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Unless you're personally involved you really shouldn't care, like the d bags say "do you bro and I'll do me"
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No, because God said so.
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God also apparently said it was okay to own people 'not of your nation' as slaves. And that eating shellfish was an abomination. I kinda like the idea of 'owning' Americans. |
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papagolfwhiskey wrote: God also apparently said it was okay to own people 'not of your nation' as slaves. And that eating shellfish was an abomination. I kinda like the idea of 'owning' Americans. god said not to have sex before marriage too...so unless u're gonna follow that rule don't listen to everything god says |
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Let us not forget that much of the "Bible" of which we speak was originally in Aramaic, which was then translated into Greek, which was then translated into Latin (at which point certain sections were arbitrarily thrown out), which then was subject to a few centuries of degradation/evolution of Latin, which then was translated into German, which then was translated into English by people who may not have exactly been the most objective scribes in the world. Then, in the centuries since that "English" translation, English itself has evolved. As anyone who has cycled text through online translators should know, you lose a lot of meaning, that way. And there is the matter of not taking certain portions of text too literally...
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I'm a ship floating aimlessly through fickle seas...
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Why would anyone feel compelled to listen to the words of god are beyond me. Statistically, the amount of people god has killed in the bible is in the tens to hundreds of millions if not billions. Sometimes out of anger and sometimes out of pride. His greatest enemy, satan, who represents all evil in the world apparently, has caused in the bible the deaths of about ten or so people.
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Kids these days...
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Kokashiba wrote: Why would anyone feel compelled to listen to the words of god are beyond me. Statistically, the amount of people god has killed in the bible is in the tens to hundreds of millions if not billions. Sometimes out of anger and sometimes out of pride. His greatest enemy, satan, who represents all evil in the world apparently, has caused in the bible the deaths of about ten or so people. Funny how that works. humans are just made that way...they only like what looks pretty and not ugly...its in our nature, and god will do whatever it takes to make sure he stays pretty (that just sounds weird but i dunno how else to put it) |
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narutoan wrote: Kokashiba wrote: I think its sad that there are kids who are "taught" which people are "natural" and which ones are "unnatural" Religion is full of holes, specifically christianity and catholicism. Babies that die before they are baptized go to purgatory instead of heaven. Mentally handicapped people incapable of repentance are condemned to hell. People are willing to ignore several passages in the bible throughout modern history. In the bible, the books of Leviticus and Exodus state that people who shave or trim the hair around their temples must be put to death. People who work on sundays must be put to death. Eating shellfish is an abomination, people must not put 2 different kinds of crops in one field or wear dresses that are made of more than one material otherwise they are to be put to death. People ignore all this crap from the bible, why can't they ignore the passages about homosexuality too? It's silly. Dont get me started on marriage rights for gay people either. The Bible is not flawed, what others added on to it is flawed. Babies go to Heaven, everyone who dies before the age of consent. that's funny. "what others added on to it" is, well, everything. several -centuries- after Jesus' time, a bunch of religious very-higher-ups took what was the bible at the time, and went over it and chopped it up and re-edited it to meet what they considered acceptable. and then thru the centuries, they've done it again like 5 or 6 more times. you might note that the common bible is usually the "King James version" of 1611, or the "Oxford Authorized version" of 1769. i love how everyone just casually ignores this when they declare the bible as "law handed down direct from god" anyways, either way, one of the core principles is "those who do not accept god into their lives are doomed to hell." and there was no "age of consent" back then... so that would be something "added on" the bible is basically "code of public morality (300AD edition, revised 1769)". and of course there haven't been ANY changes to public opinion and morality in the last 1700 years, have there? i know that -i- regularly attend the monday morning executions of the people caught working the day before. |
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No matter what sexuality or gender you have, you are human. And every human deserves the same rights. I don't understand why transsexuals and homosexuals are still being hated and despised. People who claim that God is against it, don't know anything about God. Seriously, let those people be. Or are we going to hate on homosexual animals too? Yes, it is proven that homosexual animals exist, don't be so surprised.
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Busy, late replies. Something's wrong with my inbox, messages have disappeared.
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It's their life they can do whatever the hell they want with it..
Who fucking cares people... Ellen DeGeneres is fucking hilarious.. Elton John got to perform with Eminem... suck a dick right there haha |
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First off, I love all you guys (even the ones that disagree with me). And so does God.
I don't hate homosexuals and neither does God. That doesn't mean it is ok. As far as the Leviticus arguments go, that stems from a misunderstanding of how to read the Bible. I assume you are familiar with the fact that there is an Old Testament and a New Testament. Testament is another word for Covenant. A covenant is an agreement or promise, or even a contract. The Old Testament is a collection of agreements or promises that God made to His people, and that in return, His people made to Him. It was fulfilled with the coming of Jesus. As a contract, it was completed. Now we have a new contract or promise in the New Testament. It does not make the Old Testament wrong or bad, but the Levitical and Deuteronomical strictures are no longer in place. This does not, for example, remove the 10 Commandments, for those are natural law. Now, while you may say, "great, that means that the homosexual thing is no longer binding," you would be incorrect. In the New Testament, Paul speaks to the issue and reasserts that it is still not ok. To say that homosexuality is a natural tendency, which makes it ok is just wrong. To point out that homosexual behavior has been observed in nature is fallacious. Animals are not sentient. If a pair of same-sex animals were confused and rutted upon one another, that is not evidence of a homosexual relationship. That's evidence that animals do not have higher intelligence. If they did, then there shouldn't be a problem with people and animals getting married and having sex -- but hopefully we can agree that is not really a good idea (also, it's condemned in the Bible). Further, if homosexual tendencies were ok to act on, why not then psychopathic tendencies or pedophilic tendencies? As to psychopathic tendencies, maybe we can agree that hurting other people is bad, and so that one is not ok. But pedophiles aren't necessarily hurting children. They are loving them. What's wrong with that? We don't allow it because it is disordered. Homosexuality is disordered as well, but because we respect the freedom of consenting adults to do what they want (despite the fact that God may disapprove), then it is accepted within society -- whereas psychotics and pedophiles are not. Just to be clear, I don't support any disordered tendencies, homosexuality included. That being said, I'm not trying to call people out. I do plenty of wrong stuff. God still loves me -- just like he loves all of you -- but he doesn't love my actions sometimes. But just because God continues to love me despite when I do wrong, it doesn't mean I can justify the wrong things I do. And just because I disagree with you guys, doesn't mean I stop loving you. |
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The hebrew bible doesn't say it's a crime to be gay, the catholic revisioned bible does.
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Semi-Hiatus
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paradoxicalguy wrote: First off, I love all you guys (even the ones that disagree with me). And so does God. I don't hate homosexuals and neither does God. That doesn't mean it is ok. As far as the Leviticus arguments go, that stems from a misunderstanding of how to read the Bible. I assume you are familiar with the fact that there is an Old Testament and a New Testament. Testament is another word for Covenant. A covenant is an agreement or promise, or even a contract. The Old Testament is a collection of agreements or promises that God made to His people, and that in return, His people made to Him. It was fulfilled with the coming of Jesus. As a contract, it was completed. Now we have a new contract or promise in the New Testament. It does not make the Old Testament wrong or bad, but the Levitical and Deuteronomical strictures are no longer in place. This does not, for example, remove the 10 Commandments, for those are natural law. Now, while you may say, "great, that means that the homosexual thing is no longer binding," you would be incorrect. In the New Testament, Paul speaks to the issue and reasserts that it is still not ok. To say that homosexuality is a natural tendency, which makes it ok is just wrong. To point out that homosexual behavior has been observed in nature is fallacious. Animals are not sentient. If a pair of same-sex animals were confused and rutted upon one another, that is not evidence of a homosexual relationship. That's evidence that animals do not have higher intelligence. If they did, then there shouldn't be a problem with people and animals getting married and having sex -- but hopefully we can agree that is not really a good idea (also, it's condemned in the Bible). Further, if homosexual tendencies were ok to act on, why not then psychopathic tendencies or pedophilic tendencies? As to psychopathic tendencies, maybe we can agree that hurting other people is bad, and so that one is not ok. But pedophiles aren't necessarily hurting children. They are loving them. What's wrong with that? We don't allow it because it is disordered. Homosexuality is disordered as well, but because we respect the freedom of consenting adults to do what they want (despite the fact that God may disapprove), then it is accepted within society -- whereas psychotics and pedophiles are not. Just to be clear, I don't support any disordered tendencies, homosexuality included. That being said, I'm not trying to call people out. I do plenty of wrong stuff. God still loves me -- just like he loves all of you -- but he doesn't love my actions sometimes. But just because God continues to love me despite when I do wrong, it doesn't mean I can justify the wrong things I do. And just because I disagree with you guys, doesn't mean I stop loving you. ;) Paul... Wasn't he the guy that also said women should shut up and stay at home in the kitchen? And your comparison between pedophiles and homosexuals could be considered hateful. you gloss over the concept of consenting adults and say that essentially that both pedophilia and homosexuality are the same thing in your eyes. That's fine for you. you're entitled in a free country to believe what you like. but I for one disagree with your assertion and do not think said assertion is 'okay', |
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Spoiler Alert! Click to show or hide MewMewcherry01 wrote: eclair-lumiere wrote: If you were gay That would be okay I mean cos hey I'd like you anyway Because you see If it were me I would feel free to say that I was gay. (And I am gay.) If you were queer I'd still be here year after year And I know that you Would accept me too If I told you today "Hey guess what? I'm gay!" (And I am gay) Thank goodness I wasn't the only one humming this on this thread, lol. yay! someone else gets the reference. I was worrying people wouldn't understand the joke. Didn't think Avenue Q was that popular |
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Marukaite chikyuu
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I believe that some people were born the way there are and can't really change that interest they have. what i'm saying is that it's ok to be gay but a straight guy like me has no offense to having a gay friend but i'm straight so don't go thinking your gonna get some with me.
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COPY + PASTE.
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