with just one or maybe even two stabs, but 12? Surely the threat had been neutralized by then.
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Posted 1/22/12
The bully deserved it but it shouldn't had to be stabs to fight the bully off. The Victim also looks kinda creepy ...
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Posted 1/22/12
I sort of want to... nahh... or maybe?
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